VN Ren'Py Memories [v0.3] [Deviloper]

[packard1928]

I think I read something on the free access of Patreon that Dev will look at that. Maybe I am wrong.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Lol, if i choose i dont want Nicole to do anything with this guy, why the fuck am i seeing a cliffhanger of if she did something with this guy or not? EP 1 was understandable since there were no choices, whats the excuse now?

You didn't understand me, there is most likely a mistake in your message:
- i dont wish to wait for 3 months to see my choices mattered, lmao my choices should show they are taking effect as i play

- i dont wish to wait for 3 months to see my choices DONT mattered, lmao my choices should show they are taking effect as i play ?

I haven't played the new update and i don't like spoilers, but here they are again, and based on them and people's reactions, another cliffhanger that no one needs. Is this the dev's way of dropping every update like this!?

I understand you, i remember his words that everything can be avoided, then why do the same thing again as in the first update!?

This can be discussed in detail when the update is in hand so that we can play different paths and choices, for now this is just a discussion based on other people's comments!

 

[robrize2169]

haven't played ch. 3 yet since it hasn't been released here yet. hope by the time it is that the issue i have read about regarding the final scene is resolved. it is pointless to have choices in the game that are not followed for future updates. however, even on the Nicole supposedly faithful path, i still think she is fucking her coworker. just on that path, she is not faithful but doesn't tell hubby about it since as the mc, i shut down the cheating path with my choices. only an idiot would willingly share a hot babe like Nicole.

 

[packard1928]

True... We can not give a contructive feedback unit it is played .. Yes just like last time, we will in all probability have a split decision on this.

 

[packard1928]

haven't played ch. 3 yet since it hasn't been released here yet. hope by the time it is that the issue i have read about regarding the final scene is resolved. it is pointless to have choices in the game that are not followed for future updates. however, even on the Nicole supposedly faithful path, i still think she is fucking her coworker. just on that path, she is not faithful but doesn't tell hubby about it since as the mc, i shut down the cheating path with my choices. only an idiot would willingly share a hot babe like Nicole.

WE see from the beginning that the MC has an itch to spice things up... So I believe somewhere being a cuckold or sharing will happen... Cheating is an alternate path to those .

 

[TonyMurray]

Cliffhangers are a common way of leaving an update. They get you looking forward to the next release so you can find out what happens, and they get you talking until then. There's nothing wrong with using them. Obviously some people will get a bit mad - but it's almost always going to be because they don't want to wait, they want the answers now... which is one intention of the cliffhanger, meaning it's doing its job.

I played an update of a game a while ago and decided I had had enough and was going to drop it, but there was a cliffhanger at the end that I want to know the answer to. So now I'm waiting for the next update, even though I've already decided to drop the game...

 

[packard1928]

Yes ! Keeping interest is extremely important in anew game. As you mention it is a double edge sword ... but I think more good than bad. It might entice more to subscribe so they can see the dev messages and other thoughts in patreon.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Cliffhangers are a common way of leaving an update. They get you looking forward to the next release so you can find out what happens, and they get you talking until then. There's nothing wrong with using them. Obviously some people will get a bit mad - but it's almost always going to be because they don't want to wait, they want the answers now... which is one intention of the cliffhanger, meaning it's doing its job.

I played an update of a game a while ago and decided I had had enough and was going to drop it, but there was a cliffhanger at the end that I want to know the answer to. So now I'm waiting for the next update, even though I've already decided to drop the game...

The cliffhanger should be on topic and not every update, otherwise it will get boring, especially since the development is already very long and there is very little information so the thread only lives a couple of weeks before and after the update!

 

[packard1928]

Yes... I think the last one was on topic but it really messed with our minds ( shoes and all ) it was a lot of fun to talk about. As for the time of developement, as you know Dev had a system problem ( we believe) . Hopefully that is all behind. As for communication... that has been addressed and I hope he takes the hint..but time will tell on that.

 

[BeastMaster59]

I can understand the disappointment on some Petreons here, it's just like going to a skin flick and not seeing any nude scenes, if that was also the case, we would want our money back.
Just my opinion.

 

[[Deviloper]]

The cliffhanger should be on topic and not every update, otherwise it will get boring, especially since the development is already very long and there is very little information so the thread only lives a couple of weeks before and after the update!

Not exactly sure which updates you're referring to, but I wouldn’t say every update ends with a cliffhanger. Especially for v0.3 assuming you’ve made certain choices there really isn’t a cliffhanger at all. The update includes over 80,000 words of content, and naturally, it had to wrap up somewhere. It might end at a point that builds a bit of curiosity, sure but if you chose to keep Nicole away from other men, then there’s no dramatic twist or 'forced situation' at the end. So let’s not jump to conclusions.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Not exactly sure which updates you're referring to, but I wouldn’t say every update ends with a cliffhanger. Especially for v0.3 assuming you’ve made certain choices there really isn’t a cliffhanger at all. The update includes over 80,000 words of content, and naturally, it had to wrap up somewhere. It might end at a point that builds a bit of curiosity, sure but if you chose to keep Nicole away from other men, then there’s no dramatic twist or 'forced situation' at the end. So let’s not jump to conclusions.

wow 80,000 ism't too much?

 

[ItsNotUs]

Not exactly sure which updates you're referring to, but I wouldn’t say every update ends with a cliffhanger. Especially for v0.3 assuming you’ve made certain choices there really isn’t a cliffhanger at all. The update includes over 80,000 words of content, and naturally, it had to wrap up somewhere. It might end at a point that builds a bit of curiosity, sure but if you chose to keep Nicole away from other men, then there’s no dramatic twist or 'forced situation' at the end. So let’s not jump to conclusions.

I dont jump on conclusions!
https://f95zone.to/threads/memories-v0-2-deviloper.229046/post-16696826
What i'm saying is that if every update ends this way, it will become uninteresting! Why leave some kind of curiosity-mystery every time?
I believe that every update should have a logical conclusion.
Personally, the very first cliffhanger was enough for me, which produced a WOW effect, each time there will be no such effect, only the negative will grow due to the long wait and unexpected ending!

Damn, especially judging by the spoilers, this update will end in a cliffhanger, i.e. there is already not the same interest in the update + already a negative attitude!
And if this happens every time, it will simply lead to disappointment!

 

[[Deviloper]]

I dont jump on conclusions!
https://f95zone.to/threads/memories-v0-2-deviloper.229046/post-16696826
What i'm saying is that if every update ends this way, it will become uninteresting! Why leave some kind of curiosity-mystery every time?
I believe that every update should have a logical conclusion.
Personally, the very first cliffhanger was enough for me, which produced a WOW effect, each time there will be no such effect, only the negative will grow due to the long wait and unexpected ending!

Damn, especially judging by the spoilers, this update will end in a cliffhanger, i.e. there is already not the same interest in the update + already a negative attitude!
And if this happens every time, it will simply lead to disappointment!

As you all know, the very first version ended with a cliffhanger no arguments there. But v0.15 didn’t have a cliffhanger at all, and I’d say the same about v0.2. I’m not trying to create a big “WOW” moment at the end of every update. What I am trying to do is leave a hint something like: “Okay, this event just happened, so the next update will probably focus on this.” That’s all. For example, the end of v0.15 suggested there’d be a restaurant event, and that’s exactly where v0.2 picked up. Then in v0.2, Nicole mentioned her mom was coming and we followed through with that. So I’m not sure how these count as true cliffhangers. They’re just natural transitions that give you a sense of where the story is headed.

 

[[Deviloper]]

Finally, I just want to say to everyone that I hope you enjoy the update when you play it. As I mentioned in the discussions on Patreon, I can’t satisfy everyone’s expectations 100%, but if you’ve enjoyed the game overall, that’s a positive thing for me. Thank you for your support.

 

[ItsNotUs]

As you all know, the very first version ended with a cliffhanger no arguments there. But v0.15 didn’t have a cliffhanger at all, and I’d say the same about v0.2. I’m not trying to create a big “WOW” moment at the end of every update. What I am trying to do is leave a hint something like: “Okay, this event just happened, so the next update will probably focus on this.” That’s all. For example, the end of v0.15 suggested there’d be a restaurant event, and that’s exactly where v0.2 picked up. Then in v0.2, Nicole mentioned her mom was coming and we followed through with that. So I’m not sure how these count as true cliffhangers. They’re just natural transitions that give you a sense of where the story is headed.

There are no questions about the v0.15 restaurant, there are questions about the v0.2 mother, the sex scene was interrupted, "oh, my mother is calling", the end - how should this be interesting? It would be better to finish the sex scene and then mother call with a hint that she will come, for example.
About new update we can talk only when we can play it!

 

[Radnos Salazar]

As you all know, the very first version ended with a cliffhanger no arguments there. But v0.15 didn’t have a cliffhanger at all, and I’d say the same about v0.2. I’m not trying to create a big “WOW” moment at the end of every update. What I am trying to do is leave a hint something like: “Okay, this event just happened, so the next update will probably focus on this.” That’s all. For example, the end of v0.15 suggested there’d be a restaurant event, and that’s exactly where v0.2 picked up. Then in v0.2, Nicole mentioned her mom was coming and we followed through with that. So I’m not sure how these count as true cliffhangers. They’re just natural transitions that give you a sense of where the story is headed.

Honestly, this is a little disingenuous, 0.15 was not actually a whole update at all, just the 2nd update broken into 2 parts. You can say 0.2 did not end in a cliffhanger, but like my mate ItsNotUs said, there was no satisfying conclusion to 0.2 as well, it also ended with a interruption to what could have been the first true sex scene between the protagonists.
0.1 ended with a cliffhanger, and 3 updates in, if 0.3 is going to end like people are saying, that we are left to guess if nicole did something with that office guy or not, then this is a cliffhanger ending, it doesnt matter if you wish to acknowledge it that way or not.
So 3 out of 2 updates ends with a cliffhanger and 1 with an interruption. You always start mentioning you can't satisfy 100% of people whenever anyone suggests something went wrong, its not about satisfying 100% of people, with each of your update ending in uncertainty is getting really annoying, i mean no offense here, and now we would have to wait 3-4 months to see that if people indeed choose nicole to avoid NTR, then she would not have done anything with that office guy. This hurts the progression and experience of players.
A player having made all the choices right for nicole to avoid NTR and 0.3 ending with a situation that puts the player guessing whether nicole did something with that other guy or not is absolutely frustrating, yes the choices are definitely taking effect, but scenes like this are not helping non ntr playthroughs at all, they are absolutely hurting them. Idk if you will see this message or not, since i mostly get ignored on the thread, but if you do, i hope you take this as what it is, a honest criticism which majority people who are in this for the narrative share. And hopefully you put out an update correcting these errors.
These things usually wont matter when the game is 100% completed since no one would have to wait to see what happens, but this is hampering the non NTR playthrough experience a lot during development, and whenever anyone mentions this, you say you can satisfy 100% players.....it just sad

Someone posted this image here, here as well you mention you cannot please everyone, its not about pleasing everyone.... GetOutOfMyLab was absolutely correct here

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Dang people mad about some forced scenes or things not making sense, and cliffhangers, etc. ... these people clearly didn't play the earlier versions cause their is forced thoughts and scenes too, like us cumming early from cuck thoughts or thoughts in club.

The scene above is still the only change I want, the forced cum early scene to be slightly changed. We shouldn't be thinking cuck thoughts, cause it breaks logic with some things in future, and is not the way I want to play.

I enjoy this game, but that scene always ruins it for me.

That cuck thoughts thing has been discussed a million times, that is just something which is not going to change, developer has mentioned this, and said on the non ntr paths that thinking will automatically go away.
And though that is a valid critique, its not a point of criticism right now, first update had 0 meaningful choices, but this update has, and thats the major issue when such choices still lead to useless and unnecessary cliffhangers

 

[Eleanorduval]

Finally, I just want to say to everyone that I hope you enjoy the update when you play it. As I mentioned in the discussions on Patreon, I can’t satisfy everyone’s expectations 100%, but if you’ve enjoyed the game overall, that’s a positive thing for me. Thank you for your support.

Bro don’t take it wrong nobody asking u to satisfy everyone.We just ask u to listen to people feedback.U are making a game for all people not just a category.I understand angry people.I think they are fools

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm still slightly hungover, so I might be missing some stuff here, but let's see if I've got this right:

People don't want endings that leave you wanting more and get you excited for the next update, instead they want everything wrapped up in a nice little bow, and also for there to never be any interruptions to sex scenes (presumably because that's no allowed in some secret dev handbook or something?). And people want to complain about how things play out, and the results of choices they do or do not make, even though they've not yet played to find out what those choices are, which they will pick, and how indeed the game will therefore play out.

Did I miss anything? Personally, I can't wait to play the update, and comment on what actually happens, not what I think might happen based on what I've pieced together from comments by other people who may have made different choices to mine.