Ren'Py Completed Midnight Paradise [v1.0f Extra] [Lewdlab]

[armion82]

I know people aren't too keen on Unity over Ren'py for this sort of game and i get it, i'm not a huge fan either but i understand it, there are things that you can do in Unity that are more difficult to do in Ren'py, sure if you're sticking to a VN style Ren'py is a "better" choice but i'm willing to give Doc Sin some time to get his head around Unity, he made the decision to switch for a reasons and I want to know what features that are planned warranted this, i'm more intrigued than pissed with him TBH.

He have plenty of time.Around 1 year since we know MP will be on Unity.If that time is not enough to find good coders why insist to use it?

 

[Volta]

He have plenty of time.Around 1 year since we know MP will be on Unity.If that time is not enough to find good coders why insist to use it?

There is plenty of difference between trying it yourself or with a closed beta group and then the first public release, things like OS, screen resolution, different hardware setups and volumes of Ram available in particular will vary far more than any beta group will let you test for, of course there will be hiccups, if they are still common in version 0.5 or 0.6, then i'd have to start to wonder about the dev choice of going unity but in the first two or three updates, pretty much to be expected, hell i've played buggier AAA games. Gotta remember this is still a "two men and a shed" sort of operation, most adult games outside of japan tend to be.

 

[armion82]

There is plenty of difference between trying it yourself or with a closed beta group and then the first public release, things like OS, screen resolution, different hardware setups and volumes of Ram available in particular will vary far more than any beta group will let you test for, of course there will be hiccups, if they are still common in version 0.5 or 0.6, then i'd have to start to wonder about the dev choice of going unity but in the first two or three updates, pretty much to be expected, hell i've played buggier AAA games. Gotta remember this is still a "two men and a shed" sort of operation, most adult games outside of japan tend to be.

Don't forget that instead of October 2018 we get 0.1 this year.So that was 3 updates time.No to mention that 0.2 should be in 2018 too.
I can understand 1-2 months delay but for more than 7 months what we get is a complete failure.

 

[Volta]

Don't forget that instead of October 2018 we get 0.1 this year.So that was 3 updates time.No to mention that 0.2 should be in 2018 too.
I can understand 1-2 months delay but for more than 7 months what we get is a complete failure.

Time is no substitute for the mass test that is a 0.1, the three months your talking about could be three years, it would make no difference, initial releases will always throw bugs due to the nature of the "test group" being exponentially larger than a beta group could be, unless of course your using a system you've already "run in" and got familiar with.

Also calling it a "complete failure" isn't exactly fair, many of the elements of the game, renders in particular are are top notch, the only part that i would consider a problem are the bugs, which all relate back to the change over to unity, we can't expect it to be the same as Ren'py, unity is far more complicated, i know i prefer Ren'py for VN's as do a lot of people but really, give it a chance, saying it's a "complete failure" on 0.2 is just too soon to call it.

 

[armion82]

Time is no substitute for the mass test that is a 0.1, the three months your talking about could be three years, it would make no difference, initial releases will always throw bugs due to the nature of the "test group" being exponentially larger than a beta group could be, unless of course your using a system you've already "run in" and got familiar with.

Also calling it a "complete failure" isn't exactly fair, many of the elements of the game, renders in particular are are top notch, the only part that i would consider a problem are the bugs, which all relate back to the change over to unity, we can't expect it to be the same as Ren'py, unity is far more complicated, i know i prefer Ren'py for VN's as do a lot of people but really, give it a chance, saying it's a "complete failure" on 0.2 is just too soon to call it.

Well if even the dev said who are we to say otherwise.
I'm Ok with giving more time but let's be honest they don't stop Patreon during all the months that should learn how to use the engine.I'm sorry but for that kind of money I realy expect much more than the bare minimum.

 

[Volta]

Well if even the dev said who are we to say otherwise.
I'm Ok with giving more time but let's be honest they don't stop Patreon during all the months that should learn how to use the engine.I'm sorry but for that kind of money I realy expect much more than the bare minimum.

I wouldn't call it the bare minimum but be real, we aren't all patrons here, we aren't paying for it, it's not our expectations that matter, if he's keeping his patrons happy fair play to him. I do understand the whole not switching to "per update" thing while in pre-production thing would be annoying but patrons can back out at any time, i expect many did but if this is Lewdlab's main revenue stream then why wouldn't he keep the status quo, he's still working if we can see it or not and if the patrons are ok with that, while it wouldn't work for me, really that is up to them.

I get expectations are high after DoD, mine were and are high too, come back in a few updates when the kinks have been worked out.

 

[armion82]

I wouldn't call it the bare minimum but be real, we aren't all patrons here, we aren't paying for it, it's not our expectations that matter, if he's keeping his patrons happy fair play to him. I do understand the whole not switching to "per update" thing while in pre-production thing would be annoying but patrons can back out at any time, i expect many did but if this is Lewdlab's main revenue stream then why wouldn't he keep the status quo, he's still working if we can see it or not and if the patrons are ok with that, while it wouldn't work for me, really that is up to them.

I get expectations are high after DoD, mine were and are high too, come back in a few updates when the kinks have been worked out.

Nah the problem is that we still go with the same premise as DOD.Just without the spell and all mystics but with even worst MC,with twin brother and father as obstacles.He realy should try something completely new.
Oh well we will see how he will menage not to fell in the trap most sandbox games have felt-the unnecessary grind.
I hope they realy starts to deliver.Well we know that 0.3 will be what 0.2 should be,so let's hope at least 0.4 will bring something good.And please don't make it another half year for 2 or even 3 updates,especialy this size.

 

[Volta]

Nah the problem is that we still go with the same premise as DOD.Just without the spell and all mystics but with even worst MC,with twin brother and father as obstacles.He realy should try something completely new.
Oh well we will see how he will menage not to fell in the trap most sandbox games have felt-the unnecessary grind.
I hope they realy starts to deliver.Well we know that 0.3 will be what 0.2 should be,so let's hope at least 0.4 will bring something good.And please don't make it another half year for 2 or even 3 updates,especialy this size.

I get you about time taken vs update size thing but i actually like the new MC , better than the faceless mook from so many games, but then i just like my characters to have names and personalities, even if the are "bad" ones. As for something completely new, if i'm correct originally his second game wasn't going to be an incest game, then he realised that was his patrons reason for supporting him and changed course(i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i read something to that effect in a dev post).

 

[Aldnoah Zero]

I wouldn't call it the bare minimum but be real, we aren't all patrons here, we aren't paying for it, it's not our expectations that matter, if he's keeping his patrons happy fair play to him. I do understand the whole not switching to "per update" thing while in pre-production thing would be annoying but patrons can back out at any time, i expect many did but if this is Lewdlab's main revenue stream then why wouldn't he keep the status quo, he's still working if we can see it or not and if the patrons are ok with that, while it wouldn't work for me, really that is up to them.

I get expectations are high after DoD, mine were and are high too, come back in a few updates when the kinks have been worked out.

But that's the biggest problem 99.9%, do not complain on official pages!
Many come to F95 to complain with other log, questions, bugs and game play are answered more promptly here (in most cases)
Even constructive criticism is more honest too.
Patreon turned into a bubble, where you only get compliments (not that devs do not deserve it)
This mentality that everyone is happy should not be correct, as you know who, more than five months and still asks two more to rest .. (even the most fanatic would be happy?!)
Of course we will always have fans: It's ready when it's ready....and you shut your mouth ,you do not pay you have no right to say ... (I think the wrong attitude, worse said here in the forum)
Dr Sin, has sinned by two drastic changes .. style of story (he is very good with supernatural stories and mystery)
The engine .. (Unity is still very new and bugs are common with every update)

And being a fan of lewdlab as a first impression.... I was somewhat disappointed (that the game still has room for improvement, no doubt)

Yes ,many forget that here serves as test and feedback of most games .. (with the blessing of several devs)

Moods have heated lately, no doubt, and some directed to other devs in a slightly unfair way.
In the end all this fight, in time ends in oblivion ..

 

[goobdoob]

Another fallacy, which here is pirate den (certainly any dev who claims to be harmed, promptly his game will be removed by the admin)
Who wants a judicial fight here, where do you know you're going to lose ?!
Moods have heated lately, no doubt, and some directed to other devs in a slightly unfair way.
In the end all this fight, in time ends in oblivion ..

What? This IS a pirate site. Games don't get removed because a dev complains about them being on here.

 

[Aldnoah Zero]

What? This IS a pirate site. Games don't get removed because a dev complains about them being on here.

Seriously?, I remember seeing occasions where 3Dporn magazines were withdrawn, and mods .. (dev .. complaining about right in the forum)
Ok if I'm wrong, sorry my fault ..(I wrote back what I wrote)
But the part that has collaboration and agreement of developers here is right !! (of course every rule has exceptions)
I remembered one time, that I complained about patreon in Milfy City (the first time they dropped games with inces) and I was asked to withdraw the comment by a user said to be part of the team ,and that patreon was being complacent with them .. (so much that they returned)

 

[goobdoob]

Seriously?, I remember seeing occasions where 3Dporn magazines were withdrawn, and mods .. (dev .. complaining about right in the forum)
Ok if I'm wrong, sorry my fault ..(I wrote back what I wrote)
But the part that has collaboration and agreement of developers here is right !! (of course every rule has exceptions)
I remembered one time, that I complained about patreon in Milf City (the first time they dropped games with inces) and I was asked to withdraw the comment by a user said to be part of the team ,and that patreon was being complacent with them .. (so much that they returned)

As long as you follow the rules here: https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2019-02-04.5589/ , you can say whatever you want. Anything that was taken down probably violated the rules.

Devs can request stuff get removed, but it won't be, unless it breaks the rules. Devs are welcome here, as long as they, you guessed it, follow the rules.

Devs who aren't blinded by the fact that we're a bunch of dirty pirates, and engage with us, typically find that F95zone is a great advertisement, and see their patronage go up as people here like their stuff and become patrons.

 

[Meduzko]

I won't play this game until like 0.4 version comes out without bugs.
ALso could someone please be kind and share the results of 0.3 poll? Thanks in advance

 

[King Monkey Mon]

Don't forget that instead of October 2018 we get 0.1 this year.So that was 3 updates time.No to mention that 0.2 should be in 2018 too.
I can understand 1-2 months delay but for more than 7 months what we get is a complete failure.

not every chicken lays more then one golden egg but this is game is an embarrassment

1. far less attractive models compared to the first game
2. the main character is an absolute douche
3. the story isnt that new as in its been repeated hundreds of times in other games with the same tropes
4. switching to unity when he has no experience in it and had almost a year to prepare the engine which really shouldve been taken care first before the text and scenes

 

[armion82]

not every chicken lays more then one golden egg but this is game is an embarrassment

1. far less attractive models compared to the first game
2. the main character is an absolute douche
3. the story isnt that new as in its been repeated hundreds of times in other games with the same tropes
4. switching to unity when he has no experience in it and had almost a year to prepare the engine which really shouldve been taken care first before the text and scenes

I give him 3 more updates.BTW no idea why after the good working 0.1,0.2 is a complete mess for me.
Is it because of the Unity.I have 2 other games that I stop playing because of the massive problems since jan 2018-The Twist and Man of The House.Both on Unity.Surprisingly I don't have problems with Something Unlimited,Big Brother,Glamour and Lucky Mark.

 

[asdafasdfda]

Are old saves no longer working? Everytime I try to proceed, I for some reason repeat the meeting Logan in the kitchen scene, then I get the flashback with the two girls during his uni time, and as soon as the sex scene starts I get the room selection screen and get stuck. I also can't open the menu at all, during any point.

 

[tramtoriana54]

yeah the saves dont work for me either

 

[killu10]

What's new in 0.2 ?? I played just 0.1.1 and dont know if its worth it to play or wait for next update.

 

[Deleted member 42]

What's new in 0.2 ?? I played just 0.1.1 and dont know if its worth it to play or wait for next update.

not much so wait for 0.5

 

[Vojvoda]

What's new in 0.2 ?? I played just 0.1.1 and dont know if its worth it to play or wait for next update.

new ? only bugs !