techguy00

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would be nice if the edit relationship in the prefs section actually worked in the game, can't believe these issues are not fixed already
What do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
Well I set up the relationships as StepSon and StepBro to all the women and Son to the Father, in the game I still see landlady, tenant and roomate throughout - these should be reflection the new choices made on the edit relationships choice
You're right. There are lot of different possibles relation words used in MP. It would have been tedious and even complicated.

In the end, the relationship system is just a simple way to avoid having to inform people (especially patrons) that a incest patch exists. So in reality, this system only handles correctly the mother/son/sister possibility (and its counterpart landlady/tenant).
This is a really poor way to handle this. It's not hard at all to handle this at all. Either make it a drop down if you want to restrict it like it is or make it variable if you let the player type anything. You SHOULD NEVER let the player type anything they want if it only works with certain terms, this is an extremely poor coding. It's confusing to your players as it gives a false sense of how this works and it really contrasts with how clever the photo relationship substitution idea is and the otherwise high quality involved. It's unlikely the developer will go back and fix this so late, but it's a real shame it was handled like this... IMO it's always better to let the player to put enter whatever they want and just make it a variable in the code. If the player wants to say the landlady is 'gorilla_woman' power to them lol.
 
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LaloSalamanca

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This is a really poor way to handle this. It's not hard at all to handle this at all. Either make it a drop down if you want to restrict it like it is or make it variable if you let the player type anything. You SHOULD NEVER let the player type anything they want if it only works with certain terms, this is an extremely poor coding. It's confusing to your players as it gives a false sense of how this works and it really contrasts with how clever the photo relationship substitution idea is and the otherwise high quality involved. It's unlikely the developer will go back and fix this so late, but it's a real shame it was handled like this... IMO it's always better to let the player to put enter whatever they want and just make it a variable in the code. If the player wants to say the landlady is 'gorilla_woman' power to them lol.
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Bibifoc

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This is a really poor way to handle this. It's not hard at all to handle this at all. Either make it a drop down if you want to restrict it like it is or make it variable if you let the player type anything. You SHOULD NEVER let the player type anything they want if it only works with certain terms, this is an extremely poor coding. It's confusing to your players as it gives a false sense of how this works and it really contrasts with how clever the photo relationship substitution idea is and the otherwise high quality involved. It's unlikely the developer will go back and fix this so late, but it's a real shame it was handled like this... IMO it's always better to let the player to put enter whatever they want and just make it a variable in the code. If the player wants to say the landlady is 'gorilla_woman' power to them lol.
It can be disturbing for sure but:
- There are 32 words to change. None would want to change all these words at the start of a game.
- You can't let people choose what they want for all words. For example, mom/mommy/mother. All these 3 words are replaced with landlady. You can't really let the player do a reverse customization from 1 word.
- You can't use a drop down in the vanilla game. Probably doable with an external patch.

In the end, this system is just set up to deal with the censor. The game isn't really planned to be played with another setup than the "one". Lots of sentences doesn't really make sense with the "landlady" setting.
 
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techguy00

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It can be disturbing for sure but:
- There are 32 words to change. None would want to change all these words at the start of a game.
- You can't let people choose what they want for all words. For example, mom/mommy/mother. All these 3 words are replaced with landlady. You can't really let the player do a reverse customization from 1 word.
- You can't use a drop down in the vanilla game. Probably doable with an external patch.

In the end, this system is just set up to deal with the censor. The game isn't really planned to be played with another setup than the "one". Lots of sentences doesn't really make sense with the "landlady" setting.
WTH are you talking about 32 words? I'm just talking about the existing 'Edit Relationships' interface that already exists... It edits the relationship titles for both ways for 6 characters so that's 12 at my count, not where where you're getting 32... Who was bringing up name variations. Stop making dumb excuses for a lazy, half assed, implementation, that could be fixed in an afternoon...
 
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Bibifoc

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WTH are you talking about 32 words? I'm just talking about the existing 'Edit Relationships' interface that already exists... It edits the relationship titles for both ways for 6 characters so that's 12 at my count, not where where you're getting 32... Who was bringing up name variations. Stop making dumb excuses for a lazy, half assed, implementation, that could be fixed in an afternoon...
A pleasure to discuss with you :oops:
There are 32 words (some of them are probably useless) in the relationship dictionary. You change main words (maybe 12 like you said) and under the hood other ones are changed.

So if you set the relation with Joyce to mother or mom or mommy, in the dictionary:
mother = mother
mom = mom
mommy = mommy

if you set landlady:
mother = landlady
mom = landlady
mommy = landlady

So if you use what is really plan (mother thing), you have all the variations in dialogs (mother/mommy/mom/...). If not you have landlady everywhere.
 

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A pleasure to discuss with you :oops:
There are 32 words (some of them are probably useless) in the relationship dictionary. You change main words (maybe 12 like you said) and under the hood other ones are changed.

So if you set the relation with Joyce to mother or mom or mommy, in the dictionary:
mother = mother
mom = mom
mommy = mommy

if you set landlady:
mother = landlady
mom = landlady
mommy = landlady

So if you use what is really plan (mother thing), you have all the variations in dialogs (mother/mommy/mom/...). If not you have landlady everywhere.
If you are commenting here then you must be done with AWAM task ;) right.
 
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Just wondering, because everyone knows the dev may take another year to update if he wants to, but would he probably update during a weekend, or would he drop the update during the week?
 

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "scripts/locations/home.rpyc", line 672, in script
File "E:\WUDownloadCache\MidnightParadise-0.24-pc-elite\renpy\ast.py", line 1081, in execute
values = apply_arguments(self.parameters, renpy.store._args, renpy.store._kwargs)
File "E:\WUDownloadCache\MidnightParadise-0.24-pc-elite\renpy\ast.py", line 292, in apply_arguments
raise Exception("Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present")
Exception: Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present

Windows-10-10.0.19042 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805
Midnight Paradise 0.24
Wed May 1 10:38:01 2024
 

SonsOfLiberty

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "scripts/locations/home.rpyc", line 672, in script
File "E:\WUDownloadCache\MidnightParadise-0.24-pc-elite\renpy\ast.py", line 1081, in execute
values = apply_arguments(self.parameters, renpy.store._args, renpy.store._kwargs)
File "E:\WUDownloadCache\MidnightParadise-0.24-pc-elite\renpy\ast.py", line 292, in apply_arguments
raise Exception("Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present")
Exception: Arguments supplied, but parameter list not present

Windows-10-10.0.19042 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805
Midnight Paradise 0.24
Wed May 1 10:38:01 2024
What to do anyone?
Looks like you are trying to run it from some cached location.

Put on your drive root or desktop and extract it and try.
 
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