Unity Midnight Sin [v0.5.2] [Faerin]

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xapican

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Nice update I loved it ! 2 minor things, I wasn't able to acces Madelaines and Anabelles room when the quest was active from the map, was that planned ?
and after saving at the end (my room) it took me to the basment with Anabelle working out.
Maybe a hint with the Toiletpaper would be nice? there is a hint but I think it is a bit vague, (on the other hand I know that dev enjoys when we look around and check things out)
Oh loved the cross reference to Mystwood manor with the Art Teacher great job !
 
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Sycho said:
Not to mention, there is the original mapping file which is what the "patched" version replaces.
Code: 
  <NPCMappings>
    <!-- Ashley -->
    <NPCMapping>
      <Label>[2_NAME]</Label>
      <!-- Her name is: -->
      <Text>Ashley</Text>
    </NPCMapping>
    <NPCMapping>
      <Label>[2_HER]</Label>
      <!-- I am to her: -->
      <Text>roommate</Text>
    </NPCMapping>
    <NPCMapping>
      <Label>[2_ME]</Label>
      <!-- And she is to me: -->
      <Text>roommate</Text>
Which blows the whole "This is purposedly BY DESIGN to support incest!" theory out the water.
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No it doesn't. That original mapping file accommodates the modification of relationships for the characters Ashley, Veronica and Claire. The game was designed, with intent, to have the ability to change the relationships, further shown by the code within the file:

Code: 
<!--
  This file contains the names and roles of all NPC's.
  To change a name or role, just edit the part between <text> &</Text>, do not edit any other parts!
  -->
The game supports changing relationships, with no defined exclusions. If what you're failing to argue is true, then why is the code even there? So people can change relationships to "Boss" and "Business Associate"? Yeah, that's believable.

He must've missed a spot when scrubbing away the incest, because there's also this:
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Or the game's description on loverslab, which was posted by Faerin himself in 2017:

Game description


In this game you will play as a young adult, who is living together with his attractive (step)mother and 2 hot (step)sisters, in a city filled with even more gorgeous women!
Each NPC has their own storyline and you get to decide when and where you would like to explore and which girl you want to pursue. Every update will expand on existing storylines, but also on adding new locations, girls, jobs, events, etc.
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The intent is pretty damn obvious. You're arguing a lie.
 
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User4862 said:
No it doesn't. That original mapping file accommodates the modification of relationships for the characters Ashley, Veronica and Claire. The game was designed, with intent, to have the ability to change the relationships, further shown by the code within the file:

Code: 
<!--
  This file contains the names and roles of all NPC's.
  To change a name or role, just edit the part between <text> &</Text>, do not edit any other parts!
  -->
The game supports changing relationships, with no defined exclusions. If what you're failing to argue is true, then why is the code even there? So people can change relationships to "Boss" and "Business Associate"? Yeah, that's believable.

He must've missed a spot when scrubbing away the incest, because there's also this:
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Or the game's description on loverslab, which was posted by Faerin himself in 2017:



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The intent is pretty damn obvious. You're arguing a lie.
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Ok, let's say you're right, what does it change ? what is the purpose of all this argument ? and on top of that on a totally different game thread , what is it what you want to achieve?
I don't know, can you please enlighten me? why do you presure somebody of the "developer team" to make a statement,
You can go into the MoTH thread and read, what happend to the game and why it is easy,
Everyone who has followed Faerins development and his Games from the beginning knows what happend
As well as you are very well aware about the Patreon conditions for NSFW games
Edit: just read your interactions with all the Faerin staff, maybe it was you who reported the game back in 2017 ?
 
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TheDevian said:
Not really yet, per say, but he is related to 3 of the 6 main women so far by blood, and another one is technically his step mother, or was. How that is going to change for the unpatched one, I have no idea yet.
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The incest tag should be removed from this game. The rest of the comment explains why.

When incest pervs are looking for incest games, Midnight Sin is absolutely NOT what we're looking for because incest is completely devoid of substance in this game. Slapping the tag here is a problem if the tag's purpose is to help find actual incest games instead of being a hollow decoration slapped haphazardly on any game where incest could pedantically be said can be technically found or added via a cheap mod. Using tags like this undermines the usefulness of F95's tag system.

I played MotH, MM and MS and while the first game still had some incest kinks the latter two only have what is known as retconned incest (AKA fake/cheap/garbage incest).

Retconned incest is best recognized in games whose screenplay is actually written without the incest taboo to avoid any risks with Patreon/Steam/etc. but the game can be easily modded to arbitrarily rename character relations/appellatives. So you can have these characters call each other brother/sister/mother/etc. even though the screenplay doesn't support in any way the taboo so the characters go about their business as if they're strangers that awkwardly call each other brother/sister/mother/etc. for some insane reason. Many such games also have a screenplay centered on an incest-suggestive context (e.g. everyone lives in the same house and kind of looks like a family) but this doesn't bring the fetish to life because the screenplay is written as if this VERY heavy taboo does not apply. It's like watching porn in a foreign language and slapping on subtitles where they call each other brother/sister/mother. It's garbage.

Retconned incest applies to any games where you could only pedantically say that incest is present, regardless of whether or not a mod is required to make incest technically happen. The kind of incest where the part of screenplay that establishes X and Y are related is marginal and if you cut it out the rest still easily makes sense as if X and Y are not related.

Retconned incest exists to draw suckers in. In case you're new to the western porn game landscape know these games only became a BIG thing since ~2015 when Patreon made financing porn games much easier than before. Incest games quickly stood out BIG TIME and this drew in devs looking for easy money which led to the number & variety of incest games explode and for a while everything was great. But the party came to an abrupt halt in 2018 when Patreon started policing fantasies on the platform and they banned incest. This created a rift between paying patreons and developers because most of the former were primarily there for the very hot incest taboo while most of the latter were primarily there for easy money. Some devs heroically resisted censorship and found ways to continue making great incest games at great pains and risks. However, most devs just became Patreon whores and slavishly censored themselves to stay clear of the fantasy police. But "in for a penny, in for a pound" so most devs did everything they could to pretend incest is still central to their games to minimize the loss of paying patreons. Retconned incest is part of that pretending and it's been a problem ever since.
 
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Cooling Prob said:
Seems I have to start all over again?
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If you didn't save your save folder where else before deleting the previous version yes, My recomendation is that you play this game from start and make a save at the end then export/ move your save folder out of the game and delete the rest,
next Update you only paste that save folder into the game where the exe is and you can continue.
Edit: here it is more compresible explained.
S3pHiroTh said:
Frequently Asked Question (FAQ)

Before reading the questions, I want to share some suggestions first:
  • Please use latest
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    or
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    version to extract the game
  • Don't extract the new game version over the old one. Please always create a new folder to avoid any problem
  • Don't create path too long, Windows has some issues with long paths
  • If you have any problems with the game please share your game logs so we should understand your problem better
  • If you are using any mods with the game, please don't ask us any support (Sycho, larry5168, S3pHiroTh, ZenGarden are here for support you for any problem you have with a clean game), but please be kind... arrogant or pretending people aren't welcome here.

Q. Where are my saves?
A. The saves are in saves folder, in the game path like you can see in the picture below.

View attachment 2538730

Q. How can I transfer my saves from the old game version to the new one?
A. You have to copy saves folder from your old game path to the new one.

Q. Where do I find my game logs?
A. You can find your game logs into this path: %UserProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\Faerin Games\Midnight Sin
Once you have found Player.log file, please zip it and upload it here with the description of your problem. Please don't copy its file content and upload it here, because it is unreadble.

Q. I can't play the game in window mode with an ultra-wide monitor, how can I fix this?
A. As a workaround you can try this solution. Open the game once so it will generare some game files then close it. Go to the game path, then in saves folder, then edit the file settings.ini with notepad and change those values:
"Fullscreen": from true to false
"Resolution": from "2560 x 1440" to "what resolution you want, remember to use a standard one" also remember that is written width space x space height

Q. What is the difference between extra and basic versions?
A. The extra version has more videos or images during events for now.
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manneychin said:
The incest tag should be removed from this game. The rest of the comment explains why.

When incest pervs are looking for incest games, Midnight Sin is absolutely NOT what we're looking for because incest is completely devoid of substance in this game. Slapping the tag here is a problem if the tag's purpose is to help find actual incest games instead of being a hollow decoration slapped haphazardly on any game where incest could pedantically be said can be technically found or added via a cheap mod. Using tags like this undermines the usefulness of F95's tag system.

I played MotH, MM and MS and while the first game still had some incest kinks the latter two only have what is known as retconned incest (AKA fake/cheap/garbage incest).

Retconned incest is best recognized in games whose screenplay is actually written without the incest taboo to avoid any risks with Patreon/Steam/etc. but the game can be easily modded to arbitrarily rename character relations/appellatives. So you can have these characters call each other brother/sister/mother/etc. even though the screenplay doesn't support in any way the taboo so the characters go about their business as if they're strangers that awkwardly call each other brother/sister/mother/etc. for some insane reason. Many such games also have a screenplay centered on an incest-suggestive context (e.g. everyone lives in the same house and kind of looks like a family) but this doesn't bring the fetish to life because the screenplay is written as if this VERY heavy taboo does not apply. It's like watching porn in a foreign language and slapping on subtitles where they call each other brother/sister/mother. It's garbage.

Retconned incest applies to any games where you could only pedantically say that incest is present, regardless of whether or not a mod is required to make incest technically happen. The kind of incest where the part of screenplay that establishes X and Y are related is marginal and if you cut it out the rest still easily makes sense as if X and Y are not related.

Retconned incest exists to draw suckers in. In case you're new to the western porn game landscape know these games only became a BIG thing since ~2015 when Patreon made financing porn games much easier than before. Incest games quickly stood out BIG TIME and this drew in devs looking for easy money which led to the number & variety of incest games explode and for a while everything was great. But the party came to an abrupt halt in 2018 when Patreon started policing fantasies on the platform and they banned incest. This created a rift between paying patreons and developers because most of the former were primarily there for the very hot incest taboo while most of the latter were primarily there for easy money. Some devs heroically resisted censorship and found ways to continue making great incest games at great pains and risks. However, most devs just became Patreon whores and slavishly censored themselves to stay clear of the fantasy police. But "in for a penny, in for a pound" so most devs did everything they could to pretend incest is still central to their games to minimize the loss of paying patreons. Retconned incest is part of that pretending and it's been a problem ever since.
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I will disagree on a couple of your points.

First, even if you call it "retconned incest", I would argue that many of these games are written with family relations in mind and then, correctly called out by you, tamed down so certain ways of income can be supported. Which might leave them in a limbo - you talk about how some interactions do not feel like family, only the general set up is there, while I would argue that certain set ups do not really make sense with the "unpatched" version, e. g. MotH (which you also don't argue to be an example) or MWM (which you do argue, but I would say that the original relationships do not make sense). Either way I would argue that many interpersonal relationships in some games do not represent how non-family would treat each other. It will of course always depend on the game. And as you say, also for me the kink isn't satisfied if the taboo isn't there, I played an (otherwise enjoyable) game where MC had a relationship with his sister - undoubtedly sister - but nobody really cared because society has moved on or suchlike. Doesn't work, regardless of the "family depiction".

However I will also disagree that this is done to "draw suckers in". I would guess the most common situation is not somebody has a game and wants to make more money, so slap some incest relations haphazardly onto the game, but a game that is toned down as much as necessary to make avenues of payment possible - it's either not making the incest solution unavoidable or not having enough money to make the game at all. And not every dev is cut out to be one of your "heroes" to use uncommon alternatives and risk tons of money. Calling those who just want to make a game without having to fight the system, and then do what they can within these boundaries "patreon whores" is pretty strong and in my opinion also pretty wrong.

As for the tag system - which is reworked because it has many flaws but I doubt this one can really be addressed - it is not exclusively to find games with your kinks, but also to be able to avoid kinks which disgust you. And as much as some random people just with a moniker "sister and brother" do not satisfy those looking for incest, just calling them "landlady and tenant" will not put those people at ease when it is obvious that they are not. Same reason why some kinks are tagged even though they only happen once, in the background, without involving the MC - those who want this kink won't enjoy the game, but those who despise it can steer clear.
 
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Thermophob said:
Not really, she is 45 and MC is 36, so she cant be MC's mother even theoretically.
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She is the second wife of his father, or the first wife and MC mother was never married, the game leaves us here a lot of room for speculations.
which is fine by me (I don't have the incest kink although)
 
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xapican said:
She is the second wife of his father, or the first wife and MC mother was never married, the game leaves us here a lot of room for speculations.
which is fine by me (I don't have the incest kink although)
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By the story released here, she is second wife of MC's father, there is moment when Madeline talks about her late husband not mentioning previous wife and son (MC). Girls are MC's paternal half-sisters.
 
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Thermophob said:
Girls are MC's paternal half-sisters.
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Yes that was what I was implying, about that his father married a second time, afaik, It was not said clearly, only that the father left MC mom and married Madeleine, I didn't read that they MC s mom and father were married but I could have overseen some dialoges or don't recall them correctly now.
 
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