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Oh I like how the new corruption story is going on !!!
Really aDDont is building an interesting plot.
Bravo.
Really aDDont is building an interesting plot.
Bravo.
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Yep. Stare into the abyss... to know thyself!
What if vanila route will be hot?
A depraved wife fucking the shit out of you, because she is feeling horny and you didn't pay much attention to her later. And if it's still not enough she use toys, ropes and learn how to get you hard for her again.
I've never known why some NTR games has the option to stay loyal if it leads straight to the ending. It's not a loyal route, it's no route at all. Just game over.
So I have no intention making something like this)
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There's actually a lot of things that could make a non-NTR/NTRS route hot. Like you mentioned, ropes and toys (not really my thing), but also exhibitionism/public sex, water sports, spanking, etc. I'd totally play that route if it had stuff like that. It's when it's actual vanilla (missionary sex, doggy sex, anal sex -> done)... that's when those sorts of routes are boring.What if vanila route will be hot?
A depraved wife fucking the shit out of you, because she is feeling horny and you didn't pay much attention to her later. And if it's still not enough she use toys, ropes and learn how to get you hard for her again.
I've never known why some NTR games has the option to stay loyal if it leads straight to the ending. It's not a loyal route, it's no route at all. Just game over.
So I have no intention making something like this)
Agree! Kind of a dream marrigeWhat if vanila route will be hot?
A depraved wife fucking the shit out of you, because she is feeling horny and you didn't pay much attention to her later. And if it's still not enough she use toys, ropes and learn how to get you hard for her again.
I've never known why some NTR games has the option to stay loyal if it leads straight to the ending. It's not a loyal route, it's no route at all. Just game over.
So I have no intention making something like this)
I must say that I really dont like when the games go towards forced NTR. Thats just me. Some men like it, and that is your thing. But my dominance kink goes like this game, and quite a few goes towards forced. It makes it hard to find the right one. Probably why I am som happy with this one 
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Still not interested tbh... but I am not into the dom-mila on the nts route either, femdom is simply one of my "no thanks" (well, outside of ntr/nts scenarios where she is sub to other guys), like lesbian, just not interesting to me, but well, thats just meWhat if vanila route will be hot?
A depraved wife fucking the shit out of you, because she is feeling horny and you didn't pay much attention to her later. And if it's still not enough she use toys, ropes and learn how to get you hard for her again.
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I like having that alternative path tied in with NTR/NTRS paths. Makes it feel like choices carry weight and if you do go down the "dark" route, it's because of decisions made, not pre-determined.Still not interested tbh... but I am not into the dom-mila on the nts route either, femdom is simply one of my "no thanks" (well, outside of ntr/nts scenarios where she is sub to other guys), like lesbian, just not interesting to me, but well, thats just me
As for lesbian, I'm mostly with you on that. I think it's because a majority of devs do such a shit job of implementing it. It's either a very aggressive woman going after the girl, or feels very forced (like a mentality of all girls are bi, which I disagree with). I'd totally be down with semi-lesbian in a more realistic setting. Such as taking your girl to a party, everyone having a good time with lots of drinks, and then egging her on to do something with another slut. In this case, it's not that she was secretly a lesbian, she's just having fun. I find that much more appealing. /rant
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I can understand that, though I always weigh up between getting content faster and having that and for me the content wins, but I can see why someone would end up with a different result
That is certainly a proble, though not just in lesbian stuff, but I don't even have to think so deeply about it... xD lesbian is just the most boring thing in the world for me, if there is no dick involved I am just not interested *shrug* Girld doing something in a threesome for example, with a guy as the third, thats fine, but even then the lesbian actions of that threesome aren't what interests me
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For me, pre-determined NTR/NTRS is just as bad as a shitty kinetic novel. When NTR haters come into threads and complain "Why not just make it a pure NTR story? REeeee!", I'm like, no. That's boring af. (Let alone that a dev should be able to make a story that goes in multiple directions if they want).I can understand that, though I always weigh up between getting content faster and having that and for me the content wins, but I can see why someone would end up with a different result
Yeah, I totally get that. Lesbian sex is not a huge turn-on. I guess what I like about my scenario above is that it's in a room with a bunch of people watching girls get wild.That is certainly a proble, though not just in lesbian stuff, but I don't even have to think so deeply about it... xD lesbian is just the most boring thing in the world for me, if there is no dick involved I am just not interested *shrug* Girld doing something in a threesome for example, with a guy as the third, thats fine, but even then the lesbian actions of that threesome aren't what interests me
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Vanilla rout is never hot... it's only boringWhat if vanila route will be hot?
It would be even more pathetic, especially if as you write the husband never paid attention to his wife.
She would become a masturbation slave and the husband would continue not to pay attention to her... when this happens the husband either has an affair with another younger girl or is gay and has an affair with a male...in either case the wife is a loser
a Vanilla path must always be a romantic story in which neither of the 2 can live in the absence of the other... but soon or later ntr Jealousy will start! (this is realistic)
Jealousy is love and it is part of the NTR in all romantic stories... bc
JEALOUSY IS LOVE and even you just imagine that your wife is doing something with her boss.. THIS IS NTR EVEN SHE NEVER FUCKED WITH HER BOSS!
I really hope you will not add vanilla in your game
The best path is alwaus Netorase ... and NTR...
in my offtopic post there is an interesting discussion about NTR in JAV porn movies-with-plot here
feel free to partecipate.
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I will participate in your topic a bit later, it looks like I should watch some of the movies you recomend first, they seem interesting)
I can't agree on the "No romance without jelousy", because love is a broad term, and jealousy can be a part of it, but not necessarily. Jelousy is about ownership of the partner - the more you feel towards your partner as a thing, and not just a thing - your thing, the more you feel jelous. Statisticaly speaking, if I recall it correctly, the most jelous people don't give a damn about their own affairs. Because it doesn't hurt their feeling of ownership, I believe.
There is some adequate level of jealousy in any kind of realtionship, because it is what relationship means - to willingly give up part of your freedom and give control over it to another person. If you brake that "unsigned contract" then other side feel betrayed.
So the main part in all of it is control, I think. That's why I connect it to the BDSM play - it's easier to mark the flow of the relationship that way. It doesn't mean that in Mila dom route she will be always in dominatrix costume and everyone will be licking her feet (but sometimes if she feels like it - maybe they will). It means, that Mila is in control, she decides what happen next, and other guys willingly gave up their part to her, because it's hot for them that way. It may be other way around, or something inbetween.
For me vanila route may be hot for the same reason. Paul didn't neglet his wife because he's gay or doesn't love her anymore. It's just life, you get bored with time, in routine. You still love the person, but that love is different - more like a really close friend maybe. And the netorase or netorare part is about changing the balance in control. It may be done in different direction not necesserily about loosening the knots around cheeting part. It may be tightened, for example, Paul can forbid her to masturbate, or force her to do it all the time. He can dress her up differently, or fuck her anytime and anywhere he wants, not paying attention to her wishes, or, again, other way around. If they willingly give up that control it may be hot (for me), because it changes the flow of relationship.
But the main part (for me) is - characters and plot. If plot is interesting, the characters are felt alive, their reactions are believable - I can play any kink. And that way - vanilla can be hot too (for me).
Tried to describe it as I could, but it's hard to speak about abstract things not in native language
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I understand tastes are different for everyone, but not sure why anyone wouldn’t want to see lesbian scenes between Mila and Liz, especially with Liz being the more experienced and apparently dominant woman. Sounds hot af!
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I made pretty clear why I am not interested in it... YOU think it sounds hot as fuck, I think it sounds boring as fuck... it is that easy...
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Look at that, the cheating path going all kind of direction.
Honestly i don't mind, i like my story deep.
Sadly a story that doesn't know where it's goin is the definition of bad writting.
Don't get me wrong, don't wanna be rude or anything but you have to realize something: we spectator own the story as much as you do. Every reader make a story his own. And when you drive your story to direction that have nothing to do with the story as it was before, you just spit on all the story your reader made for themselves.
It is your liberty to do that. So will it be the liberty of people to get mad about it because they came and stayed for something that you've taken from them.
And honestly, isn't it a tad too early anyway? Dick is litteraly telling a girl he knew for 3 day about his secret scheme? That makes for a very gullible character. And introducing such a ground breaking theme to the story without a single clue before hand... That make for gullible writting.
It just feel like it comes from nowhere and doesn't really belong in the world you've been building until now. I mean it was somewhat realist, but that theme is full on fictionnal. You introduce bigger than life characters. You make up an app that would be outright illegal in real life. And all that like it's nothing at all.
I don't even know how you made that up without an after thought
Wish you the best anyway, as i was saying, i don't mean bad, i liked the game so far
Honestly i don't mind, i like my story deep.
Sadly a story that doesn't know where it's goin is the definition of bad writting.
Don't get me wrong, don't wanna be rude or anything but you have to realize something: we spectator own the story as much as you do. Every reader make a story his own. And when you drive your story to direction that have nothing to do with the story as it was before, you just spit on all the story your reader made for themselves.
It is your liberty to do that. So will it be the liberty of people to get mad about it because they came and stayed for something that you've taken from them.
And honestly, isn't it a tad too early anyway? Dick is litteraly telling a girl he knew for 3 day about his secret scheme? That makes for a very gullible character. And introducing such a ground breaking theme to the story without a single clue before hand... That make for gullible writting.
It just feel like it comes from nowhere and doesn't really belong in the world you've been building until now. I mean it was somewhat realist, but that theme is full on fictionnal. You introduce bigger than life characters. You make up an app that would be outright illegal in real life. And all that like it's nothing at all.
I don't even know how you made that up without an after thought
Wish you the best anyway, as i was saying, i don't mean bad, i liked the game so far
To me, all the disconnected paths seem like an attempt to find a good path. It's not my game and the developer can do whatever they want, but in my opinion Bob's path was the best part so far. I don't like all these scenes with toys, messages, loyalty to a man she doesn't even know... Mila has great potential, but she should find the middle path between a pure slut and a devoted wife. Again: my opinion.
So as I have mentioned in discussion for other NTS focused game (not that anyone would know about that, of course), Couple's Duet of Love and Lust, I don't particularly like lifestyle games. For me wife sharing is more about experiences, trying new thing all the time, something like that. Definitely not interested in affairs or, god forbid, a polyamory shit. So unless Bob is in the past and couple moves on to other exciting events (doubtful considering how much feelings Mila developed for that fat moron), preferably focused on exhibitionism, prostitution and such, I'm pretty much done with NTS paths. So I was interested in NTR path more, but this update is just plain confusing. I was expecting Liz to be some ultimate slut, but she's still a two-faced weirdo (but at least she does look fucking hot). Liz has feelings for Dick (or Dik, or whatever), hmm? And the only way he fucks her is after she gets rid of that second face that I wasn't even expecting her having at that time anymore? D tells about how slutty Liz is, shows Mila a stream where Liz tells the pathetic perverts watching it to go fuck themselves. What was the message of it? I don't understand shit about it.
Yeah, this is obviously made by woman, so much emotions, so much feelings, for me it's like playing a game in japanese while not knowing a single word, single "letter". I simply don't understand shit about emotions and feelings, was born like that, I guess nothing for me to do about. Like that comical moment when Mila plays a domme but is ready to apologize and, probably, submit to Bob's demands if he denies her. What the fuck was that? Honestly why adding Mila's domme path, if she hasn't a single dominant bone in her body? It just doesn't make any sense. Should be choice between either full sub path and some neutral path.
But the art is great. Though I hope, for the future players, that author is going to revisit some art to make it more consistent. Especially those loli pictures at the beginning. You can't really add a 12 years old looking character and say "she's 30, everything is good, move on". But most importantly inconsistencies just hurts the game in general.
Yeah, this is obviously made by woman, so much emotions, so much feelings, for me it's like playing a game in japanese while not knowing a single word, single "letter". I simply don't understand shit about emotions and feelings, was born like that, I guess nothing for me to do about. Like that comical moment when Mila plays a domme but is ready to apologize and, probably, submit to Bob's demands if he denies her. What the fuck was that? Honestly why adding Mila's domme path, if she hasn't a single dominant bone in her body? It just doesn't make any sense. Should be choice between either full sub path and some neutral path.
But the art is great. Though I hope, for the future players, that author is going to revisit some art to make it more consistent. Especially those loli pictures at the beginning. You can't really add a 12 years old looking character and say "she's 30, everything is good, move on". But most importantly inconsistencies just hurts the game in general.
thank you
thank you for your reply. Can you please send me your save before this last update?