VN Ren'Py Mila AI [v1.5.3public] [aDDont]

[rockstarporno69]

When will sukhi and the 4th floor be included in the routes???? Still waiting from the first day I saw them

 

[allofthequestionable]

Personally I really like both loyal routes though I wish the pure route was longer. I really wanna see the super sub Mia that picture implies and I honestly want to see their relationship be exclusive. I like the idea of them rekindling things without having to bring in anyone else. the NTS route with bob is kinda fun so far... didn't expect to like it so much...and in some parts I like it more than the Loyal route. its kind of odd... all the routes have some oh heck I didn't like that moments (with the sharing route it is very near the start and with the loyal route it is in the middle actually) but its all pretty fun. I HATE the cheating route so much and I had to bow out around the time the delivery man showed up as it just kept getting more yucky for me. but that doesn't surprise me. that's not my thing in general. hell even NTS is usually outside my comfort zone but it was quite fun here which is why I even gave the Cheating route a shot. sad that the Camgirl route is so far down the cheating path... I couldn't get there. Just turned on Skip unread to see where the other route choices were on that route. I honestly think a loyal camgirl route could be fun. where they remain loyal to each other but he shows her off or perhaps even they show each other off to a group of fans? but this game probably doesn't need more scope creep.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

sad that the Camgirl route is so far down the cheating path... I couldn't get there. Just turned on Skip unread to see where the other route choices were on that route. I honestly think a loyal camgirl route could be fun. where they remain loyal to each other but he shows her off or perhaps even they show each other off to a group of fans?

I do wonder if it would be possible to have a switch to the camgirl route in other routes like the loyal route, and it would move you there without having to do the NTR route?

 

[Rehwyn]

I do wonder if it would be possible to have a switch to the camgirl route in other routes like the loyal route, and it would move you there without having to do the NTR route?

I'm not sure a camgirl setup would quite work with the Loyal Harem route since that's more focused on Mila's cuckqueaning, unless it was like a couple's cam focused on that type of content. Could see it easily as NTS branch though.

 

[C2H5OH + H2O]

That's because yes, it's in people's nature to reproduce but it's also to love and be loved. I mean, touch deprivation exists, people wish for intimacy more than having sex.

You are 100 percent right. There is something more intimate than sex. It is trust. When she tells you an incident from her life that she is still ashamed of. When she shares with you what she is afraid of and what can keep her awake at night. When you know that at home she likes to wear funny pajamas with teddy bears, looks very cute and funny in them and is not at all like that chic lady in a strict suit and heels that other people see her as. When you saw her crying, getting sick, getting angry. When you saw her as she is, because she does not hide anything from you. There is something much more intimate than sex, but many men will never know about it, because they are used to being content with little.

 

[ratburat711]

what is best ntr route?

 

[Aspili]

I love how no one ever really focusses on the impact of cheating. I know, we are talking games here, but there is this whole discussion about what NTR is and how it fits into the framework of western definition. And yet, we still pretend that there is no impact.

I understand that Paul is an NPC inside the game and only there to assist a story told around the MC Mila.

But if the game should be more than just another cuck game with extra steps, there needs to be some sort of development of the side characters, too. I already told my idea of the "ending" of the NTR route with a more realistic outcome for the sidecharacter Paul. Because otherwise we can just go on and on with evermore ridicilous scenarios, never reaching an actual ending to at least one route implemented. And let's be honest, the "ending" of the NTR route with BBC as is, is simply underwhelming at best.

I understand it's a game, but even then, I lose interest if the inner logic breaks. And it did break hard in the BBC route.

Characters just vanishing, especially important ones like Milas husband(!) is lazy writing. We see such things in series, because the actor gets kicked from the show or leaves suddenly, but in a game? Close the storyarc, for goodness sake.

As for the discussion of what NTR is or isn't: let's be honest, people not used to japanese society, mindset and philosophy can't really understand, because the european view on infidelity and the repercussions of it are vastly different. It simply feels "wrong" on a subconscious level, at least for me.

I like a little bit, but if it becomes unbelievable within the implemented mindset, it becomes unappealing. There is a reason why porn ends after the cum shot. If you want to continue like in the game, at least be realistic.

And the reality is that being a cuckold equalling being a weak man under the thumb of his woman is not the case. At least not without limitations. And once those limits are broken, murder and mayhem awaits.

As for Paul, he just "becomes" a weak man. Years of marriage, career, sole provider (all of which are defined as "Alphaamle" characteristics) and all of a sudden he becomes a full on cuckold with no agency on his own anymore? Sorry, but no.

I understand that a lot of people don't really care for a good storytelling and maybe I am somewhat alone in this, but if I were to start off a campaign like that in DnD or Traveller my group would haul my ass over the railing and throw me into the water to cool off and get back to the writing board. Literally.

For me, the change comes too sudden, too harsh. I love our Sagas, I love greko-roman myths and the germanic tales of Arthur and the Nibelung. They are consistent within their framework. If a strong man becomes weak there is a trigger. If a weak man becomes strong it happens through hardship. Hell, even the supernatural world behaves in a certain recognisable and consistent pattern.

The BBC storyarc of Mila doesn't. I hope aDDont does a bit of cleaning up, maybe adding a proper start. Unfortunately, his attempt with silken didn't work out. Whatever their differences were in RL, it's unfortunate.

Because, while I like the art style and the general idea, I find the storytelling more and more lacking. If I compare them to stuff like A mother's love it's a world apart. But then we have abominations like My hotwife, where the author isn't even able to make ingame choices matter for longer than three scenes before reverting back to his initial storytelling idea, overriding the player's choices entirely.

And to the guy who said cheating is the default mindset of people. Dude, really? I hope you don't apply that to your RL relationships.

 

[CutieLvr]

I will say this i am married for 35 years. No cheating here. Of my 6 married close friends only one had a wife cheat on them. The rest of us are in stable healthy relationships. And of my neighbors the 9 houses around me all are in their first marriages ranging from 9 years to almost 60 years. Now of my and my wifes siblings 2 are divorced (one 3 times) the other 2 are not. And my parents and my inlaws there was no cheating.

so just my experiences tells me most people dont cheat

Well, I wasn't talking about Mayberry, RFD, but okay, if you say so. Good luck, to you friend.

 

[Aspili]

Well, I wasn't talking about Mayberry, RFD, but okay, if you say so. Good luck, to you friend.

He wasn't, too. I am sorry if you only experience crappy relationships. But that is more a problem of your vetting skills than a general society problem. I am married for nearly a decade now, and while we are open for a lot of reasons (one of which me being a perv) we never cheated on each other or broke so much as one rule of our framework.

It's actually possible to have healthy, trusting relationships.

If you can't don't blame society r human nature. Take a long, hard look into the mirror. Porn isn't reality and cheating is not a default.

But then, I think you are simply trolling.

 

[Saerwen]

He wasn't, too. I am sorry if you only experience crappy relationships. But that is more a problem of your vetting skills than a general society problem. I am married for nearly a decade now, and while we are open for a lot of reasons (one of which me being a perv) we never cheated on each other or broke so much as one rule of our framework.

It's actually possible to have healthy, trusting relationships.

If you can't don't blame society r human nature. Take a long, hard look into the mirror. Porn isn't reality and cheating is not a default.

But then, I think you are simply trolling.

Only a true man can bring out a woman a slutty wife to be just for him.

 

[Aspili]

Only a true man can bring out a woman a slutty wife to be just for him.

Nah, my fetishes are a bit too much. She tried, but it's just not for her. And you don't force something on someone who isn't absolutely comfortable with it.

 

[Machete]

As for Paul, he just "becomes" a weak man. Years of marriage, career, sole provider (all of which are defined as "Alphaamle" characteristics) and all of a sudden he becomes a full on cuckold with no agency on his own anymore? Sorry, but no.

I understand that a lot of people don't really care for a good storytelling and maybe I am somewhat alone in this, but if I were to start off a campaign like that in DnD or Traveller my group would haul my ass over the railing and throw me into the water to cool off and get back to the writing board. Literally.

Yeah, pretty much why, in general, IMHO, NTR sucks. NTS can work. Relationship can be open and people can have fun fucking around and sharing experiences with their S.Os., as long as both are on board.

But cuckoldry is so far from normal human experience that the male MC have to come out as a total weirdo, possibly with no spine, self hating or so on, or suspension of disbelieve gets the fuck out of the window.

I'm not a fan of NTR (no shit!) so i haven't really played NTR gams, i just accidentally stumbe on some of them and i didn't get a long way through any, so i can't say i really know all the nuisances of a (good?) NTR story.

What i see is either MC crying "oh, no, the girl i love is happily been assfucked by a bunch of goons! And for some reason i stick around!!! I'm so weak!" or "Hey, look at my darling! She can take so many elephant size black cocks at once! It's so hot! I love her so much!".

Which leave me like 'Uhm. Ok. Haven't MC anything better to do today?'.

And when i see the comments in this forums, they often are like "OMG! That LI should get drowned under an extra container or two of black cocks!".

Which... i kinda can relate to, but i wonder: do you actually like the NTR scenario or do you just want to see a cute girl gangbanged? Because i can understand and appreciate the latter, but i don't see the need for the whole NTR around it.

So, just to wrap it up, i'm not sure if NTR fans really come on board for an NTR story and they can immerse in the role of the 'lucky fella who can withness the love of his life having so much fun with so many gentlemen' or the just want some good mass 'bang the bitch' porn?

Because a realistic NTR story, IMHO, can end in one of three general ways: the couple reconcile and move on, the cuck for some unfathomable reason is happy to live like a cuck or the MC says 'whatever' and dumps the slut to go look for a better partner.

 

[rockstarporno69]

Please make the next update on sukhi and the 4th floor

 

[Saerwen]

Yeah, pretty much why, in general, IMHO, NTR sucks. NTS can work. Relationship can be open and people can have fun fucking around and sharing experiences with their S.Os., as long as both are on board.

But cuckoldry is so far from normal human experience that the male MC have to come out as a total weirdo, possibly with no spine, self hating or so on, or suspension of disbelieve gets the fuck out of the window.

I'm not a fan of NTR (no shit!) so i haven't really played NTR gams, i just accidentally stumbe on some of them and i didn't get a long way through any, so i can't say i really know all the nuisances of a (good?) NTR story.

What i see is either MC crying "oh, no, the girl i love is happily been assfucked by a bunch of goons! And for some reason i stick around!!! I'm so weak!" or "Hey, look at my darling! She can take so many elephant size black cocks at once! It's so hot! I love her so much!".

Which leave me like 'Uhm. Ok. Haven't MC anything better to do today?'.

And when i see the comments in this forums, they often are like "OMG! That LI should get drowned under an extra container or two of black cocks!".

Which... i kinda can relate to, but i wonder: do you actually like the NTR scenario or do you just want to see a cute girl gangbanged? Because i can understand and appreciate the latter, but i don't see the need for the whole NTR around it.

So, just to wrap it up, i'm not sure if NTR fans really come on board for an NTR story and they can immerse in the role of the 'lucky fella who can withness the love of his life having so much fun with so many gentlemen' or the just want some good mass 'bang the bitch' porn?

Because a realistic NTR story, IMHO, can end in one of three general ways: the couple reconcile and move on, the cuck for some unfathomable reason is happy to live like a cuck or the MC says 'whatever' and dumps the slut to go look for a better partner.

Basically, the answers I got when I asked this is that they play NTR games for female characters to just be corrupted into whatever they want to see her doing but often NTR is unnecessary because most FMC games are the corruption type anyway.

 

[Machete]

Basically, the answers I got when I asked this is that they play NTR games for female characters to just be corrupted into whatever they want to see her doing but often NTR is unnecessary because most FMC games are corruption type anyway lmao.

My impression exactly that FMC games offer the same experience.

 

[Saerwen]

My impression exactly that FMC games offer the same experience.

Somehow the cheating makes it hotter, but then again why cheating isn't hot when a male character is doing? So, those who self insert hate NTR and those who don't love it.

 

[dnylive]

In my humble opinion, posting the roadmap might have been a mistake as some people are too hung up on it and it narrows down the possibilities.
Without the roadmap each route could evolve into anything.
Just a short text like "you're about to enter a NTR route" before entering a route should have been enough to avoid anything you don't like.

Anyway i enjoy the new update and from Milas perspective, which is the main character in this game (obviously), it still fits the loyal route as she is loyal to Paul regardsless of his soon to be harem.

Is it loyal from Pauls pov? Probably not (just my opinion), as he is fooling around with other woman.

But as said before, you're not playing from Pauls pov.

 

[Rehwyn]

In my humble opinion, posting the roadmap might have been a mistake as some people are too hung up on it and it narrows down the possibilities.
Without the roadmap each route could evolve into anything.
Just a short text like "you're about to enter a NTR route" before entering a route should have been enough to avoid anything you don't like.

Anyway i enjoy the new update and from Milas perspective, which is the main character in this game (obviously), it still fits the loyal route as she is loyal to Paul regardsless of a his soon to be harem.

Is it loyal from Pauls pov? Probably not (just my opinion), as he is fooling around with other woman.

But as said before, you're not playing from Pauls pov.

From Paul's perspective, it's essentially a netorase route, since he's getting involved with other partners with Mila's consent.

EDIT: Honestly though, it feels like it's going more in a polyamorous direction.

 

[dnylive]

From Paul's perspective, it's essentially a netorase route, since he's getting involved with other partners with Mila's consent.

Yes, that's what i think as well but we're not playing from his pov, so it doesn't or shouldn't really matter.
At least that's how i see it.

 

[La Dani]

I hate to write, but this is the most boring update i played in years.