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DIKHammer

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That doesn't change the fact that Tyrone is fucking Jessica alone. So it's still a shitty situation. If MC is involved, it's MMF, so why would the situation be any different when that idiot is alone with Jessica? So there's no getting around the fact that that asshole is fucking MC's woman.
anyways I'd rather
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but yeah it definitely impacted my thoughts on this AVN from like 3-4 star down to a 2 at best now.

if you want to make a sharing/NTR crap AVN be up front so people who hate that shit like me will be out
 

mtuytj

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ah I admit I only skimmed the thread cause it was late as fuck after I saw someone say optional took them at their word but still gonna play to see for myself now cause it has gotten me curious as I never played this game. Especially since I actually like MMF over FFM unless I actually really like both girls as im not much of a fan of threesomes very much as most of the time FFM is boring to me.
I mean, it's gonna be optional I guess. Dev clearly saw that people were upset and made up a "there's a third option to prevent it entirely but I just didn't have time to render it, so I made the optional scene that I said I wouldn't make first, the option to avoid it comes later"
 

SafeForSure

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I mean, it's gonna be optional I guess. Dev clearly saw that people were upset and made up a "there's a third option to prevent it entirely but I just didn't have time to render it, so I made the optional scene that I said I wouldn't make first, the option to avoid it comes later"
Doesn't hide the fact that it's now more important to make content for his cuck/NTR friends than the people who have supported him in the past. This guy showed his true colors by giving NTR content preference over normal content and this isn't the first time this happened. He proved himself untrustworthy and even changed game tags mid development and does backdoor deals with the NTR crowd and we have leaked proof of that. Now after taking money and support from people for years he basically throws the door in your face by saying if you don't like it go play something else. This is scumbag behavior and if this guy had any morals left he would refund the people whom money he has taken by giving false promises.
 

Ripuli

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I mean, it's gonna be optional I guess. Dev clearly saw that people were upset and made up a "there's a third option to prevent it entirely but I just didn't have time to render it, so I made the optional scene that I said I wouldn't make first, the option to avoid it comes later"

My guess is that the third option is completely pointless. No one who is pissed off by the situation is benefiting from it anymore. So the dev can go all out with NTR in the game, just like he wanted to do from the beginning. The ones left are those who aren't pissed off by that fucking scene, but maybe even those who paid for that scene, so that the dev can ruin his game.
 

hobobobb

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lmao that should be illegal. Deleting guarantees about your product after people have already bought in. I'd charge back if I supported this (I don't, because it was sus from the start with the cuck wallpaper commissions)

It is actually illegal (in the U.S., where Patreon is located, and thus where payment was made) to remove or fail to honor material software guarantees such as promised features, functionality, or support. This is a breach the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act and/or the Federal Trade Commission Act against deceptive and unfair practices.

Note that statements like "I will not add, or I will never add" are implicit in this also and considered a feature.

If software is sold with express (written) promises about features or functionality, and those features are removed such that the product no longer conforms to the warranty, that can constitute a breach under federal law. Failing to adhere to specifically stated goals and promises for features (or 'will never contain' promises) likely violates both the Magnuson–Moss Act and the FTC Act when it materially misleads consumers at time of purchase/subscription/fiancial support in any other method than donation.

I am guessing that the reason so many two-faced developers get away with breaking their promises (and trying to erase evidence of them... which is stupid as the internet never forgets), is that the individual claims are relativly small (couple of hundred to a few thousand dollars) and the nature of the material being supported (adult games) isn't something that many supporters are keen to have their real names assoicated with.

All that being said, it is very likely that this practice of 'bait and switch' is not only wrong on principle, but also something that could bring about no small amount of legal trouble.

Source: Look up the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act and/or the Federal Trade Commission Act. Then read for yourself.

Personal Experience: Not a lawyer, but I AM a Software Engineer with over 25 years of experience and I have seen this exact same situation happen many times.
Probably more but look up;

FTC v. Oracle from about 8-9 years ago. FTC went after them and won under deceptive practices enforcement
FTC v. Innovative Marketing from about 12-13 years ago. FTC went after them for deceptive acts & practices and fined them like $160 million USD.


To be clear, I am not suggesting anything like this with regard to this Dev.

1) the Dev isn't nearly as large in terms of social implact - so it would likely be considered a waste of court time
2) the Dev will almost certainly not have the money to even return what was given to them under the 'false pretenses', let alone pay any kind of government issued fine (it it were even enforcable). So no real reward for punishment other than moral victory.

In cases like this, if you feel the Dev has broken promises and trust (thats a personal choice every player will need to make for there own selves). If you think they are broken their word, just put their name on 'your list' and don't support the Dev ever again (I am not talking about the game, I am talking about the Dev). Games can change, Dev's with a lack of scruples... not likely.

If enough players just ignore them and don't care what they do, there practices and attitudes will eventually eat themselves into nothingness.

It sucks, but it's not worth raising your bloodpressure over.

Edited to clarify a point and correct my crappy ESL.
 

Rayne

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I mean, it's gonna be optional I guess. Dev clearly saw that people were upset and made up a "there's a third option to prevent it entirely but I just didn't have time to render it, so I made the optional scene that I said I wouldn't make first, the option to avoid it comes later"
It's rather odd that a developer who stated that sharing/swinging wouldn't be the game's primary focus prioritizes the MMF scene and then wants to add a third option later to avoid this. Typically, developers do the opposite create the basic scene first, then add other options.
 

Gpcd003

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I still use FireFox and every download gets flagged/blocked with a warning after finishing even though the archive is clean.
I'm using Brave and can download some of the games, but, decent chunk of them are getting flagged lately. 1766320519724.png
 

mtuytj

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It's rather odd that a developer who stated that sharing/swinging wouldn't be the game's primary focus prioritizes the MMF scene and then wants to add a third option later to avoid this. Typically, developers do the opposite create the basic scene first, then add other options.
I agree, I'm saying the dev is clearly panicking after realising people aren't as retarded as they thought. Who would have thought people have basic comprehension and realise they're being fucked around?
 
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Helllo, is there anyway to change the name of the relationships on this game? I have been trying to find the variables in the script with URM and got stuck at the search since although I found the right variables, they seem to be empty. I just hate that tenant , lanlady naming. The scenario clearly shows a household so either name the properly or let the player do it.
EDIT: I found the variables, but they seem to be harcoded in the /game/scripts.rpa, because even if I change the relationships there (formal, fullformal and informal) the game doesn't launch afterwards.
EDIT2: OK I made it, but it was a bit of work. First inside the game/folder there is the scripts.rpa file. I used the RpaExtract tool to extract all the scripts inside that file. Inside there is a file called DN.rpy where the relaionships are defined. Then I deleted all the relevant rpyc files and launched the game again. Now all the relationship are like I defined in the DN file. If anybody has any question feel free to ask !
 
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OWSam000

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I am glad I had waited after the update is out.
Just one comment on this update.
ANOTHER ONE.:KEK:
 

Ripuli

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I've been following this development just for fun, and I can say that it hasn't been a huge gold mine.

Patreon has had the following numbers these days

January 21, 2024 = 27 paying cuckolds

February 12, 2024 = 32 paying cuckolds

March 11, 2024 = 27 paying cuckolds

July 15, 2025 = 49 paying cuckolds

December 19, 2025 = 43 paying cuckolds.

December 24. 2025 = 46 paying cuckolds

January 6. 2026 = 50 paying cuckolds
 
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I've been following this development just for fun, and I can say that it hasn't been a huge gold mine.

Patreon has had the following numbers these days

January 21, 2024 = 27 paying cuckolds

February 12, 2024 = 32 paying cuckolds

March 11, 2024 = 27 paying cuckolds

July 15, 2025 = 49 paying cuckolds

December 19, 2025 = 43 paying cuckolds.

December 24. 2025 = 46 paying cuckolds
So what you're saying is that the ntr content attracted more cucks, they smelled the Tyrone like flies on excrement. What I don't understand is why ntr fetishists have so much money and can sway so many devs? I filtered out ntr, swinging and 40% of the games went "adios". I was going to filter out fem protag + cheating, which is literally ntr (if you don't identity with the girl when playing) but it takes away other games that are not involved.
Anyway nothing of value was lost.
 

mtuytj

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What I don't understand is why ntr fetishists have so much money and can sway so many devs?
They don't have more money or anything like that. But someone with an NTR fetish probably (because cucks usually are seen as losers by most women) doesn't have a wife or other dependents (kids etc). And similar to furries, people with fetishes are specifically looking for their type of content, which is rarer, so they're willing to fork out for it since most devs aren't going to create NTR games without that incentive.

I filtered out ntr, swinging and 40% of the games went "adios"
It feels like most AI slop games and low effort abandoned games are NTR to try and run a quick cash grab, probably a higher ratio of abandoned games in that 40% if I had to guess. It also seems a lot easier to make an NTR game (not just NTR, this goes for all fetish focus games) because the plot is a lot more formulaic and you can churn it out faster.

These are all just (somewhat) educated guesses.
 

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Hi just wondering before I download is the ntr/swinging scene avoidable or is it forced? I'm not into sharing or swinging or ntr just a personal preference so Im just trying to find out if this is worth downloading or should I move on? If it's avoidable ok but not really into forced scenes like that.

So anybody that knows if it's avoidable or forced could just let me know if appreciate it I don't have a lot of space and would rather use the space for something I'm sure I'll enjoy instead of downloading something I don't enjoy being forced on me.
Thank you
 
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Ripuli

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Hi just wondering before I download is the ntr/swinging scene avoidable or is it forced? I'm not into sharing or swinging or ntr just a personal preference so Im just trying to find out if this is worth downloading or should I move on? If it's avoidable ok but not really into forced scenes like that.

So anybody that knows if it's avoidable or forced could just let me know if appreciate it I don't have a lot of space and would rather use the space for something I'm sure I'll enjoy instead of downloading something I don't enjoy being forced on me.
Thank you

The only choice you have is to go to the after party with your best friend Tyrone and Jessica or go home. If you go, you'll be in an MMF situation. If you go home, Tyrone will bang Jessica. If you go home, you'll end up banging Tyrone's mom, but you'll lose Jessica. (The way I see it, MC loses Jessica when Tyrone bangs her. Nothing is shown about Tyrone and Jessica banging, but the player isn't stupid).



Dev thought it was really smart to put in an unavoidable scene, but then add a third option that makes everything avoidable, BUT LEAVE IT UNDONE AND DO IT IN FUTURE UPDATES. With that move, you'll lose your entire audience, or it will turn into an NTR/Sharing audience, as all the harem/love audience will run out the door and avoid this shit like the plague.



So run away while you still can.
 
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OK, I haven't reached that point yet, as I have started the game recently, but I see all the fuss here about that scene and NTR avoidance or not. For me the more important thing would be, is Jessica worth the trouble? Is she a good character for MC? I see that he has plenty of choices so far (although I favour heavily Lucy and Kendra and why not Val too)
 
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