chiefkilic

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Hey buddy, just to clarify one more time - subscribers can’t add NTR or anything that isn’t already planned for the game. The most $30-tier subscribers get is extra content like fan art and similar materials, plus access to early builds if they ask for it. If you’ve got any concerns or questions, feel free to PM me anytime.:)
Judging by the developer's statement, he's also "exposed" himself as a liar. So it was planned from the beginning that you wanted to develop a cuck game. Why did you lie all this time and say you wanted to develop a pure incest/harem game if, according to your statement, you wanted to develop a cuck/ntr game from the start? Why all the back and forth? So let's be clear: the developer decided to develop a cuck game. He should have announced that from the beginning. Then the harem fans would have rejected his game and played something else. But then the developer apparently wouldn't have made any money. So the developer is only using harem as bait for his ntr/cuck game. Incest was also just bait. At least we have certainty now. It's best to ignore the developer and all his games, which is a shame because, as I said, the initial idea with incest/harem was good, and the models... They look good too, but unfortunately the dev is into being cuckolded

PS:I mean, I must be right, since the dev says that nobody is allowed/able to interfere with what the dev wants to develop.

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Judging by the developer's statement, he's also "exposed" himself as a liar. So it was planned from the beginning that you wanted to develop a cuck game. Why did you lie all this time and say you wanted to develop a pure incest/harem game if, according to your statement, you wanted to develop a cuck/ntr game from the start? Why all the back and forth? So let's be clear: the developer decided to develop a cuck game. He should have announced that from the beginning. Then the harem fans would have rejected his game and played something else. But then the developer apparently wouldn't have made any money. So the developer is only using harem as bait for his ntr/cuck game. Incest was also just bait. At least we have certainty now. It's best to ignore the developer and all his games, which is a shame because, as I said, the initial idea with incest/harem was good, and the models... They look good too, but unfortunately the dev is into being cuckolded

PS:I mean, I must be right, since the dev says that nobody is allowed/able to interfere with what the dev wants to develop.

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Any AVN where it's on Patreon and supposedly plans to have incest (or any other worthwhile kink) too I'm very skeptical about from the start, the surprise NTR aside, but yeah had he been upfront from the start all this crowd rage could have been avoided and he'd still have solid support from the NTR camp.
 
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Why the hell are we forced to either have a threesome (MMF) with Jess or fuck Tyrone's ugly mother? The third option is totally stupid, so the dev didn't have time to add it in the last update? That's ridiculous! The dev is trying to fool us. The new "scene" doesn't change the overall situation. Tyrone is still fucking women behind MC's back, only now you get a black screen. Why isn't there an option at the party where we can fuck Jess alone? She's a thousand times better than Tyrone's mother. I don't want anything to do with this. It's a cuckold/harem game, and apparently MC is only allowed to fuck the ugly women while Tyrone gets the pretty ones.

If it were up to me, Tyrone could fuck his mother and we could fuck Jess at the party. That would be a better solution in my opinion than constantly cuckolding MC with all the insinuations that Tyrone, for example, has a secret fuck relationship with MC's aunt, which is pretty obvious given how they both behave. Tyrone also has a secret relationship with Jess because why else would Jess fuck Tyrone at the party if she was already flirting with MC beforehand? I mean, she even gave him a blowjob. From that point on, I think Tyrone had sex with all of MC's li´s.


Dev, get a grip and tell us honestly where you want to take this game. Is it going to be a harem game or an NTR/cuck game? Stop lying and stop messing with us. First you say it's going to be a harem game, then you make a scene where Tyrone "I think it was MC's sister" is having sex, then you delete the scene and say now it's really going to be a harem game, but then you make an MMF scene with Jess. On top of that, there are constant hints that Tyrone is having sex with MC's family, and that's not all. You said you didn't have time to add a third option, but then you fob us off with a black screen where nothing happens. And you didn't have time to add this tiny scene in the last update? Who are you trying to fool? So, dev, tell the truth for once: will it be a harem game without cuckolding or will it be an NTR game? And don't give me that "I don't want to spoil anything" line.

And make sure you get rid of Tyrone. As long as he's in the game, it'll never be a harem game, because everyone knows why a black guy is in a game. There's only ever one reason: everyone knows that as soon as a black character appears, it's an NTR game. That's always been the case. So if you want to make a harem game (which I don't believe), then get rid of Tyrone. As long as he's there, I won't touch the game again. I just don't understand why you'd sabotage your own game like that.

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Only one correction, this is ALREADY an NTR\Cuck game, the content is in, so the boat has sailed, unless the dev deletes that fuck from the game.
 

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Hey buddy, just to clarify one more time - subscribers can’t add NTR or anything that isn’t already planned for the game. The most $30-tier subscribers get is extra content like fan art and similar materials, plus access to early builds if they ask for it. If you’ve got any concerns or questions, feel free to PM me anytime.:)
So you admit you lied when you said it was going to be an incest harem game with no NTR? Or are you back tracking/recanting that you ever said that? Because I clearly remember that statement as do many others. So, is this gonna be about T getting laid and tag teaming a bunch of sluts or is it going to be a romance harem game. Splitting paths is gonna lose the majority of the harem crowd and continuing as is will to. You've already lost patrons so either one person spent a ton of money to have you rework your entire idea or you dumped on the statement or wanting to make the game you claimed from the start. I'm sorry to be so blunt but you have lost a lot of trust. I don't wish you any ill will but at this point I probably won't believe whatever your reply is.
 

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I don't understand developers. They start with a game designed for a certain audience, then they gain a large following within that audience. Then, when they're starting the best part of the project, I don't know what happens to them, and they go straight against their core audience, and most of the time it's because of a very small minority who suggested it. Besides, everyone in the comments is complaining about the changes they made that upset the core audience, and it's like they don't read them or they're playing dumb.
 

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I didn't play the new update, I think neither the previous one, so was "sharing" really added to this game? I defended the game in the past, since the friend was just "horny" for the aunt but nothing else, I'm not a fan of sharing and NTR but I really don't mind games with that as long they are optional and the dev makes it clear from the beginning, I think that's the main problem here, the dev should have been honest about the direction of this game, instead of adding more fetishes halfway through.

Anyway! I will keep playing, but now I will wait until it's finished or there's at least one sex scene with the main LI, I don't want to download an update just to find out it's all about a type of content I don't like, this will clearly slow down the progress of the content I prefer.
 
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chiefkilic

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I don't understand developers. They start with a game designed for a certain audience, then they gain a large following within that audience. Then, when they're starting the best part of the project, I don't know what happens to them, and they go straight against their core audience, and most of the time it's because of a very small minority who suggested it. Besides, everyone in the comments is complaining about the changes they made that upset the core audience, and it's like they don't read them or they're playing dumb.
My guess is that the developer is trying to squeeze every last penny out of the game before he abandon the game; otherwise, his actions make no sense. He's been exploiting his harem/incest supporters for three years now, the game itself has practically no content, and then the developer decided to abandon the game. But before he does, he wants to exploit a few more NTR fans before he calls it quits. That would also explain why the developer isn't addressing the criticism and accusations. That's just my wild guess.
 
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I don't understand developers. They start with a game designed for a certain audience, then they gain a large following within that audience. Then, when they're starting the best part of the project, I don't know what happens to them, and they go straight against their core audience, and most of the time it's because of a very small minority who suggested it. Besides, everyone in the comments is complaining about the changes they made that upset the core audience, and it's like they don't read them or they're playing dumb.
Money plays a big part to that. Usually, and I am not necessarily referring to this game, some NTR fetishist likes the game and the models enough to PM the dev, offer a shitload of money and demand the game becomes cuckfest, not only to enjoy such a plot, but to also "one up" the harem chuds that were fans of the game (cucks have a lot of money, bc they don't spend on real women as chicks ignore losers) . I suspect the same happened here, and even though the dev said noone paid him to cuckify the game , he lied before when he claimed there won't be NTR. Why should I trust? This feels like a demoralization psyop.
 

Ferven40

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Money plays a big part to that. Usually, and I am not necessarily referring to this game, some NTR fetishist likes the game and the models enough to PM the dev, offer a shitload of money and demand the game becomes cuckfest, not only to enjoy such a plot, but to also "one up" the harem chuds that were fans of the game (cucks have a lot of money, bc they don't spend on real women as chicks ignore losers) . I suspect the same happened here, and even though the dev said noone paid him to cuckify the game , he lied before when he claimed there won't be NTR. Why should I trust? This feels like a demoralization psyop.
Whether they're joking or not, these NTR and Futa guys are completely ruining the F95 community. Almost 80% of the old posts they update, or the new games, are NTR, Futa, gay, or furry content. And they get really upset when the majority of the older users complain. It would be great if they just had their own community with NTR, gay, furry, futa—all the things they like—and left this one as it was before.
 

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Whether they're joking or not, these NTR and Futa guys are completely ruining the F95 community. Almost 80% of the old posts they update, or the new games, are NTR, Futa, gay, or furry content. And they get really upset when the majority of the older users complain. It would be great if they just had their own community with NTR, gay, furry, futa—all the things they like—and left this one as it was before.
It's not even about that. The issue with this particular dev is the claim that this wasn't going to be what it is now. The misrepresentation of their true story. He wanted to tap into the mass harem base for financial support so he made a bold promise/lie then claimed he would fix it then turned it into a swing/cuck fest. Maybe as I said in my previous statement he got an offer from a patron or maybe his intentions were just false all along. Either way the issue is none of this would be a problem if he was upfront about what the plan or idea for this vn was. The entire issue here is integrity.
 
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Dr. Phoenix Games

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I've been following this game for quite some time, and I haven't played it for two updates. Today, an update was released and I can finally support it with money, but I discover that NTR has been added :confused: :confused: ? FF GAME
There’s no NTR in the game. There’s one scene used to develop a conflict arc, and there’s a threesome(Which is totally avoidable and choice-based) involving a side character(not LI!) that’s it. Both scenes will be properly explored later with that character, so just try playing the game.:)
 

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There’s no NTR in the game. There’s one scene used to develop a conflict arc, and there’s a threesome(Which is totally avoidable and choice-based) involving a side character(not LI!) that’s it. Both scenes will be properly explored later with that character, so just try playing the game.:)
Will there be milf(mom)-sharing in this game? Non-ntr sharing of course
Whether it be friend's mom being shared between her son and MC, or MC sharing his mom with friend

Not tryna push anything, just asking a question cuz of this comment and the swinging tag, though I know I'm gonna get the angry reactions anyways so it is what it is
 

Dr. Phoenix Games

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I’ll address everyone else with a general message. No subscriber can add NTR or any other fetish to the game. The scenes that upset some of you the most were added for a specific reason, which will be revealed in later updates. I can’t spoil that now just to calm people down, so please be patient.

In the end, you’re playing this for free - no one is forcing you to. If you don’t like it, just ignore it and don’t waste your energy. And last but not least, don’t forget this is just a visual novel, not some world-changing thing.

Whether you like a project or not, a lot of time and effort usually goes into it, including mine. I had to learn rendering and coding from scratch while developing the game, and trust me, those 50+ subscribers (whom I’m very grateful to) don’t even cover a quarter of what’s been invested.
So let’s all take it a bit easier and keep things positive.

P.S. Even if something upsetting happens in any project, it really shouldn’t cause panic or extreme reactions. You survived the endings of GoT and Lost- this shouldn’t hit harder than that
 

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The game has 9 scenes in total, among them:
1 dream scene, 1 interrupted foreplay, 2 masturbations and 1 chaotic nothing with mom
3 actual scenes of sex + 1 blowjob all of them being really short

Issue people mostly whine about: pseudo ntr in 1 scene
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Will there be milf(mom)-sharing in this game? Non-ntr sharing of course
Whether it be friend's mom being shared between her son and MC, or MC sharing his mom with friend

Not tryna push anything, just asking a question cuz of this comment and the swinging tag, though I know I'm gonna get the angry reactions anyways so it is what it is
Lol, you’re really adding fuel to the fire. But no, I honestly don’t know why swinging was added to the tags. There is only one threesome scene in the game, and it involves a side character. This is not swinging, since there are no romantic relationships involved. There will be no swinging, sharing, or anything like that involving the landlady or any other LI.
 

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Lol, you’re really adding fuel to the fire. But no, I honestly don’t know why swinging was added to the tags. There is only one threesome scene in the game, and it involves a side character. This is not swinging, since there are no romantic relationships involved. There will be no swinging, sharing, or anything like that involving the landlady or any other LI.
I think someone told me swinging is used for sharing. Even if they aren't in a relationship alot would see MMF as sharing ( I do). Now im not saying I have an issue with the scene or anything. But if that is true I can see why it would be added.
 
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