- Jun 1, 2020
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Its sad that this game suffers with the Patreon Syndrome.
You can trick yourself thinking that is not, that this staff is different and they are doing everything to support the game.
But you will be wrong.
You can sepparete the problems in topics:
1) No. The game doesnt take one month or more of that to be ready to play.
The last updates was about 5 or 10 minutes of gameplay with max two scenes in each. TWO scenes that doesnt have high quality at all. I love the art style, but lets be honest, the motion scenes lack of quality or smoothness.
That is one big problem of patreon, the authors always delay their works to extend it for more than one month. Beyond the lazyness, that is a dumb strategy that makes people stop their donations (like i stopped mine).
2) Linda not showing in many updates and having only bad scenes.
The main plot of this game IS the incest relation between son and mom. All the others characters are SECONDARY. This plot deserve at least ONE scene per update to be fair, but no. They think that postponing Linda will make the Patreons to keep paying monthly till Linda appears, again, this is a dumb way of thinking.
3) The top donators define the history.
Remember: there is a game and a story that attracted ALL the supporters. You can add MORE work with things that the top donators want, but you cant go away with the history just because they want.
There is 1274 supporters, if we input the minimum value of support ($2) just to have a base, the staff would receive $ 2548 per month. We can say, safely, that the real ammount the staff receive monthly for this project is more than $ 5K per month.
With that budget, the work can be a lot better than the delivered till now.
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And if you are that kind of person that always blind defend things, like "oh, the developers anwers more than others" and others non sense arguments, this actittude will make you loss everything you like. Because good things gets support and stay long, bad things always get cancelled.
I really like this game and want this to be developed in a way that can get lots and lots supporters, but the way it is going, the supporters will fly away.
You can trick yourself thinking that is not, that this staff is different and they are doing everything to support the game.
But you will be wrong.
You can sepparete the problems in topics:
1) No. The game doesnt take one month or more of that to be ready to play.
The last updates was about 5 or 10 minutes of gameplay with max two scenes in each. TWO scenes that doesnt have high quality at all. I love the art style, but lets be honest, the motion scenes lack of quality or smoothness.
That is one big problem of patreon, the authors always delay their works to extend it for more than one month. Beyond the lazyness, that is a dumb strategy that makes people stop their donations (like i stopped mine).
2) Linda not showing in many updates and having only bad scenes.
The main plot of this game IS the incest relation between son and mom. All the others characters are SECONDARY. This plot deserve at least ONE scene per update to be fair, but no. They think that postponing Linda will make the Patreons to keep paying monthly till Linda appears, again, this is a dumb way of thinking.
3) The top donators define the history.
Remember: there is a game and a story that attracted ALL the supporters. You can add MORE work with things that the top donators want, but you cant go away with the history just because they want.
There is 1274 supporters, if we input the minimum value of support ($2) just to have a base, the staff would receive $ 2548 per month. We can say, safely, that the real ammount the staff receive monthly for this project is more than $ 5K per month.
With that budget, the work can be a lot better than the delivered till now.
---
And if you are that kind of person that always blind defend things, like "oh, the developers anwers more than others" and others non sense arguments, this actittude will make you loss everything you like. Because good things gets support and stay long, bad things always get cancelled.
I really like this game and want this to be developed in a way that can get lots and lots supporters, but the way it is going, the supporters will fly away.
- Dec 31, 2018
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Serious question, does the developer have some kind of mental handicap? Who would design game this way (gameplay-wise)?
I am asking because I am thinking of developing a game of my own and would like to know if the shitty gameplay is result of some kind of blind spot or what not. I would like to avoid those errors.
I am asking because I am thinking of developing a game of my own and would like to know if the shitty gameplay is result of some kind of blind spot or what not. I would like to avoid those errors.
- Jan 10, 2020
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I don't know what you mean by "shitty gameplay". It's just a buggy point and click game with visual novel elements. Pretty standard actually.
The point is that this game was not made with the well-known Renpy or with Unity. And from the looks of it (I've been playing this game since v18) it looks like the developer is self taught. So, I guess developing a game with an rare game engine that lacks proper documentation will result in a buggy gameplay. But the dev has been doing a great job so far (Imho).
He is not using the standards and the art is something remarkable, so he has my respect for that.
now, if you are planning on doing something on your own, then my advice is; JUST DEW IT!. Stick to what you can do, do not aim that high and PLAN!.
Problem with majority of patreon based games is (for what I have been seeing) they start a project without knowing where they want to go with it. This results in a pretty common problem called " design debt " (this is basically, starting any project using "the easy way" in most features implemented early that will limit future development when the project becomes bigger.)
Do not do that; Just plan what features you want for you game, find the best solution to implement them, build the story arround it and stick to it until you finish the job.
Good luck
I totally agree with you, they keep using excuses to delay every update, that should take 2/3 weeks of work.
- Oct 14, 2019
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Hello Everyone,
Well we had here a big storm and i had no internet for days... it is a nightmare XD
the game is in working progress ,but we also prepare for the december update acording to the votes and wishes, so it might take a bit longer. Please keep waiting, i will tell you when i get the videos for the last check
from that phase just a few more days left to publish
We also try to put in more and more content in each update but this means more work on scripting as well and on programming.
Thank you for your patient and kind words!Please take care!
Well we had here a big storm and i had no internet for days... it is a nightmare XD
the game is in working progress ,but we also prepare for the december update acording to the votes and wishes, so it might take a bit longer. Please keep waiting, i will tell you when i get the videos for the last check
from that phase just a few more days left to publish We also try to put in more and more content in each update but this means more work on scripting as well and on programming.
Thank you for your patient and kind words!Please take care!
Always same excusesHello Everyone,
Well we had here a big storm and i had no internet for days... it is a nightmare XD
the game is in working progress ,but we also prepare for the december update acording to the votes and wishes, so it might take a bit longer. Please keep waiting, i will tell you when i get the videos for the last check
We also try to put in more and more content in each update but this means more work on scripting as well and on programming.
Thank you for your patient and kind words!Please take care!
A fucking storm lmaoHello Everyone,
Well we had here a big storm and i had no internet for days... it is a nightmare XD
the game is in working progress ,but we also prepare for the december update acording to the votes and wishes, so it might take a bit longer. Please keep waiting, i will tell you when i get the videos for the last check
We also try to put in more and more content in each update but this means more work on scripting as well and on programming.
Thank you for your patient and kind words!Please take care!
- Jul 17, 2018
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I told you previously that update 32 will be soon on September 20
October update will be on the 22
The November update will be on the 28
The December update will be on the 31
Mostly to remind Linda will not be present in update 32
Just an expectation
October update will be on the 22
The November update will be on the 28
The December update will be on the 31
Mostly to remind Linda will not be present in update 32
Just an expectation
- Nov 20, 2018
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how do u know she wont be? was the girl for this update published on patron yet?I told you previously that update 32 will be soon on September 20
October update will be on the 22
The November update will be on the 28
The December update will be on the 31
Mostly to remind Linda will not be present in update 32
Just an expectation
- Jul 17, 2018
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No, it has not been published, but Linda was present in Update 31 and so will not be present in Update 32
- Dec 31, 2018
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I ques the better term would be shitty "game design" than "game play". I get that the visionary-studio engine probably has major drawbacks, but I am more referring to the choices that clearly the developer made.
Like there is instance, where according to walktrough, there is 50-50% chance that a person will visit you. This visit gates your entire progress and from my testing, it seems actually be random, meaning that there is small chance that someone might be stuck forever because of the coin flip. Not to mention there was decision that that coin flip could only be done at certain times - after bunch of clicks and unskibable dialogue that repeats same long text, ever time.
Another thing is things taking too many clicks. From what I saw from the engine's tutorial videos, you need extra effort to make these extra steps. Same with slow text or those unnecessary mid-menu titles. If you would just write the dialogue or dialogue into the engine like newb, it would spit the text/ menu's out normally, like any other engine. Someone made decisions to alter things and in progress made things worse.
The whole thing seems to have these strange and frankly stupid decisions and I would like to know why. Usually when someone new develops something, it resembles more like copy of something else that inspired them. This game is like someone took worst things from bunch of 80's-90's poin'n'click games and rammed them into worst engine they could find. I really think that this thing is so bad that there could be valuable lessons to be learned in here.
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- Nov 23, 2018
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stop bitching Icstor's widow
take your timeHello Everyone,
Well we had here a big storm and i had no internet for days... it is a nightmare XD
the game is in working progress ,but we also prepare for the december update acording to the votes and wishes, so it might take a bit longer. Please keep waiting, i will tell you when i get the videos for the last check
We also try to put in more and more content in each update but this means more work on scripting as well and on programming.
Thank you for your patient and kind words!Please take care!
- Jul 17, 2018
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I agree with you and also the thing that makes me very angry is why they announce the approaching update and it has not been prepared. It is better for them not to announce it because I like to remain suspended
- Feb 28, 2020
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I think you are right ,they should not announce the update new ,when everything done and only 2-3 days required ,then they should announce the news , i am with you