Xia Liu Bei

The Last Emperor
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Mar 11, 2019
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I've turned Gloria into a sweet ideal Milf instead of her being bitchy in the original game and Linda here is quite naive and horny.
I loved Gloria as a bitch. It's part of what made her so hot. You have to understand the dynamics of the relationship between Gloria and Joey to know how it created sexual tension. Gloria is a rich, wealthy elite. Joey, not. It starts out with her looking down on Joey, thinking she would be able to take advantage of him, push him around, etc...

As the sexual relationship develops, she can become softer and softer, but you absolutely can't have her weak and pliable from the beginning. It isn't who she is, and it takes all the sexiness of the character away.
 

virtuvoid

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I loved Gloria as a bitch. It's part of what made her so hot. You have to understand the dynamics of the relationship between Gloria and Joey to know how it created sexual tension. Gloria is a rich, wealthy elite. Joey, not. It starts out with her looking down on Joey, thinking she would be able to take advantage of him, push him around, etc...

As the sexual relationship develops, she can become softer and softer, but you absolutely can't have her weak and pliable from the beginning. It isn't who she is, and it takes all the sexiness of the character away.
Totally agree about Gloria.
If anything, the problem in MD was that the clever rich bitch Gloria loses much of her aura of cleverness by giving in to Joey too quickly, too easily.
Linda, on the other hand, is much too grumpy with Joey through much of the game. Change that to make her "softer" but still firmly against Joey's advances. More pain for Joey at the beginning, but more gain later.
 

solidsnake322

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Feb 19, 2019
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I loved Gloria as a bitch. It's part of what made her so hot. You have to understand the dynamics of the relationship between Gloria and Joey to know how it created sexual tension. Gloria is a rich, wealthy elite. Joey, not. It starts out with her looking down on Joey, thinking she would be able to take advantage of him, push him around, etc...

As the sexual relationship develops, she can become softer and softer, but you absolutely can't have her weak and pliable from the beginning. It isn't who she is, and it takes all the sexiness of the character away.
Gloria is authoritarian and doesn't flex according to player. She is sweet as long as you do what you're told to do! If not she will force yourself on you. Since Gloria is rich and full of pride she doesn't go around sleeping with men she sees as Inferior in her standard, and she doesn't do it with her Husband since he is a old and she only likes young men and unfortunately thats how i made her to be in my game. 1655820406922.png
The reason for that is the you the player already had a long time relationship with Gloria before starting the game! It was my idea in a way to show her sex scenes much faster instead of making you guys wait for hours to get her scenes where you have to persuade her and progress in game wasting your time. i just wanted to get to the main plot in a snap like a simple VN. since this is still the beginning of the story i can make heavy changes according to what majority wants. The first part will tell you the story from my perspective, if the players don't like it then i can change the story and update the game.
 

Nikinekdng

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Gloria is authoritarian and doesn't flex according to player. She is sweet as long as you do what you're told to do! If not she will force yourself on you. Since Gloria is rich and full of pride she doesn't go around sleeping with men she sees as Inferior in her standard, and she doesn't do it with her Husband since he is a old and she only likes young men and unfortunately thats how i made her to be in my game. View attachment 1883222
The reason for that is the you the player already had a long time relationship with Gloria before starting the game! It was my idea in a way to show her sex scenes much faster instead of making you guys wait for hours to get her scenes where you have to persuade her and progress in game wasting your time. i just wanted to get to the main plot in a snap like a simple VN. since this is still the beginning of the story i can make heavy changes according to what majority wants. The first part will tell you the story from my perspective, if the players don't like it then i can change the story and update the game.
I hope there are lots of CGs about Gloria! I'm always rooting for you!
 

Falk3369

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The reason for that is the you the player already had a long time relationship with Gloria before starting the game! It was my idea in a way to show her sex scenes much faster instead of making you guys wait for hours to get her scenes where you have to persuade her and progress in game wasting your time.
Please not too fast.
Otherwise, it will not be a game anymore, just another VN.
 

solidsnake322

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Please not too fast.
Otherwise, it will not be a game anymore, just another VN.
I can drag and make the game longer for hours with 1 scene each at a time instead, But most people are against it. I just wanted to make a quick game instead of wasting people time for hours like how original game did.

But if people want the game to be like 20-25 hrs longer with web of choices, Its not too late for me to go back and rewrite stuff.
 

solidsnake322

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Hahaha relax bruv, i wont make it unnecessarily long.




^^^ I've attached a link above which directs you to the poll where you can vote for the game to be lengthy or not.


I humbly suggest everyone to vote so that i can decide what you guys want, Adding few more dialogues and normal scenes won't take that long so don't worry.
 
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haoqibaobao

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Jan 16, 2019
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Gloria is authoritarian and doesn't flex according to player. She is sweet as long as you do what you're told to do! If not she will force yourself on you. Since Gloria is rich and full of pride she doesn't go around sleeping with men she sees as Inferior in her standard, and she doesn't do it with her Husband since he is a old and she only likes young men and unfortunately thats how i made her to be in my game. View attachment 1883222
The reason for that is the you the player already had a long time relationship with Gloria before starting the game! It was my idea in a way to show her sex scenes much faster instead of making you guys wait for hours to get her scenes where you have to persuade her and progress in game wasting your time. i just wanted to get to the main plot in a snap like a simple VN. since this is still the beginning of the story i can make heavy changes according to what majority wants. The first part will tell you the story from my perspective, if the players don't like it then i can change the story and update the game.
Maybe people have different understand about what does "Sweet" or "Bitchy Way" mean, your decision seems also reasonable since they already had a long relationship, so it could also not take too much time for players to put his paints down, for my aspect Gloria is a woman which is "expensive", "dominate" and somehow try to "manipulate" our player, always told him "if i want fxxk " the player has to fxxk with her, even sometimes the palyer is horny but she did not want then she will rufuse to do so (even maybe give him a littel tease) she tried to force palyer to do something to achieve her " Evil Goals“ (Money, Power , revenge what ever this woman looks for) and player try to follow it somehow in his own way, which also leads to a funny result that Gloria did not expect 100% and then the she started to plan something new in another round etc. This is my understanding how did the "Gloria Line" developed in this story, for the fxxk sence sofar as i understood either Gloria has a feeling that things moving on then she is in good mood and then she will reward player for a fxxk or sometimes she is pissed off (Like seems some other woman is dropped the attention of player and she is feeling threatened and try to teas and do the player to show she is a sexy woman etc or she is pissed off from other people for exp her husband and then she will do the player to release her tension, or to prove that someone is attracted by her, and i think this humanity make her like a special woman somehow). Nevertheless, we will never now how does your project look like, so still recommend you to release the first pilot project and let us take a deep look, if you have interest and this also make fun for you, you can always make adjsutment.
 

Xia Liu Bei

The Last Emperor
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Mar 11, 2019
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I can drag and make the game longer for hours with 1 scene each at a time instead, But most people are against it. I just wanted to make a quick game instead of wasting people time for hours like how original game did.

But if people want the game to be like 20-25 hrs longer with web of choices, Its not too late for me to go back and rewrite stuff.
I don’t think anyone wants the game to drag on for hours. I think a lot of us just want the characters to be the same characters we fell in love with, instead of entirely new characters that just happen to look like the old ones.

Either way, it’s your version and you’re doing the hard work, so you do it according to your vision.
 

knight8

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Hahaha relax bruv, i wont make it unnecessarily long.




^^^ I've attached a link above which directs you to the poll where you can vote for the game to be lengthy or not.


I humbly suggest everyone to vote so that i can decide what you guys want, Adding few more dialogues and normal scenes won't take that long so don't worry.
Dp you hava any estimative to when you will release the first demo?
 
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Jorjor69

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I don’t think anyone wants the game to drag on for hours. I think a lot of us just want the characters to be the same characters we fell in love with, instead of entirely new characters that just happen to look like the old ones.

Either way, it’s your version and you’re doing the hard work, so you do it according to your vision.
I concur. Let the creator have his own creative space. Then lett's see the final product and comment/suggest from thence. It's fair that way methinks.
 
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ethereal one

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I kinda like the dynamic where Gloria is this rich, experienced woman who wants to be... not dom, but the dominant partner in a relationship. The one to lead the main character around by the nose (or the dick) and sets the terms of the relationship.

At first.

But I like the (slow?) development where the main character eventually takes control. Again, not a dom and sub relationship, but in the same vein that I like the idea of the son convincing the mother to eventually accept such an incestous relationship, I like the idea that Gloria gradually yields and realizes she doesn't have to be the "bitch" all the time. That she becomes his bitch. Not that she becomes a maid or any less assertive, but just accept that the MC is leading her with his cock, instead of the other way around.
 
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solidsnake322

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Hey guys i have sent out a part 1 demo to few people i know in the thread who are old fans of the game. i would like to hear their opinion on it before i put the game out. Also to the people i've sent the game please don't post it or share it has its still not complete and need changes to be made....i will re adjust things accordingly and release it for everyone here and probably make new thread too.
 
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Hey guys i have sent out a part 1 demo to few people i know in the thread who are old fans of the game. i would like to hear their opinion on it before i put the game out. Also to the people i've sent the game please don't post it or share it has its still not complete and need changes to be made....i will re adjust things accordingly and release it for everyone here and probably make new thread too.
We won
 
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