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kujoe

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Sep 23, 2020
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I mean, I don't know what your threshold is, but when they're all doing it together, they're likely to touch each other as well. It's not like they're falling in line waiting for their turn (which would be a silly scene to look at, though not unlikely considering the story), nor having trysts behind the MC's back (except the two lab assistants probably), and so on. Not an expert in gender and all that, but maybe it's not that they're bi per se, but they certainly can fool around given the right heated moment when the MC is around, just like in the original. Extra spoiler: in the original story, Anna is the "main" girl, and in fact he was her first, if you know what I mean. The rest love their master and love him. It's only those two assistants who have a history with each other, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, the dev has enough material to work with, and can make changes if they want, so it might not be a 1 to 1 adaptation. And I would say that it's still a harem story, because even if the two lab assistants didn't exist or aren't involved with the story (they are), the rest of the cast is still there.
 
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Limited20

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Aug 4, 2020
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Think this is going out of hand ...
In harem, some lesbian action is normal.
Like MC fucking doggy style one girl, while she eats the pussy of another woman.
If the girls only love the MC, its fine

As long as there is no actual "love" or "romantic feelings" between the girls, lesbian action is ok.
And its not the majority of the content ofc

Its gets bad only when the girls actually have feelings for each other and they fuck without letting the MC join
 

Simulacrum29

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Apr 20, 2018
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I mean, I don't know what your threshold is, but when they're all doing it together, they're likely to touch each other as well. It's not like they're falling in line waiting for their turn (which would be a silly scene to look at, though not unlikely considering the story), nor having trysts behind the MC's back (except the two lab assistants probably), and so on. Not an expert in gender and all that, but maybe it's not that they're bi per se, but they certainly can fool around given the right heated moment when the MC is around, just like in the original. Extra spoiler: in the original story, Anna is the "main" girl, and in fact he was her first, if you know what I mean. The rest love their master and love him. It's only those two assistants who have a history with each other, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, the dev has enough material to work with, and can make changes if they want, so it might not be a 1 to 1 adaptation. And I would say that it's still a harem story, because even if the two lab assistants didn't exist or aren't involved with the story (they are), the rest of the cast is still there.
ever seen a porn with a girl and multiple dudes, did you see what the dudes did while its not their turn? Blowing each other? Giving each other a reacharound, some riming perhaps? The argument is a glaring double standard at best a dumb bullshit argument at worst.

And no one realy makes an argument about some touching each other in a threesome. They are fucking behind his back, and girls dont need to turn Bi just for pleasuring others while in an MFF+ scene, they could even comment on it that is was fun to see that MC got something out of it even if it did nothing for them directly. But no its always "wow what did i miss, Team carpetmuncher now wohoo!"
 

motseer

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Dec 17, 2021
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The word "polygamy" means being married to more than one spouse. It is NOT gender specific.
The word "polyamory" means having a romantic, sexual and/or committed relationship with more than one person at a time. It is NOT gender specific.
The word "harem" means a ROOM set aside for the women of a family. It is gender specific. Who owns the house that the harem is a part of could be anyone and is NOT gender specific.

It's always good to know the meaning of a word before using it... jus' sayin'.
 

kujoe

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Sep 23, 2020
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ever seen a porn with a girl and multiple dudes, did you see what the dudes did while its not their turn? Blowing each other? Giving each other a reacharound, some riming perhaps? The argument is a glaring double standard at best a dumb bullshit argument at worst.
True, that's fair.

And no one realy makes an argument about some touching each other in a threesome. They are fucking behind his back, and girls dont need to turn Bi just for pleasuring others while in an MFF+ scene, they could even comment on it that is was fun to see that MC got something out of it even if it did nothing for them directly. But no its always "wow what did i miss, Team carpetmuncher now wohoo!"
But this was my main point, that just because the women get to play with each other in a MFFF scene, doesn't necessarily mean that they're bi or in a relationship with each other that they betray the MC. Or even the concept of this game being a harem game for that matter. Now reaching the introduction of the two lab assistants in-game, and knowing their backstory, it's up to you if you feel that it's such a break from the harem VN genre that you'd have to unfollow it. That's also fair.
 

Deleted member 4865569

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The word "polygamy" means being married to more than one spouse. It is NOT gender specific.
The word "polyamory" means having a romantic, sexual and/or committed relationship with more than one person at a time. It is NOT gender specific.
The word "harem" means a ROOM set aside for the women of a family. It is gender specific. Who owns the house that the harem is a part of could be anyone and is NOT gender specific.

It's always good to know the meaning of a word before using it... jus' sayin'.
HAREM is synonymous with Male-Polygamy which when it comes to polyamory, it is not.

When it comes to harems, girls are only devoted to one man and only have sex with one man
and no one else, male or female.


Girls could have a harem as well, and it is called a reverse harem, also
can be known as polygyny.


For a harem to be a form of male polygamy, don't mean they have to be wives, either.
Back in the day, even servants or concubines were added to a harem to a polygamous man.

When we do today's harems, it's mostly consisting of just lovers who are only in a relationship
with one man.

Polyamory consist of everyone involved, most likely with each other, which is not a harem.

When it comes to the site definition of what a harem is as well, It doesn't really grasp what a harem
really is either. It's more meanings to what a harem is.

But I am not trying to go off-topic, we were discussing the game, not a bunch of meanings because
it's going to be a bunch of no this, and no that, which I don't want to get into today.

Which in general, this is going to be my last reply in this thread because I said all I had to say.
No point in sticking around, so I'm going to see myself out for good now.

If it's something I don't like or don't match up to what I like, no point in sticking around and
typing away in the thread, just going to move on to another game.
 
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motseer

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HAREM is synonymous with Male-Polygamy which when it comes to polyamory, it is not.

When it comes to harems, girls are only devoted to one man and only have sex with one man
and no one else, male or female.


Girls could have a harem as well, and it is called a reverse harem, also
can be known as polygyny.


For a harem to be a form of male polygamy, don't mean they have to be wives, either.
Back in the day, even servants or concubines were added to a harem to a polygamous man.

When we do today's harems, it's mostly consisting of just lovers who are only in a relationship
with one man.

Polyamory consist of everyone involved, most likely with each other, which is not a harem.

when it comes to the site definition of what a harem is as well, It doesn't really grasp what a harem
really is either.

But I am not trying to go off-topic, we were discussing the game, not a bunch of meanings because
it's gonna be a bunch of no this, and no that, which I don't want to get into today.
The definitions I posted are from Webster's Dictionary. Site definitions of those words are somewhat different but still not the same as what you claim. Bend the definition how you like - it's still incorrect.
 

eddie987

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Dec 5, 2018
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True, that's fair.


But this was my main point, that just because the women get to play with each other in a MFFF scene, doesn't necessarily mean that they're bi or in a relationship with each other that they betray the MC. Or even the concept of this game being a harem game for that matter. Now reaching the introduction of the two lab assistants in-game, and knowing their backstory, it's up to you if you feel that it's such a break from the harem VN genre that you'd have to unfollow it. That's also fair.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me it's not about the meaning of harem, any sort of betrayal or anything like that, but about expectations and outcome. What I mean is, when I read in the overview "...a dozen beautiful older women all dedicated to their new Young Master" I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to see some kind of power fantasy type of game, right? And obviously a big part of it is that all those women are focused on pleasuring the MC, since as we also read in the overview "Each willing to put her body on the line to make sure his every need no matter how wicked, is met by capable hands... mouths... and much, much more." Well, we already have two of them who didn't get that memo...

If it said "some of them are dedicated to their new Young Master" and "some willing to... ...much, much more." I don't think anyone would be surprised when the lesbian couple showed up.
Anyway, I think we've reached the "beating a dead horse" threshold, so I'll stop here.
 

Fiufia

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Jun 25, 2021
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the excuses people make up to justify not wanting to see something in the game:FacePalm:
If you guys want to have the option to see or not see it, I understand. but all these ridiculous excuses just make me say developer please put more lesbians/bi in the game(y)
 

Lokitox8

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Stunning Characters All Around :love:. Are you planning on adding more and if possible maybe add a black woman:unsure: Idk more variety. Anyway Good Luck With Your Project(y)
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Nov 20, 2018
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I enjoy the game mostly: nice renders, interesting overall premise, varied character personalities and body types. I can't say I'm a fan of the porn girl speech while I'm in the middle of trying to read text. Sound effects aren't easy to use, and stuff like this breaks immersion for me and conflicts with how I imagined the voice already. At least I can turn the volume for these sound bites all the way down, separately from the music volume. It is an issue to have these split between the Sound and the Voice sliders, though. That means I will never hear anything but the music . . . or I "get" to hear the cheesy and unattractive fake-sexy voices. [sigh] It's fortunate that I enjoy the other aspects of the game.
 
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