VN Ren'Py Completed Milky Touch [Final] [Studio Kuma]

[REGUser]

A modder can't just "fix it" or make it justice for the same reason you applaude the writing of the game. The lack of renders in the ending scenes with Claudia made them lackluster. Not so much the text and story. The end as whole felt rushed and the feeling of a lot of loose ends keep hang in the air. I don't think I want to invest much time in another game from this creator, at least not until its done.

I am sorry but are you high or under the influence right now? You've just disagreed and agreed with me in the same sentence or perhaps your lack of understanding is what caught you out.

A modder can replicate assets as it's been done many times in other games, the reason I question this game is because it's done by an artist not through a 3D render engine like DAZ or Blender and we have a lot of talented mods/devs that can and have reproduced game assets through fan art and fan mods (almost completely new stories or spin offs). All I ask is for more renders and perhaps a padded filler between the flight and the one year time skip, that would at least serve it some justice.

 

["CJ"]

Sorry about that, didn't know about that thread. Also sorry for stepping on your toes, wasn't my intention.

Thanks for the apology, I appreciate it! I figured you didn't know the thread so that's why I told you.

 

[bunkerturret]

I thought there would be more scenes with Riley and Evelyn

 

[hohohihi]

Thanks, I love the art and Claudia love ending. It is what most important to me.

 

[Neko-Chan Pacifica]

I am sorry but are you high or under the influence right now? You've just disagreed and agreed with me in the same sentence or perhaps your lack of understanding is what caught you out.

A modder can replicate assets as it's been done many times in other games, the reason I question this game is because it's done by an artist not through a 3D render engine like DAZ or Blender and we have a lot of talented mods/devs that can and have reproduced game assets through fan art and fan mods (almost completely new stories or spin offs). All I ask is for more renders and perhaps a padded filler between the flight and the one year time skip, that would at least serve it some justice.

Did anyone bother to contact the original developer and ask their permission to make alterations to their game? Does the game have any terms and conditions attached to it? Just because a developer doesn't include any terms and conditions to their game, does not necessarily mean they do not have them, if they did not they would have to be insane. Then there is the possible issue of copyright infringement. You cannot just go into someone's game code and alter it without their permission, it would be tied with their terms and conditions it would be in their terms and conditions, prohibiting reverse engineering etc. Just these few things alone, are enough to put anyone off even bothering even with abandoned games, the copyright still belongs to the original developer unless they open source it.

As for the game assets, I don't see any problems there, given people can just copy the assets as you said.

Unless of course there is some sort of agreement in place while something is in development that only the designated people can add, alter or completely change the code..if it became abandoned it would literally become open sourced (but not always, the dev, creator still retains the copyright unless it does become become open sourced, regardless, open source can still retain different subsets or types of copyright owned by the dev, creator, but that is neither here nor there). Many vn's are like this, and many of them show a lot of promise but get abandoned either before their first update or just after, because the Dev either doesn't have enough money, cant get any patrons to help him or her, or they realize just how much work is required to create a vn in the first place, and either didnt realize just how time consuming creating an adult vn is and don't have the time or interest to continue development or they are just starting out and trying to find their feet by experimenting with the tools and assets they have.

Unfortunately in this case, unless permission is given to alter and or change, add new code, renders, animation, it is very unlikely to ever even be touched in the first place, just not worth it in the end.

 

[longjohngold]

I was surprised to see this finished, and in a sea of abandoned games that's an accomplishment, but it does feel rushed.

Spoiler: Also the endings aren't even really that.

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I wonder if there'll be an extension to it later on as I've seen completed games been added to before, maybe fleshing the endings out a bit more, I guess they pushed to get it out by Christmas maybe.

 

[Bloodguard]

Is it really over? I thought last update was supposed to be February. Are we getting epilogues? Game really needs them.
I understand Devs getting burned out, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to half-ass a rushed end for a game and think you will get more support for the next one. I know I won't be supporting the next one unless they properly finish this one first.
Shame, because it had such potential to be a really good game.

 

[ijustwannaCNM]

Any way Victor friend fuck Mom Claudia ??



Icant open all scenes so any1can confirm how to play with Victor NTR with mom Claudia ??

no

 

[dmgab]

Using code Kuma!!! leaves 2 scenes locked. Any fix?

Edit: ok, found it, https://f95zone.to/threads/milky-touch-final-studio-kuma.28224/page-189

 

[harrydogs90]

A very good game, But the ending......WTF, would have been better to start this update with "THE END" and shut down. So much just left hanging, can't support a Dev that does this to a very good game/story.

 

[cleanfeel]

This game had so much potential, what is it with devs creating great MILF assets, build the story up by blue balling and not deliver the finish? I've not met one dev that can finish their game.

The game, especially if developed in RENPY, becomes too bloated due to having too many characters. If a game has to have choices (versus kinetic novel), that adds another level of complexity. Looking at the source code, its obvious that the game is a pain to work with given how many characters, assets, dialog there are. Coupled that with crafting a compelling narrative arc, it becomes a monumental task that is simply not possible to deliver by one person (most likely amateur).

I would say one developer that I've seen that consistently has good performance is The Architect (latest game is this https://f95zone.to/threads/lust-is-stranger-v0-3-4-5-the-architect.70245/). It is evident that The Architect is a single person, but even his games mostly constraints on number of girls.

Finally there's not enough financial incentive minus the big games out there, such as A Wife and Mother and College Kings (that I can think of). But even in those games it's clear that there's a serious problem of bloated content. Developers cram as many fetishes as possible (god knows why), and end up with a unwieldy product that's difficulty to please and to continue.

Like I said in other threads (the netorare one), the good developers work a real job already, maybe even at a big tech company. Those guys make 100k- 350k a year. That's minimum 8300 dollars on Patreon per month. Not only that, but none of the work here can be presented professionally. Nobody who is serious about their future (if they want to work in Google, and make that phat stack), will put "Created Porn Game" on their resume.

So to summarize:
1. Amateur developers
2. Too many characters means too much complexity
3. Mostly unrewarding work
4. No career prospects

On a positive side, there are many Eastern European / Asian developers that don't need to make 8300/ month on Patreon to break even. Russian devs are my favorite personally. My advice for creators is to be better and stop making their games based on Patreon feedback. Patrons wants gay, ntr, trans, futa, loli, romance, corruption and you end up with a piece of crap product. Be like The Architect.

 

[Maverick369]

By the way I just got it confimed that there are indeed three hidden scenes associated with hidden ending. The riley scene and the picture of Claudia in the wedding gown are not the hidden ending.

 

[sharpys]

Rather than say that everything feels rushed towards an arbitrary ending in order to meet a minimum check. I’ll say instead this update merely reached halfway to abandonment then stopped at some point.

 

[Maverick369]

when someone figures out how to get the claudia by herself corruption scene please let me know how to do it. Thanks.

 

[Maverick369]

I think he was losing money to continue the project and at least made some attempt to finish it. However I can't judge the game fully until I can see what the hidden ending is. He indicated that all female characters except rileys mom would have a sex scene in the update. He delivered on everyone except for Shirley that combined with what is being said while MC is having his fun at the mask with claudia alone makes me think that there is some kind of harem ending with claudia, octavia, shirley and either Karen or Kathyrn. That is why Im holding judgement until I get the hidden ending.

 

[Maverick369]

I loved a game called the tyrant that was for lack of a better term abandoned however no one really knows for sure if that is the case. I know pateron was coiming down hard on him. He could have always went to subscribestar.

 

[REGUser]

Did anyone bother to contact the original developer and ask their permission to make alterations to their game? Does the game have any terms and conditions attached to it? Just because a developer doesn't include any terms and conditions to their game, does not necessarily mean they do not have them, if they did not they would have to be insane. Then there is the possible issue of copyright infringement. You cannot just go into someone's game code and alter it without their permission, it would be tied with their terms and conditions it would be in their terms and conditions, prohibiting reverse engineering etc. Just these few things alone, are enough to put anyone off even bothering even with abandoned games, the copyright still belongs to the original developer unless they open source it.

As for the game assets, I don't see any problems there, given people can just copy the assets as you said.

Unless of course there is some sort of agreement in place while something is in development that only the designated people can add, alter or completely change the code..if it became abandoned it would literally become open sourced (but not always, the dev, creator still retains the copyright unless it does become become open sourced, regardless, open source can still retain different subsets or types of copyright owned by the dev, creator, but that is neither here nor there). Many vn's are like this, and many of them show a lot of promise but get abandoned either before their first update or just after, because the Dev either doesn't have enough money, cant get any patrons to help him or her, or they realize just how much work is required to create a vn in the first place, and either didnt realize just how time consuming creating an adult vn is and don't have the time or interest to continue development or they are just starting out and trying to find their feet by experimenting with the tools and assets they have.

Unfortunately in this case, unless permission is given to alter and or change, add new code, renders, animation, it is very unlikely to ever even be touched in the first place, just not worth it in the end.

The rules for copyright are arbitrary at best, whilst work published by the author on the Internet is on a public space, ANYONE can still pick apart the code, material and resources attached inside and remake the game in their own vision even using the same name for the game, just as long as you don't make money off it.

Patreon acts as another barrier whereby they have their own policy, the creator is the owner of their work thus protected by their own pseudo "copyright" protection policy i.e. There can never be 2 Milfy City's of the same name on Patreon as ICSTOR is the original creator, if someone republishes his work as their own, that is considered infringement. This goes for other sites like Subscribestar where if you republish an authors work as your own and attempt to make money off it, they can request to take it down and even fine you through their copyright protection plan. Taking it too court would require so much more work and effort than it is worth.

This seems to be the global standards for published work on the Internet. The way to actually get it in writing is to patent your ideas and assets which will cost you money to do and honestly quite stupid for something like a porn game. Also DAZ has its own marketplace where authors can publish their work to get generate income from it and is also covered by a similar copyright protection policy.

Though attempting to sue someone for using your characters likeness in their video game would again cost you more money than its worth to defend in a legal case. Not too mention most of these devs love to stay anonymous and don't want their face to be associated with their work for obvious reasons.

With all that said...this is the Internet, no one gives a fuck. Someone can pick it up as a passion project and distribute a leak however they want, since once it is out there, it's hard to contain and it just spreads. This should be of no surprise, it's just finding the right person who would do this for free essentially. Not an entire game but just a few scenes.

 

[ahningxue]

bro，you can give us a link ，we'll help you to find the way to get hidden ending .

It is real?

 

[LewdKitten98]

thanks developer for final chapter, merry christmas

 

[Maverick369]

the hidden ending is real. The link for the download in previous postings.