Talos64

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anyone has similar game recommendations
https://f95zone.to/threads/nebel-geisterjaeger-v1-2-bbq-lover.158505/

It's also an NTR game where you can fight back against the NTR and the gameplay follows a daily schedule. It also lets you trigger events without locking you out of the true ending, there is a limit but the margin is pretty generous. You have a lot of control over what you see and how far the NTR progresses. The mechanics are more complex than the one's in Mirage Defection, but once you understand what you are doing it becomes a very enjoyable experience. I'd recommend going in blind and looking up things if you can't figure something out and it starts to annoy you.
 

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https://f95zone.to/threads/nebel-geisterjaeger-v1-2-bbq-lover.158505/

It's also an NTR game where you can fight back against the NTR and the gameplay follows a daily schedule. It also lets you trigger events without locking you out of the true ending, there is a limit but the margin is pretty generous. You have a lot of control over what you see and how far the NTR progresses. The mechanics are more complex than the one's in Mirage Defection, but once you understand what you are doing it becomes a very enjoyable experience. I'd recommend going in blind and looking up things if you can't figure something out and it starts to annoy you.
Good game but lack of progress on ntr. Heroine can suddenly and randomly get fucked anywhere, yeah i know we can prevent that for happening but still..... Wtf. Main story is good. But for ntr route? Nope
 

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Good game but lack of progress on ntr. Heroine can suddenly and randomly get fucked anywhere, yeah i know we can prevent that for happening but still..... Wtf. Main story is good. But for ntr route? Nope
Personally I didn't get that feeling at all. Every event has different versions depending on the heroine's level of corruption. It takes some time before the heroine starts having actual sex with the antagonist, most events at the beginning involve groping or a blowjob. Maybe it's because of the way I played the game but the progression didn't feel too sudden. Maybe what you're referring to is the transition between the early groping events and the sex events. I admit there is no real transition, if the heroine's corruption is above a certain level then it will trigger the advanced version of the event. Considering how the game is structured though, it makes sense. In linear games like Mirage Defection it's easier for the developer to set the pace, but I like the more open approach in Nebel.
 

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Personally I didn't get that feeling at all. Every event has different versions depending on the heroine's level of corruption. It takes some time before the heroine starts having actual sex with the antagonist, most events at the beginning involve groping or a blowjob. Maybe it's because of the way I played the game but the progression didn't feel too sudden. Maybe what you're referring to is the transition between the early groping events and the sex events. I admit there is no real transition, if the heroine's corruption is above a certain level then it will trigger the advanced version of the event. Considering how the game is structured though, it makes sense. In linear games like Mirage Defection it's easier for the developer to set the pace, but I like the more open approach in Nebel.
Nope, i have encounter some moments in early games that she get fucked. I just "nah, this maybe just some grope or what" But no its raped. But like what i said, its random and we don't know when its come. Even when i try to recreat exact scene, i get different than before. I let she get molested in dungeon but she get fuck. I reload before that scene but i got different scene
 

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From the Dev's recent posts, it kind of feels like he's getting burnt out in general.

But apparently, he's been drawing a lot of the CGs in the past few weeks.
I’ve followed his production of the last game and he always talks like how he is now. I promise you don’t let the tone trick you into thinking he’s gonna stall he had a similar tone throughout mirage and still progressed as a similar pace to now.
 

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I’ve followed his production of the last game and he always talks like how he is now. I promise you don’t let the tone trick you into thinking he’s gonna stall he had a similar tone throughout mirage and still progressed as a similar pace to now.
Even if he doesn't stall, it does sound a little concerning. Hopefully it's just the impression the messages give and the dev isn't overworking himself. Releasing games back to back is probably very draining. I don't know if Crypt was his first game, but if it was it's pretty bold that he decided to start with a whole series. I mean, this will be the third game, he already confirmed a fourth and he even mentioned a spin-off with Kotori (I don't know if this was confirmed or if he just mentioned it as a possibility). And technically this is just the beginning since not all characters have been introduced yet, so who knows how many games the dev has "planned" or is planning as he works. If the dev doesn't pace himself properly, I can see him getting burnt out for real. I really like this series and I'm sure that a huge part of it comes from the fact that the dev is passionate about his work, so I don't want that passion to disappear in future games.
 
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That's not a cigar, it's a lipstick! Don't smoke kids!
*That’s not a cigar, it's lipstick. Don't smoke kids.

For Kurone's fans: your favourite Heroine will have an appearance in the new game, but she won't be interacting with Celia or Hayato directly. The developer stated that she'll meet "him" (I assume that's referring to Leo) and you'll control "him" in a small portion of the game.
 
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*That’s not a cigar, it's lipstick! don't smoke kids.

For Kurone's fans: your favourite Heroine will have appearance in the new game but she won't won't be interacting with Celia nor Hayato directly. The developer stated that she'll meet "him" (I assume that's referring to Leo) and you'll control "him" in a small portion of the game.
i doubt if its leo, because he is going to capital with kotori. well he can do that, but doesn't that too fast? i mean he gonna face the government, right? that's not gonna be short period, unless there is something that force him to go back.

i assume kurone will meet sadi. because she need to make report and sadi not dead yet, just have big injuries.
 

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i doubt if its leo, because he is going to capital with kotori. well he can do that, but doesn't that too fast? i mean he gonna face the government, right? that's not gonna be short period, unless there is something that force him to go back.

i assume kurone will meet sadi. because she need to make report and sadi not dead yet, just have big injuries.
I doubt she's meeting with Sadi, like the dude is injured and defenitly not capable of getting intimate, and I don't think the developer will put a scene with Kurone just for her to report to him, even in the demo Meyrl told Kurone to take it easy until Sadi is back on the line so they're basically on vacation for now. So she's free to do whatever she likes at this moment, and what does she like? Messing with Leo, anyway, if you're saying that they're far away from each other, doesn't the demon army have portals to teleport them to wherever they want? I don't think it's going to be a problem in that case (sorry if that's not what you're saying, I didn't fully understood your comment)
 

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I doubt she's meeting with Sadi, like the dude is injured and defenitly not capable of getting intimate, and I don't think the developer will put a scene with Kurone just for her to report to him, even in the demo Meyrl told Kurone to take it easy until Sadi is back on the line so they're basically on vacation for now. So she's free to do whatever she likes at this moment, and what does she like? Messing with Leo, anyway, if you're saying that they're far away from each other, doesn't the demon army have portals to teleport them to wherever they want? I don't think it's going to be a problem in that case (sorry if that's not what you're saying, I didn't fully understood your comment)
You catch what i'm saying, that's good.

Yeah, you right. mirage and crypt event are happen in same time. So yeah when kurone back to the city, said is still get injured but that doesn't mean they can't meet sadi so there's a chance kurone meet sadi to make a report, even though it just small chance its gonna happen.

For Leo's case. what i mean is Leo and Kotori facing government will not gonna easy and thats gonna take a long time. not how far their distance. if leo and kotori who supposed facing government come to celia city (shit i forget the name), doesn't that mean something happens to them in middle of their mission? because like what i said, facing government is not easy and takes a long time. or maybe there is trouble in middle of their journey. or maybe something bad gonna happen to celia, hayato, and luna so they abort their mission to come to celia city.


i'm sorry for my bad English
 

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I really like how this developer adds small quality of life improvements with each new game. It shows he wants to make each one better than the last. The improvement I would like to see the most is a more fleshed out choice system. Mirage Defection gives you the illusion of choice, but it all comes crumbling down when you realize that every scene is self-contained and is not affected by earlier choices. The scenes themselves are great, but it doesn't feel like I earned them. NTR is all about corruption and escalation, it feels weird if you can avoid every corruption scene but still choose the NTR ending. The developer is clearly aware of this, since the game warns you it might not make sense based on your decisions, so I hope he is working on it.
 
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