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I know Luna's fans will be mad at me for saying this but: for someone who got tricked into a lewd contract by a pathetic shrimp who isn't nearly on Meryl's level, she's really talking a lot of $h!t.
Also very good news: a lot of the features that the developer has giving up on presenting in the new game due technical issues which was around 20% of his work, has been resolved and he can carry these features to the game smoothly!
Thats crazy. Is that in new demo version? I couldnt find that scene :eek:
 

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I think Luna's attitude makes sense considering that canonically, she refused all of Iveiru's temptations after signing the contract and ended up killing him. Meryl went after a much weaker target with Hayato and even then only had questionable results (Since the dev seems to have backtracked on Meryl successfully corrupting Hayato in the first game to make the relationship between them more ambiguous for the sequel).
2 points I would like to highlight here:
1- while Luna repelled Iveru at the end his influence on her seems to linger on as mentioned by the developer, which led us to believe that the contract he made with her has progressed to some extent just like Hayato has with Meryl, speaking of Meryl, she didn't forcefully seduced Hayato (at least not at beginning) as she wanted him to desire her from his own free will and she played him in the palm of hand easily throughout the game while we as players has little to no choice other than seeing him being toyed by her unlike Celia who had the choice to resist Sadi's advances, not to mention that it only took Meryl to completely dominate Hayato is him having sex with her just 1 time while Kurone and Iveru have no such feat at all which make her a terrifying enemy, I think the only reason managed to resist her at the end when she stopped playing nice is the bond between him and Celia. Realistically speaking, Hayato and Celia couldn't have won this, Sadi and Meryl has successfully manipulated and swayed countless people before and they had prep time as well, it is baffling that with all of this on their side they couldn't take down Celia and Hayato, I'd like to think that they were overconfident in thier victory and simply wanted to slowly corrupt the 2 innocent youngsters which led to their defeat.
2- if Leo didn't resist Kurone's temptation at the end, Luna would've ended up as Iveru slave just as seen in the bad ending, so it's not like she held her own very well.
She underestimated Iveru which is how he got an in.
You see my friend, this IS the problem, Luna made a big mistake by underestimating Iveru and it put her in a very vulnerable position, and she almost got enslaved by him for real, so what did she learn from this experience as seen in her interaction with Meryl? nothing, she simply looks down on her calling her a small fry while she forgot how she was almost taken down by a similar opponent last time, it's one thing that she made a mistake, but repeating it over again is a plain stupidity.
 

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Thats crazy. Is that in new demo version? I couldnt find that scene :eek:
no, It's from the developer's article update this week.
As for the next demo the developer stated this:
"We're currently working hard to release the trial version 0.2.0.
I think we'll probably release it suddenly in an article somewhere without any prior notice.
It'll be fine if only those who follow the articles get to play it first."
 
 

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no, It's from the developer's article update this week.
As for the next demo the developer stated this:
"We're currently working hard to release the trial version 0.2.0.
I think we'll probably release it suddenly in an article somewhere without any prior notice.
It'll be fine if only those who follow the articles get to play it first."
 
In my opinion you guys should , wait for the full release so you can enjoy 100% of the game in one go instead of playing 10% each demo
 
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Sorry, I don't speak Japanese so I didn't know that's what everyone was referring about. You're right, she should not underestimate them now. Especially since a plot point of the new game is the after effects of subjugation.
 
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Sorry, I don't speak Japanese so I didn't know that's what everyone was referring about. You're right, she should not underestimate them now. Especially since a plot point of the new game is the after effects of subjugation.
tbh everyone would have underestimated that little demon . Imagine you are a professional ninja girl who's been trained for years . And a little gober is saying that he will beat you :FacePalm:
 

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tbh everyone would have underestimated that little demon . Imagine you are a professional ninja girl who's been trained for years . And a little gober is saying that he will beat you :FacePalm:
Well hes an Imp monster but he didnt say ill beat you he said she will be his. He didnt want to beat Luna he wanted to enslave her as his subordinate and with her having mirage shes almost unbeatable. But her main weakness is always the weakness of those she protects. If it wasnt for Leo shouldn't have gotten cursed and if it wasnt for Iviel she wouldn't have gotten incinerated by Kurone tryna protect him in one of the bad endings. So if she wasnt always trying to protect someone she would be almost unbeatable.
 

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The next game is only 50% done? And here I thought it will be released early next year like February.
 

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2 points I would like to highlight here:
1- while Luna repelled Iveru at the end his influence on her seems to linger on as mentioned by the developer, which led us to believe that the contract he made with her has progressed to some extent just like Hayato has with Meryl, speaking of Meryl, she didn't forcefully seduced Hayato (at least not at beginning) as she wanted him to desire her from his own free will and she played him in the palm of hand easily throughout the game while we as players has little to no choice other than seeing him being toyed by her unlike Celia who had the choice to resist Sadi's advances, not to mention that it only took Meryl to completely dominate Hayato is him having sex with her just 1 time while Kurone and Iveru have no such feat at all which make her a terrifying enemy, I think the only reason managed to resist her at the end when she stopped playing nice is the bond between him and Celia. Realistically speaking, Hayato and Celia couldn't have won this, Sadi and Meryl has successfully manipulated and swayed countless people before and they had prep time as well, it is baffling that with all of this on their side they couldn't take down Celia and Hayato, I'd like to think that they were overconfident in thier victory and simply wanted to slowly corrupt the 2 innocent youngsters which led to their defeat.
2- if Leo didn't resist Kurone's temptation at the end, Luna would've ended up as Iveru slave just as seen in the bad ending, so it's not like she held her own very well.
To address point 2 first, Luna doesn't know that she would've fallen. From her perspective, she overcame Iveiru's traps with her love for Leo and then killed Iveiru, so it makes sense she'd talk a big game when confronted by another lewd demonic threat. We also don't know right now if Luna has been dealing with Iveiru's influence ever since their confrontation, or if Meryl reawakens it in an effort to deal with Luna since Meryl would lose in a direct fight. In the second case Luna might've thought she wasn't suffering any lingering effects until now, which would also bolster her confidence.

As for whether or not Sadi and Meryl should've won, they didn't, so that's a moot point. The dev seems to be doing the typical thing with NTR games that get a direct sequel by walking back whatever NTR happened in the previous game since if the NTR was successful, there wouldn't be a sequel at all. So Meryl went from successfully corrupting Hayato to only having established some level of influence over him that the player will be free to indulge or deny. I would guess the canon end for this game will also see Meryl unsuccessful yet again, but we'll have to wait and see.
 

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The next game is only 50% done? And here I thought it will be released early next year like February.
I allways hear people complaining about the release dates for games . Making a game isn't instant , it's not easy and stuff .
I recommend you to play other games , Personally I just stop posting in the thread so I can "forget" about the game .
Your lucky that it's not a Tower Of Trample ahhhh update
 

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I allways hear people complaining about the release dates for games . Making a game isn't instant , it's not easy and stuff .
I recommend you to play other games , Personally I just stop posting in the thread so I can "forget" about the game .
Your lucky that it's not a Tower Of Trample ahhhh update
- Crypt and Mirage were released 23 and 24, so another year and a half would be appropriate.
- The third game isn't as high production as Mirage and is more restricted and basic like Crypt.
- The engine, lore and character models are already established in the first two games, so the third game has less new stuff to invent. Its the old cast, the only new character seems to be the corrupter for Celina, and he won't get many sprites, since the focus in these scenes is always on the girls.
- This is a me problem, but I recall that it was mentioned either here, on dlsite or the ci-en page that the game comes February 26, which isn't too much and not to little away from the second game.
 

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- Crypt and Mirage were released 23 and 24, so another year and a half would be appropriate.
- The third game isn't as high production as Mirage and is more restricted and basic like Crypt.
- The engine, lore and character models are already established in the first two games, so the third game has less new stuff to invent. Its the old cast, the only new character seems to be the corrupter for Celina, and he won't get many sprites, since the focus in these scenes is always on the girls.
- This is a me problem, but I recall that it was mentioned either here, on dlsite or the ci-en page that the game comes February 26, which isn't too much and not to little away from the second game.
rly ? They use the same assests ? (din't try the demo)
 

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rly ? They use the same assests ? (din't try the demo)
While it'll definitely carry a lot from the previous 2 games, crypt 1.5 is by no means a small project, while it started as that, the developer added a lot to it and confirmed at some point that it'll be larger scale project than the first game, Meryl got herself new sprites and same case with Celia, Hayato now has now sprites instead of being a faceless protagonist, a lot of elements were added to the game such as the excitement meter and the ejaculating gauge, voice over for the girls in the h scenes and such. The game might not be as big as the second one but it'll add a lot of elements to it.
 
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I allways hear people complaining about the release dates for games . Making a game isn't instant , it's not easy and stuff .
I recommend you to play other games , Personally I just stop posting in the thread so I can "forget" about the game .
Your lucky that it's not a Tower Of Trample ahhhh update
Issue is that this is the only game that does NTR how I like it, so there is no other games. I'd consider this a niche sub-genre. Guy knows how to write and set up believable scenarios and to stretch seduction slowly.

Other NTR games go from 0 to 100 in an instant. They're also disgusting to watch because they make the guy so ugly he detracts from the whole thing. Here both Iveru and Sadi are drawn simply, and the focus is on the girl, so NTR can be enjoyed.

There's also the believability of the seduction. I just can't believe the sexual skills of the most disgusting looking man are making a hot girl fall for him. She'd be dry as a desert. Here both Celia and Luna are disgusted by the demons and slowly through demonic magic do they get used to it and start being attracted to them.
 

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Issue is that this is the only game that does NTR how I like it, so there is no other games. I'd consider this a niche sub-genre. Guy knows how to write and set up believable scenarios and to stretch seduction slowly.

Other NTR games go from 0 to 100 in an instant. They're also disgusting to watch because they make the guy so ugly he detracts from the whole thing. Here both Iveru and Sadi are drawn simply, and the focus is on the girl, so NTR can be enjoyed.

There's also the believability of the seduction. I just can't believe the sexual skills of the most disgusting looking man are making a hot girl fall for him. She'd be dry as a desert. Here both Celia and Luna are disgusted by the demons and slowly through demonic magic do they get used to it and start being attracted to them.
fr , most of them are just 3d ugly renpy's .
But it's notby edging yourself on the new demo release date that it will make the experience better .
I prefer to wait until the game fully release
 

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As for whether or not Sadi and Meryl should've won, they didn't, so that's a moot point. The dev seems to be doing the typical thing with NTR games that get a direct sequel by walking back whatever NTR happened in the previous game since if the NTR was successful, there wouldn't be a sequel at all. So Meryl went from successfully corrupting Hayato to only having established some level of influence over him that the player will be free to indulge or deny. I would guess the canon end for this game will also see Meryl unsuccessful yet again, but we'll have to wait and see.
I don't agree with you on the whole "having to walk back whatever NTR happened" point. In both games, the true ending makes sense even after some amount of corruption, the characters can have a moment of weakness but still come out on top in the end. I actually prefer the idea of Hayato giving in at first, but later coming to his senses and doing the right thing. It makes him a better character, one that has flaws but is able to grow and learn from his mistakes. Also, if the NTR progress is reset after each game, every entry would just be a repeat of the last. I would like to see some escalation, instead of the same pattern of masturbation, handjob, blowjob, etc. I was actually surprised to find out that the dev walked back a lot of the corruption for the canon, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
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