Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v26.8 Alpha] [Threshold]

[Justanotherandomdood]

You must be registered to see the links

here's an older version of the page that still has the instructions for using the modloader

 

[Hhhhhhshshsnz]

Followed what it said, still not working sadly.

 

[Volta]

I'd personally love to make a mod for this game. I love to write. Only problem is that without art it'd feel lackluster to me personally XD

I know exactly what you mean, i'm in a similar position, i was thinking about pillaging art from another game and crediting it, i wonder what people would think of that since it would be just a mod, the downside is that i could bring trouble to Thresh's door that way so i'm dubious.

 

[Valentin Cognito]

I know exactly what you mean, i'm in a similar position, i was thinking about pillaging art from another game and crediting it, i wonder what people would think of that since it would be just a mod, the downside is that i could bring trouble to Thresh's door that way so i'm dubious.

Using licensed media is not a problem, as long as you give proper credit. Unlike MGD itself, a mod is a fanmade piece you don't make any money out of, so Threshold won't get in trouble even if you used licensed assets. For example, back when she was a mod, Gren used music from Seiken Densetsu 3!

Of course, using original or royalty-free assets is more professional, but you certainly shouldn't feel like it's a requirement.

 

[Anarchistic]

Thank you all for the kinds words of support and the links, especially Valentin Cognito who roused me to really put forth some effort into figuring out how the heck Renpy works behind the scenes as well as how to make mods for this game. I understand fully that the bigger and larger scale the idea, the longer it will take, but I have a firm grasp of this idea I've had boiling around in my head for quite some time, a few months even. It'll probably take me that amount of time to finish her, but I really want to explore this idea and make it a reality especially seeing how good of a work someone like Kotone can be with enough time and effort and someone like Mari (who I hope and pray every day gets even more content) as a mod can be with just the writing and character alone. The art helps a lot sure (because hoo boy Mari is great), but I hope that at least for now my writing skills can paint a clear enough picture until I can get decent visuals to go along with it.

Anyway, here's my idea. I'll probably join the Discord some time this week once I get more personally settled in my real life for some more support

Spoiler: My Mod Idea

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Looking forward to reading comments! If mod discussion isn't allowed here, I'll move to the Discord if it's allowed there later this week. I wouldn't want to step on toes.

 

[doomgal]

Uhh... so if I understood that correctly you want an opinion on what parts of the game the players consider to be "stellar writing" to help you make a mod? I AM a big fan of the mods for this game and I have all the playable mods downloaded so I don't mind providing my own opinion.

The most important thing would probably be that it's not one specific part that is a good piece of literature, but rather the whole area or even the story itself is interconnected, always leaving you guessing about the next place you're gonna go. I've already drawn up countless scenarios in my head for the demon city and even the witch coven.

What I personally like most about this game is just how good the characters are fleshed out. They feel so real unlike most other femdom games where the woman just goes "haha step step"

Also, there's alot of variety in how to get the h-scenes. You can lose, you can win, you don't need to fight, you can take a walk, heck you could go to sleep.

Yeah, I want to know what people would consider stellar writing in both this game or any other game to help me out with inspiration for my own writing. For example I read CoC massage scene in the Bazaar, CoCXiana mod massage scene with Farmgirl, TiTS catgirl massage, and MGD Beachmod scylla massage for research purposes. I do wish for any and all opinions on what writing is considered good but I think the main one is to write believable characters if I'm understanding what's been written so far.

It's a little difficult for me to really give any decent examples of quality writing that can be matched 1-1 with a medium like Monster Girl Dreams (largely since MGD is currently the best one I've actually found so far in its niche), but I think I can provide a few examples worth studying.



Since this game is text-based and thus reads/plays more like a highly interactive Visual Novel than anything else, I'd recommend looking in that direction for inspiration and getting a general idea on how to write "choice based" smut. Keep in mind however that VNs, as their name suggests, are a bit more like books. The big ones have hours of content for you to read, since they need time to establish a setting and characters and all that jazz. MGD's stuff tends to be more bite-sized and is given through player interaction, instead of being fed to you like in a typical story. The most text-heavy character is probably Kotone, and the overall design of the experience is vastly different from actually straight-up reading a book. It's more like a CYOA/Quest than anything else, to be perfectly honest; a type of interactive story where you read stuff, make choices, and read more stuff based on those choices.



So yeah. Quests. Look into those; you'll find them all over the place on different forums. When it comes to smut, I use Questionable Questing. When it comes to just wanting to read regular content, Spacebattles or Sufficient Velocity, though that isn't to say that there aren't plot-heavy porn quests on QQ.

However, that's still way more text in-between choices than most - if not all - characters in MGD. You'll honestly have to figure out what a good balance feels like on your own; how long you should write for in each section, how in-depth these interactions should be, how to set up and atmosphere... there's all kinds of fine work and quality control, which you can only really check once you show it to someone else/have enough skill to make good judgement calls on the matter. If you do end up making a mod, I'd be more than happy to write a review on it. Just tell me if you want me to be completely and utterly scathing or more light-hearted in tone, either way is fine with me.



To simplify; right off the top of my head (there's probably more you've got to take into consideration than this, keep that in mind), here are some things you've gotta look out for:

Spoiler: Spoilered for Length

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

All this is written assuming that you want a big, expansive mod/character; someone that would have as much depth as... let's use Kotone, or maybe even Sofia, as a benchmark. It's pretty daunting, but please don't feel pressured to write something like that. The most important thing is to enjoy yourself in the process. If you aren't happy writing it, what makes you think the audience will be happy playing it? It's that kind of sentiment. So yeah, bottom line, just write what you enjoy!

I'm very thankful and appreciate all this advice. I will take a look at all those games as it never hurts to see how others who are writing go about it. As for reviewing I would love to have you or anyone else who would like to review it when I finally get done with it. As for tone feel free to be as scathing as possible since I think constructive criticism with little to no sugar coating is how best to let others know how good or bad something is. I'd rather you just be honest instead of lighthearted because if it's good, good, but if it's bad I'd like to know exactly what makes you feel that way so I can work on it to improve my writing skills.

Spoiler: Spoiler Stuff

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

As for the writing a big overarching character is kinda what I want to do just because I like MGD but I do always have questions that I wanted answered and so making my own mod to do that just seems appropriate. I always enjoyed asking the annoying questions that bring up debates so hopefully I'll manage to spark some interest.


Now the most difficult part, bringing this back around to the base game MGD......

JORA BEST DRAGON GIRL! Damn, I'm good at this sometimes!

CHEERS ALL!

 

[decker2]

Looking forward to reading comments! If mod discussion isn't allowed here, I'll move to the Discord if it's allowed there later this week. I wouldn't want to step on toes.

i think the discord is the best place to talk about mods and stuff
otherwise this thread gets filled with text walls
or at least put the modding post in spoilers...

 

[Hhhhhhshshsnz]

Thank you all for the kinds words of support and the links, especially Valentin Cognito who roused me to really put forth some effort into figuring out how the heck Renpy works behind the scenes as well as how to make mods for this game. I understand fully that the bigger and larger scale the idea, the longer it will take, but I have a firm grasp of this idea I've had boiling around in my head for quite some time, a few months even. It'll probably take me that amount of time to finish her, but I really want to explore this idea and make it a reality especially seeing how good of a work someone like Kotone can be with enough time and effort and someone like Mari (who I hope and pray every day gets even more content) as a mod can be with just the writing and character alone. The art helps a lot sure (because hoo boy Mari is great), but I hope that at least for now my writing skills can paint a clear enough picture until I can get decent visuals to go along with it.

Anyway, here's my idea. I'll probably join the Discord some time this week once I get more personally settled in my real life for some more support

Spoiler: My Mod Idea

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Looking forward to reading comments! If mod discussion isn't allowed here, I'll move to the Discord if it's allowed there later this week. I wouldn't want to step on toes.

Bro. This is AMAZING! I'd rate it a 20/10! I always did feel that MGD was lacking an actual queen/domme type girl. All the girls are wholesome at the end of the day, which isn't bad but I kinda wished there was at least one whom you could fully submit to. More servant than lover if you know what I mean. I'm looking forward to your work and take your time to make it the best it can be

 

[sandsea_urchin]

Using licensed media is not a problem, as long as you give proper credit.

I second this; to be sure, add in a readme with the due credits, and a line like "Please contact me if you own this image and would like it removed".
That said, there would still be a need for facial expressions layers, etc. if one would like to take full advantage of MGD's features.

Yeah, I want to know what people would consider stellar writing
JORA BEST DRAGON GIRL!

Simple: write something, anything, and face the merciless Internet critics. Who knows, maybe a few can give you good feedback, tell you what's wrong/right. Or even, be enthusiastic and give you a hand with the modding itself, who knows?
edit: ah, and it's not really wise to try and copy a style; just write the scenes you envision, the way you feel like it. If you suck (like I do) you'll know soon enough
PS: Jora, only Dragon girl in the game still a chill girl to hang out with when she keeps her tail in her...pants?

 

[Anarchistic]

i think the discord is the best place to talk about mods and stuff
otherwise this thread gets filled with text walls
or at least put the modding post in spoilers...

The major bulk of the idea is in Spoilers tho lol

 

[Anarchistic]

Bro. This is AMAZING! I'd rate it a 20/10! I always did feel that MGD was lacking an actual queen/domme type girl. All the girls are wholesome at the end of the day, which isn't bad but I kinda wished there was at least one whom you could fully submit to. More servant than lover if you know what I mean. I'm looking forward to your work and take your time to make it the best it can be

Thank you! I appreciate it! I wouldn't rule out any wholesome moments with her or any other of MGD's elements. All of the current girls don't seem malicious so you can bet there's more to how she acts and her reasons for doing so. Although, make no mistake that she IS a total dom of a woman and I hope I can write her well to portray her as someone the character can wholeheartedly submit to.

 

[Valentin Cognito]

That sounds like quite the ambitious project, Anarchistic! Far be it from me to discourage you from putting your ideas into practice, but as far as modding is concerned, I'd recommend starting small. Like, instead of writing Dola's content all at once, do something short first, like a standalone scene, and see if you're comfortable with that. Then proceed step by step, and ultimately, you'll have a mod! What I mean is don't try to build big castles in the sky right off the bat. I know that some modders have been discouraged or thwarted by overly ambitious projects, so... take it slow! Combat in particular can be a tough beast, notably if you want to include unique or in-depth combat mechanics.

There seems to be a minor grammar-hiccup in Vilis Titfuck content. - (more you more you) - At the end of one text box.

Typos are unfortunately far from rare! But Threshold is always careful to take reports into account and fix files accordingly.

Another thing would be about Sofia (although I don't know if it was intended or not):
In all of her fights up to fight 3 phase 2, you are able restrain (Magical Binding/Pin) and Holy Headpat/Demon Layer her into submission, - without facing any repercussions. No one-shot after headpatting her once, no warnings after attacking her with Demon Layer, nothing. - (As long as she is restrained, that is. After breaking free it's all back to normal.)

This is intended. Sofia won't react to holy attacks if she's Restrained or Asleep.

Yet another one would be about the Elly/Venefica mission/quest:
As of V23.4 you are able to visit Elly at night and help her out, - given you have enough affection with her.
Now, I am not sure if it is strictly after gaining access to her that triggers it (sadly I noticed it too late, and had no save ready to make sure), but after accepting the initial Mushroom Investigation and meeting Elly in the forest, I decided to go back to town and leave Veneficas content for later. - I never met her. Yet, Elly, the next time I visit her at night, will ask me what I think about her.

Ah, looks like the flag that sets Elly's convo is a bit premature, then. Threshold will look into that and might move it to make more sense.

...Although... does anyone of you have any information regarding other male Characters/Adventurers? - Not the sexual kind. Just someone our hero can meet along the way, be it a fellow adventurer or a retired older one with a (monster?) family.
Might just be a really sweet and versatile thing to add.

Other male adventurers are a thing for sure, but Threshold doesn't intend to have any featured as anything else than background characters. Modders have formulated ideas in that regard, but so far, Dean (from Waifupocalypse) is the only existing male character out of the entire existing MGD content.

Featuring helpful, fun, or wholesome content with male adventurers would certainly be welcome, though!

Glad you've been enjoying the game! It's a goodun' indeed.

 

[Hhhhhhshshsnz]

That sounds like quite the ambitious project, Anarchistic! Far be it from me to discourage you from putting your ideas into practice, but as far as modding is concerned, I'd recommend starting small. Like, instead of writing Dola's content all at once, do something short first, like a standalone scene, and see if you're comfortable with that. Then proceed step by step, and ultimately, you'll have a mod! What I mean is don't try to build big castles in the sky right off the bat. I know that some modders have been discouraged or thwarted by overly ambitious projects, so... take it slow! Combat in particular can be a tough beast, notably if you want to include unique or in-depth combat mechanics.


Typos are unfortunately far from rare! But Threshold is always careful to take reports into account and fix files accordingly.


This is intended. Sofia won't react to holy attacks if she's Restrained or Asleep.


Ah, looks like the flag that sets Elly's convo is a bit premature, then. Threshold will look into that and might move it to make more sense.


Other male adventurers are a thing for sure, but Threshold doesn't intend to have any featured as anything else than background characters. Modders have formulated ideas in that regard, but so far, Dean (from Waifupocalypse) is the only existing male character out of the entire existing MGD content.

Featuring helpful, fun, or wholesome content with male adventurers would certainly be welcome, though!

Glad you've been enjoying the game! It's a goodun' indeed.

Speaking of Dean, what does he do exactly? Just give you skills? He talked about a possible new quest which got me excited and then nothing happened

 

[Valentin Cognito]

Yup, Dean only gives you Skills and banter. Cryswar, the mod's author, had other plans for him, but they fell through when he quit modding.

 

[Anarchistic]

That sounds like quite the ambitious project, Anarchistic! Far be it from me to discourage you from putting your ideas into practice, but as far as modding is concerned, I'd recommend starting small. Like, instead of writing Dola's content all at once, do something short first, like a standalone scene, and see if you're comfortable with that. Then proceed step by step, and ultimately, you'll have a mod! What I mean is don't try to build big castles in the sky right off the bat. I know that some modders have been discouraged or thwarted by overly ambitious projects, so... take it slow! Combat in particular can be a tough beast, notably if you want to include unique or in-depth combat mechanics.

Noted. And don't worry, I didn't plan to write the entire mod at once. I was actually considering doing her entire mod in parts. The first part would be what i told you thus far. Story wise, it would make sense to do it in parts, but as to why I won't say :3

Perhaps to test how to actually make a mod I may do a small one first while working on Dola on the side. I'll explore and bit and see what I decide, but thank you again for the support. Stepping into a brand new realm of things is making me anxious, but in a good way. I'll be sure to keep everyone updated.

 

[Kaftein]

Just realized I had a typo:

They're 100% applicable to MGD, but they're definitely good enough to be worth studying on their own, if only to get ideas for your own writing.

This should be "they're not 100% applicable," sorry if there's any confusion doomgal !

 

[Master of Puppets]

ThresholdMGD found a couple of cosmetic bugs with Shizu's fight; first she keeps putting her mask back on while giving a blowjob, that can't be right. Second a corner case where if you hit her with an attack that eliminates one or both of her clones, she hits you with her foot attack in the same turn, and it's enough to finish you off:

Here you can see her two clones have faded away, she has yet to summon more, but they are apparently joining in on this move.

 

[Dr. PuPu]

some new Jora content

That is a very pleasant surprise!

 

[Valentin Cognito]

This has actually been previously reported and elucidated, Nevart. The cause is an event that gives you +50.000 holy power points whenever you talk with Lucille. It's a playtesting thing that Threshold forgot to remove.

It will be solved with the next update. Thanks for reporting it!

Dr. PuPu Big noodle da best.

 

[Deleted member 1915650]

For anyone having problems with the Church relating to blessings and holy power gaining at a rapid pace, you can circumvent it with the attached file, simply place it in game/Json/Events/Town/Church/, and overwrite.

Use the following three lines via the

You must be registered to see the links

to fix your build, then save. This does mean you'd have to progress by hand again, but, you can also use the console to gain any lost progress too.

ProgressEvent[getFromName("Pray to the Goddess Statue.", EventDatabase)].eventProgress = 0
player.giveOrTakePerk(Blessing Of Venereae", -1)
ProgressEvent[getFromName("Pray to the Goddess Statue.", EventDatabase)].choices = []

100 eventProgress would be the incredibly minor blessing, 1000 very minor, 5000 minor, 10000 full blessing and shop unlock. *From there on, eventProgress is used as holy points for the shop.

*On the topic of modding here, I discourage forcing yourself to start small. Make what you want, a majority of modders got in making their first fight that they wanted to make, both big and small fights alike. What's most important is that you're motivated to see it through, that means both amping up an ambition when it's too small and bringing down an ambition when it's too big. Only you would know what's right for you.