Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v26.8 Alpha] [Threshold]

[ankhtar]

I wonder how exactly the guild gets away with either straight up not telling people about the debt they incur, or how our character was dumb enough not to look it up.

It's been a while since I've gone through the starting portion of the game, but isn't the MC surprised at the fact he was in debt to begin with when they tell him about it? I would imagine they just don't tell anyone. Suddenly people are called to this remote, far from everything island in the ass end of nowhere to deal with the whole demon queen thing and (I imagine) not permitted to leave until their debt is paid, so the guild can pretty much charge any amount at that point. That, coupled with the fact we're told the casino enslaves people who fall in debt with it, most dudes end up "married off to some elven slut" (this, or something similar, is said by... Amber? The sex toy lady.) and women can straight up turn into monster girls themselves (Catherine being an example), I don't think many humans are leaving that island alive. Or sane. It's the perfect scam.

For an institution of any kind to be pulling that off without repercussions that we know of, I guess they must have some pull with the authorities. Or they're in cahoots with the demon queen to begin with, I remember reading about that conspiracy theory before. Getting Shadowrun vibes here, lol.

Am I thinking way too hard into the lore of a lighhearted porn game again?

Isn't that why we play? The lewds are obviously secondary.
Yep. Obviously.

 

[fanboi]

Isn't that why we play? The lewds are obviously secondary.
Yep. Obviously.

Duh! This is a serious RPG and a serious quest we're on! I for one certainly would never, ever even consider for a single moment letting the enemies in this game attack and grapple me for some sick, perverted reason, no sirree...

 

[MadFoole]

That raises another point, maybe more of a question depending on the exact hows and whys of it. I wonder how exactly the guild gets away with either straight up not telling people about the debt they incur, or how our character was dumb enough not to look it up. The scenario I'm imagining smacks of the weird casual dystopian worldbuilding you see in certain anime and manga where institutions get away with shit that'd get them buried in lawsuits and arrested in any sane world.

Does the guild actually have enough legal or defacto power that they can lie to people to effectively enslave them? Was our character coming off of one hell of a bender when we signed up and just forgot? Am I thinking way too hard into the lore of a lighhearted porn game again?

As someone with a BA in Modern Literature from the University of California system, I can tell you that this particular plot point (Oh BTW you owe us more money than you can hope to make in a short time even with your new credentials) was ENTIRELY plausible.

Go on YouTube and search "Adam Ruins Student Loans." They're a fully legal scam to suck students that don't come from wealth dry, and not in the fun way that the ladies of MGD do.

 

[decker2]

To be fair, if I had spent years training in any form of martial art, only to reach my next destination and be told "oh sorry, that's all useless here, we only battle by sex. Also, you owe us an ungodly amount of money for it anyway." while they hit me with the Kanye shrug, I don't think I'd get over it either, lol.

That raises another point, maybe more of a question depending on the exact hows and whys of it. I wonder how exactly the guild gets away with either straight up not telling people about the debt they incur, or how our character was dumb enough not to look it up. The scenario I'm imagining smacks of the weird casual dystopian worldbuilding you see in certain anime and manga where institutions get away with shit that'd get them buried in lawsuits and arrested in any sane world.

you guys forget something really important here
being on this magical island has many advantage:
most of all the mc life is protected from all harm means he becomes immortal
he also gets to fuck, romance and head pad, the most powerful (and dangerous)
monster in the world (sovia, kotone, venefica also the fucking demon queen)
even meets with angels and later (hopefully) the goddess venerea herself also head patting them

he gets to life a dream what price tag would you put on all these benefits?
i think getting access to this island is like hitting jackpot in lotto big time really big time

if i would live in that world i sell my soul in to slavery to live on that island
so i can head pad vili while getting titfucked

 

[Duke Greene]

MC absolutely can die. He almost gets soul-sucked to death by Catherine and if Sofia was in any way willing to kill him there's nothing anybody could do about it.

 

[sandsea_urchin]

so i can head pad vili while getting titfucked

Better yet, we need a Kappa girl, kappa.
They have a bowl on their head, where you can arrange your beer and remote, while they're doing their job.
(joking, don't call the feminazi SWAT on me )

 

[decker2]

MC absolutely can die. He almost gets soul-sucked to death by Catherine and if Sofia was in any way willing to kill him there's nothing anybody could do about it.

ok that protection is not perfect
but succubus are the only ones that can bypass it
by sucking out the soul with pleasure

but i think even then the mc would be still alive
he just lives one inside the succubus like a ghost or something
i think

 

[littleowen]

That raises another point, maybe more of a question depending on the exact hows and whys of it. I wonder how exactly the guild gets away with either straight up not telling people about the debt they incur, or how our character was dumb enough not to look it up. The scenario I'm imagining smacks of the weird casual dystopian worldbuilding you see in certain anime and manga where institutions get away with shit that'd get them buried in lawsuits and arrested in any sane world.

Does the guild actually have enough legal or defacto power that they can lie to people to effectively enslave them? Was our character coming off of one hell of a bender when we signed up and just forgot? Am I thinking way too hard into the lore of a lighhearted porn game again?

I said it before and ill say it again! this is all a charade between the two kingdoms to extend the period of peace by sending people to the monster queen kingdom to increase the rate at which they produce money (that as far as i remember was created by sex) that is used to establish a capitalistic society where roles/jobs are defined and organiced and amenities/services established to unify the most unruly/wild monstergirls species bringing stability to the country while also normalizing the concept of interspecies relationships between the kingdoms to dissuade future conflicts so that the problem then is not so black and white as monster bad, humans good and vice versa.

Everything in the is going great so why create and organize (with the queen and the citizens blessing no less) a system designed to guide the adventurers that are there with no objective other that to bring down the sistem? They know you will not succeed! sooner or later you will face insurmountable opposition or your conviction to defeat the queen will fail and you will settle down and become part of the stratagem. We are all being played like a fiddle people!

There is too much bad blood between the two kingdoms, specially because some of the affected parties are still around so the only path to peace needs to be more subtle than open and proactive declarations and actions. And if we ever reach the queen and ask "what the hell is going on?" our fate will be sealed, we will never see home again.

I had way too much fun writing this and after reading it again i actually believe myself

 

[Hhhhhhshshsnz]

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I said it before and ill say it again! this is all a charade between the two kingdoms to extend the period of peace by sending people to the monster queen kingdom to increase the rate at which they produce money (that as far as i remember was created by sex) that is used to establish a capitalistic society where roles/jobs are defined and organiced and amenities/services established to unify the most unruly/wild monstergirls species bringing stability to the country while also normalizing the concept of interspecies relationships between the kingdoms to dissuade future conflicts so that the problem then is not so black and white as monster bad, humans good and vice versa.

Everything in the is going great so why create and organize (with the queen and the citizens blessing no less) a system designed to guide the adventurers that are there with no objective other that to bring down the sistem? They know you will not succeed! sooner or later you will face insurmountable opposition or your conviction to defeat the queen will fail and you will settle down and become part of the stratagem. We are all being played like a fiddle people!

There is too much bad blood between the two kingdoms, specially because some of the affected parties are still around so the only path to peace needs to be more subtle than open and proactive declarations and actions. And if we ever reach the queen and ask "what the hell is going on?" our fate will be sealed, we will never see home again.

I had way too much fun writing this and after reading it again i actually believe myself

Mods! Come quick! Silence this heathen, he knows too much! XD

 

[indyc]

This is probably the best adult game I have played in the last few years and the communication is excellent. I had the following feedback based on personal taste:
The fetishes are wonderful and the fact that having certain fetishes at a high level makes certain challenges more difficult is fantastic.

That being said, I feel like they ramp up too quickly and are removed too quickly for something so thematically long term. I would also like to see them based on player choice slightly more.

I know there were plans for elven village repopulation but I would also love if high virility had a chance of impregnating monsters you have sex with. This would be revealed when fighting that monster type again they might make an added comment about you having a kid now etc.

 

[Mustang Flex]

I said it before and ill say it again! this is all a charade between the two kingdoms to extend the period of peace by sending people to the monster queen kingdom to increase the rate at which they produce money (that as far as i remember was created by sex) that is used to establish a capitalistic society where roles/jobs are defined and organiced and amenities/services established to unify the most unruly/wild monstergirls species bringing stability to the country while also normalizing the concept of interspecies relationships between the kingdoms to dissuade future conflicts so that the problem then is not so black and white as monster bad, humans good and vice versa.

Everything in the is going great so why create and organize (with the queen and the citizens blessing no less) a system designed to guide the adventurers that are there with no objective other that to bring down the sistem? They know you will not succeed! sooner or later you will face insurmountable opposition or your conviction to defeat the queen will fail and you will settle down and become part of the stratagem. We are all being played like a fiddle people!

There is too much bad blood between the two kingdoms, specially because some of the affected parties are still around so the only path to peace needs to be more subtle than open and proactive declarations and actions. And if we ever reach the queen and ask "what the hell is going on?" our fate will be sealed, we will never see home again.

That....god damn that actually makes sense. I'd think it was more of a serendipitous conspiracy rather than one created from the top down. But whether it's multiple parties coming together to make this plot, or different groups realizing that sustaining the status quo will end in that outcome doesn't matter since this really does track as an explanation.

Since this is now canon and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise, my thoughts wander to your role as the Goddess' chosen. Unless we're ending the game in the usual JRPG tradition of fighting God, we're still working under the assumption that she wants human monster coexistence. A hero coming (heh) forth to lay low the Demon Queen and her not so evil machinations would at best, stall, and at worst completely derail them.

My gut reaction is that you being a chosen one doesn't mean all that much. It certainly doesn't seem to have any effect on you. No unusual powers manifest, Dagoth-Ur hasn't started appearing in your dreams, (side note, Threshold. If you're reading this. I will encourage people to name their non- ugly babies after you if you make a Monstergirl Dagoth-Ur), or anything to that effect. Another possibility is, you are special, but your mission isn't what you think. With how much the game pushes you toward making friends with characters, it wouldn't be a shock if you've been sent to accelerate things by making yet more connections between your kind and Monsters.

The later would make sense. Perhaps the Goddess has either run out of patience, or defies the usual god problem of seeing individual lives and lifetimes as insignificant. So she wants coexistence to hurry the hell up instead of playing the long game.

 

[decker2]

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I said it before and ill say it again! this is all a charade between the two kingdoms to extend the period of peace by sending people to the monster queen kingdom to increase the rate at which they produce money (that as far as i remember was created by sex) that is used to establish a capitalistic society where roles/jobs are defined and organiced and amenities/services established to unify the most unruly/wild monstergirls species bringing stability to the country while also normalizing the concept of interspecies relationships between the kingdoms to dissuade future conflicts so that the problem then is not so black and white as monster bad, humans good and vice versa.

Everything in the is going great so why create and organize (with the queen and the citizens blessing no less) a system designed to guide the adventurers that are there with no objective other that to bring down the sistem? They know you will not succeed! sooner or later you will face insurmountable opposition or your conviction to defeat the queen will fail and you will settle down and become part of the stratagem. We are all being played like a fiddle people!

There is too much bad blood between the two kingdoms, specially because some of the affected parties are still around so the only path to peace needs to be more subtle than open and proactive declarations and actions. And if we ever reach the queen and ask "what the hell is going on?" our fate will be sealed, we will never see home again.

I had way too much fun writing this and after reading it again i actually believe myself

i partially agree on this to,
but i think the demon queen and goddess venerea made a pact to which
the queen invited most of the monster girls on her island, to stop the war
and venerea put her protective magic on it
it's like a self chosen exile
and knowing the girls background storys i think they will stay on that island forever...

that makes me think is venereas magic also preventing the girls from ever leaving the island?
is it like a barrier around the island, considering the power scale of the big girls
but then again sovia won't even leave her room...

also venerea summons human guys to the island as entertainment to give the girls something to play with
the mc is not the first nor only male (adventurer) on this island
acording to the succubus camper most end up enslaved in the capitol...

also i'm pretty sure eros aren't the official currency of that world
just on the island like the fake money you get in fun parks that's also what these sigil are

to sum things up i'm sure the mc is only there to keep the girls on the island
by romancing and fucking them all also headpating lots of it
its a win win to keep the peace and prevent war
make love not war

the angels apparently serve as guards so it could be a prison island to...

 

[ankhtar]

Would it be possible for the goddess to be the same person as the demon queen suffering from some sort of multiple personality disorder? You know how these divine types are prone to be blessed with suck. They could be working towards the same goal from completely different angles :shrug:
I've been galaxy braining super hard thinking of the possibilities. Whatever happened to those times when we just used our hands for porn, instead of our brains?

 

[Mustang Flex]

Would it be possible for the goddess to be the same person as the demon queen suffering from some sort of multiple personality disorder? You know how these divine types are prone to be blessed with suck. They could be working towards the same goal from completely different angles :shrug:
I've been galaxy braining super hard thinking of the possibilities. Whatever happened to those times when we just used our hands for porn, instead of our brains?

The problem I see is that it goes against what we already expressly know about the setting. It's certainly possible that some of the lore we have is intentionally false, since everything we have has been narrated to us by people who may be misinformed or lying themselves. But I tend to stick to things that either don't have positive answers, or bits of lore that already have holes in them.

Now, the Demon Queen being directly connected to Venerea still has merit if we can find something to base it off. If I were to bet on such a thing, I'd think she's more of an incarnation or aspect of Venerea, rather than the goddess herself in a dissociative state. That, and I lean more toward the two of them being at odds in method, even if they happen to share a goal. I'd change my tune if I saw good proof for them being in contact, which would then mean the chosen one either isn't chosen at all, or is being treated like a mushroom since him knowing what's up might undermine the plan.

 

[decker2]

Would it be possible for the goddess to be the same person as the demon queen suffering from some sort of multiple personality disorder? You know how these divine types are prone to be blessed with suck. They could be working towards the same goal from completely different angles

that's most unlikely for 3 reasons:
1.the dark knight we meet on the mountain uses a cellphone to talk with the demon queen,
a goddess won't need that...

2.lucile (the angel in the church) says the goddess reside in the celestial realm.
while the demon queen is in her castle on that island

3. the game takes lots of inspiration from the monster girl quest trilogy
so i wouldn't be surprised if the queen is just a powerful lamia and the goddess the final boss
who keeps all the monster girls trapped on that island, sending humans as immortal sex toys to keep the girls busy
either that or this:

i partially agree on this to,
but i think the demon queen and goddess venerea made a pact to which
the queen invited most of the monster girls on her island, to stop the war
and venerea put her protective magic on it
it's like a self chosen exile
and knowing the girls background storys i think they will stay on that island forever...

that makes me think is venereas magic also preventing the girls from ever leaving the island?
is it like a barrier around the island, considering the power scale of the big girls
but then again sovia won't even leave her room...

also venerea summons human guys to the island as entertainment to give the girls something to play with
the mc is not the first nor only male (adventurer) on this island
acording to the succubus camper most end up enslaved in the capitol...

also i'm pretty sure eros aren't the official currency of that world
just on the island like the fake money you get in fun parks that's also what these sigil are

to sum things up i'm sure the mc is only there to keep the girls on the island
by romancing and fucking them all also headpating lots of it
its a win win to keep the peace and prevent war
make love not war

 

[Kratmann]

Will there be CG's for loss scenes in the future like in MGQ?

 

[Kaftein]

Will there be CG's for loss scenes in the future like in MGQ?

Generally speaking, CGs are on the low-end of the priority list. Don't expect to see them for a long time, if at all.

 

[Lazyrick]

Will there be CG's for loss scenes in the future like in MGQ?

Probably not. Art's pricey, so any budget for it is going into character art, or the savings for character art so new characters get introduced with it. Plus, as soon as one is done, everyone is going to be demanding it for this character's scene or that one. Furthermore, good art is hard to get when one of the characters, the PC, has to remain nondescript so it doesn't conflict with the player's idea.

TL;DR No, unless you throw oodles of poodles of money at him.

 

[kagemand96]

are there scenes or is the sex text based only?

 

[Lewd Boi]

are there scenes or is the sex text based only?

Sex text based only for now. scenes are on the low priority list of the development and could be abandoned.