Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v26.8a Alpha] [Threshold]

[thecatcameback]

Has anyone tried the Kyra/Minoni partner code mod? Was wondering if it's any fun.

 

[HumanRug]

Has anyone tried the Kyra/Minoni partner code mod? Was wondering if it's any fun.

I'll try it tonight, Kyra is one of my favourite MG's, been looking forward for her romance route since I discovered MGD.

 

[bengamen]

Has anyone tried the Kyra/Minoni partner code mod? Was wondering if it's any fun.

Where do you find that mod? I don't see it on the Wiki

 

[thecatcameback]

Where do you find that mod? I don't see it on the Wiki

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[FruitSmoothie]

Any relationship girls that are submissive types? Feels like in almost every serious relationship the MC is a bottom. I'm kinda amazed there aren't really any girls in town I'm interested in. It doesn't help that most relationships seem to give you permanent combat debuffs if the wiki is accurate/up to date. Closest town NPC I like is Belle, but I'm not into lactation, rip. Frog, Lizard, and Catgirl at least seem to like being put in their place during combat, too bad they don't seem to have much relationship stuff.

Also, it's really hard to tell when a sex scene will penalize you. Sometimes it drains spirit, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it will give you some crippling weakness, sometimes not. Some consistency/control would be nice. If we're strong enough to defeat these girls in combat, why do we become completely helpless in most scenes with them? The "Male domination" tag here isn't putting in much work, at least when it comes to sex outside of combat. Feels like 90% of the scenes are female domination. There are several girls we straight up can become slaves to, where are the girls we can enslave? We can become sex gods...and about all that's good for right now is being dommed/controlled by more women, lol.

I hope the content is balanced out in the future, right now the male dom tag is kind of misleading. Pretty weird that the focus of the game is all about beating/dominating monster girls...and then we end up being slaves or at least submissive to most the girls in game. Huge disconnect between the way the MC acts in combat and in most relationships/sex scenes. Kinda feels like the dev forgot that if the MC was easily controlled/dominated, they would be absolutely shit at progressing the story.

Remember how when you first meet Amber, she starts off by saying/implying you'll probably end up as some monster's boy toy and never succeed? Yeah, that should be what happens to the MC pretty quickly based on how the MC acts in a lot of scenes/relationships. He rolls over for most women and easily falls to pleasure just like she said you would, but somehow you're able to continue the game anyways because it's necessary for the plot/gameplay.

 

[Wardtnaci]

Wiki is down ATM, is there an Alternative wiki that isn't posted on 1st page?

 

[TheUnsaid]

Any relationship girls that are submissive types? Feels like in almost every serious relationship the MC is a bottom.

First off, MC doesn't take it up the ass unless you want him to with some scenes. He's not a bottom.
He can be mostly a sub though.

There aren't many full blown relationships in the game.
Not everyone has good romantic progression.

That being said it's a straight 50/50 split there I think.

Beris the Hellhound is a complete and total submissive. She explicitly gets angry when you try to romance or do anything like that to her. She just wants you to tie her up and go to town.
Tabitha is 90% submissive. Her whole thing is that she's shy and passive. She even mind controls you to get you to rape her.
Mara the older woman at the bar is a switch, but it's your choice so you can keep her subbing the whole relationship.
Jora is a switch, but it's your choice what scenes you view so you can keep her subbing the whole relationship.
Galvi the electric goblin is a sub. She's confident and assertive, but when it comes time to bone, she wants her partner to lead.
Kyra the lizard girl is a full on sub. If you insert into her, she can't do anything, and you can just rail away at her.
Mika the catgirl is a switch, but you choose the adult content for her so you can just keep her subbing. If you ask to fuck while visiting she leads. The way she subs is if you ask to vaginal her after progressing her relationship or just asking to fight and domming her there.
Aiko the yuki onna is a full sub. She's easy to dom, and prefers it that way. She even has a submission anal skill. A skill that SHE can use where in the text it's YOU thrusting. She even has full romantic progression.
Manticore is a switch with submissive tendencies.
Feng is a switch with submissive tendencies. You have full control over the sexual content once you get into a relationship with her, and can dom her the whole way through. In fact, she has more maledom content than femdom.

The only characters with good romantic progression in the game are...

Ancilla. I admit Ancilla is a dom. She exclusively cowgirl rides and doms.
Jora. Who I've already described.
Aiko. Who I've already described.
Feng. Who I've already described.
Mika. Who I've already described.
Kotone. Kotone's a switch. You don't really have control over the scenes though, cause she has a scene where you start it with you leading and then she gets on top after.
Manticore. Blankin on her actual name. You can enter a relationship with her, and when you do, you have full control over the sexual content. You can dom her all you like and she won't complain.
and Venefica. That's it!!!!

Frog, Lizard, and Catgirl at least seem to like being put in their place during combat, too bad they don't seem to have much relationship stuff.

I'm pretty sure every enemy likes being dommed. Even the doms like Himika and Mizuko like being dommed XD
Like... literally every enemy. Except maybe Ushris... but only her I think.

Also, it's really hard to tell when a sex scene will penalize you. Sometimes it drains spirit, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it will give you some crippling weakness, sometimes not. Some consistency/control would be nice.

I fully agree with this and even said as much to the dev. The response I got from other users and noncommittal response though makes me think it's not gonna happen sadly.

why do we become completely helpless in most scenes with them?

Bro, it's literally just half the game.
Are you so used to maledom games having the vast majority of the game be maledom, you can't get used to a game where only half of it is?

Tons of victory rape, and most consensual scenes in the game are male leading. Not only that, but the romance scenes go both ways.

Feels like 90% of the scenes are female domination.

You're bugging. Like... that's a full on ridiculous statement.

 

[Kuroimi95]

A sub character you forgot is Shizu, but yeah I agree, the balance is pretty fair, you just feel like there are more dominant characters because it's a monster girl game + a battle fuck game

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

While reading the wiki I stumbled upon " The currently unnamed Demon Commander who presides over the Sigil of Luck makes her lair in the Capital's Casino. Himika says she is a "queen" of some description, but Mizuko cuts her off before she can elaborate. They also note she holds much money and power, and that she does logistics for the Demon Queen. "

Why do I think of Stella when i read this
I mean she does hold money and power and for logistics if she has multiple bags she can move stuff aaround through them

so I can totally see Stella be the sigil of luck commander :O

How close am I ??

 

[FruitSmoothie]

you just feel like there are more dominant characters because it's a monster girl game + a battle fuck game

Yeah, a battle fuck game where in the first few maps there are dozens of trap scenes, relationship scenes, and loss scenes where you're helpless/sub/dommed, and I've only seen like 4 scenes where the MC can dom girls so far (Frog, Catgirl, Imps, Lizard). Don't know how anybody could say it's 50/50 with a straight face, it's clearly stacked against the player scene wise atm. I want more chances to "turn the tables" on others. The elven ambush for example...the MC just leaves them hanging in the air, what a waste.

If you want a real 50/50 split, there needs to be a lot more "win" scenes that allow the player to dom. Feel free to go tally up the loss scenes and trap failure scenes vs the victory scenes and trap reversals that actually allow you to dom. Most girls have 2-3 loss scenes, and only about half the girls seem to have a victory scene. Even a lot of the victory scenes are mutual sex or questionable sub MC (drugged) rather than dom MC.

Already touched on how awkward it feels that the MC can willingly be so submissive/passive to girls in a game where you need to dominate girls to continue the story as well. Most of the MC slave/sub relationships I've read about seem like they should straight up cause a bad end atm. If the MC is as easy to control as he appears to be in some scenes, he shouldn't be able to make it past the first dungeon area.

 

[Kuroimi95]

Yeah, a battle fuck game where in the first few maps there are dozens of trap scenes, relationship scenes, and loss scenes where you're helpless/sub/dommed, and I've only seen like 4 scenes where the MC can dom girls so far (Frog, Catgirl, Imps, Lizard).

To be fair, most sub characters appears later, for example, the Temple alone have like 4 of them IIRC

I want more chances to "turn the tables" on others. The elven ambush for example...the MC just leaves them hanging in the air, what a waste.

Enemies disappears once you beat them, but I do agree, we need more post-battle scenes, even if it's only talking (Lizard Girl is a good example), especially for enemies you almost never see otherwise (like the elves, as you said)

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

I mean you domming the enemies is how you win so it happens more often than not unless you lose every fight

you arnt losing every fight right ??

 

[FruitSmoothie]

To be fair, most sub characters appears later, for example, the Temple alone have like 4 of them IIRC

Enemies disappears once you beat them, but I do agree, we need more post-battle scenes, even if it's only talking (Lizard Girl is a good example), especially for enemies you almost never see otherwise (like the elves, as you said)

Ah, at least there's something to look forward to then. I just unlocked the temple earlier but didn't enter it yet. Wasn't sure I was going to continue with how little maledom stuff there seemed to be in the current version, but maybe I'll continue a bit more.

Yeah the enemies disappearing thing being entirely inconsistent doesn't help. Weak ass imps don't disappear but stronger enemies do. The first map initially leads you to believe only named monsters can stick around longer, but then there are random exceptions. Seems more like an excuse to not have to write victory scenes for all the monster girls right now than a story element atm, lol. Maybe it's explained better later on.

 

[triplebrc]

Already touched on how awkward it feels that the MC can willingly be so submissive/passive to girls in a game where you need to be dominate girls to continue the story as well. Most of the MC slave/sub relationships I've read about seem like they should straight up cause a bad end atm. If the MC is as easy to control as he appears to be in some scenes, he shouldn't be able to make it past the first dungeon area.

I agree about the game being not nearly 50/50 in content, especially not at the stage of the game you are currently at. In fact I agree with a lot of what you say, though honestly when it comes to progressing you are overlooking something. The big gimmick of this game is the characters being incapable to really hurt each other, and the Grimoire always teleporting the men back to town after they lose, so typical monster girl game overs are basically impossible as they can't keep you trapped for long.

All these adventurers who are mentioned by Amber for falling to the first few elves they find do so out of their own free will, they get fucked by the elves and think they found their calling, ending their career and just returning to the elves to stay there, which the MC does not, he just keeps progressing because if he returns to a monster it is either for a rematch that allows him to progress, xp grind, or having sex for fun, but he has a clear goal and will therefore not end up as a monsters permanent slave anytime soon even if he got violated a few times.

 

[TheUnsaid]

Yeah, a battle fuck game where in the first few maps there are dozens of trap scenes, relationship scenes, and loss scenes where you're helpless/sub/dommed, and I've only seen like 4 scenes where the MC can dom girls so far (Frog, Catgirl, Imps, Lizard). Don't know how anybody could say it's 50/50 with a straight face, it's clearly stacked against the player scene wise atm. I want more chances to "turn the tables" on others. The elven ambush for example...the MC just leaves them hanging in the air, what a waste.

Your example is wrong. If you pass the trap you can then attack both elves, and start a battle.
There are also traps that make the MC lead like the gas traps from matango.

If you want a real 50/50 split, there needs to be a lot more "win" scenes that allow the player to dom. Feel free to go tally up the loss scenes and trap failure scenes vs the victory scenes and trap reversals that actually allow you to dom. Most girls have 2-3 loss scenes, and only about half the girls seem to have a victory scene. Even a lot of the victory scenes are mutual sex or questionable sub MC (drugged) rather than dom MC.

Mutual sex with the MC leading is still maledom though?

I feel like we're operating under different definitions.

If a girl invites a guy to their room than rides his dick for 3 consecutive creampies, everyone'll call that femdom. Even if the guy's into it. Even if it's fully mutual. Cause she's leading.
If a guy gets invited by a girl to bone, then he rams her ass until she can barely stand, why not call that maledom instead of what "mutual sex." Does it have to be heavy for you to consider maledom, maledom? Why doesn't gentle maledom count?

Also some girls do have more win scenes than they do loss scenes, like Mika, Matango, Imp, Manticore etc.

Just let the girls have personalities. Some girls are naturally assertive and others are not.

Don't you like Gren and the Lizard Girl? Don't you like the Matango? They're made for you...

Already touched on how awkward it feels that the MC can willingly be so submissive/passive to girls in a game where you need to be dominate girls to continue the story as well. Most of the MC slave/sub relationships I've read about seem like they should straight up cause a bad end atm. If the MC is as easy to control as he appears to be in some scenes, he shouldn't be able to make it past the first dungeon area.

You're missing the stopgap of adventurers.

It's not that adventurers stop adventuring because they become submissive to some girl or whatever. They stop adventuring because they find a girl they like so much that they don't consider continuing their adventure anymore.

And again you're ignoring all the relationships where MC can clearly lead, or the fact that most relationships are equal partnerships.
Do you think he's being submissive to Jora or leading that one?
Hell even naturally dominant girls like Ancilla, if that turned into a full blown relationship, it'd just be an equal partnership.

Honestly, the only "slave" stuff in the game are two late game girls which you most definitely haven't seen, and one of them's plot is about breaking out of that and making the relationship equal while the other is played pretty straight.

Yeah the enemies disappearing thing being entirely inconsistent doesn't help. Weak ass imps don't disappear but stronger enemies do. The first map initially leads you to believe only named monsters can stick around longer, but then there are random exceptions. Seems more like an excuse to not have to write victory scenes for all the monster girls right now than a story element atm, lol. Maybe it's explained better later on.

But Imps do disappear though?
It takes some time for it to happen, so MC is literally just walking on while they're in their afterglow.
If you choose to fuck them after beating them, then obviously they wouldn't disappear. You just re-energized them.

There's no excuse to not write victory scenes.
The reason victory rape isn't given to every girl is because the MC isn't an asshat that'd do something the girls don't want. He only has the option to assault the girls that look like they wanna be assaulted.

 

[geheim12347]

and Venefica. That's it!!!!

Wait...Venefica doesn't really have a relationship?
You can work for her as a milking pet and she gets a progressive debuff that can advance to "love" but there's no real realtionship content.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Dude, grow up and stop with the bad faith shit. You actively ignore everything in my messages that gives context for what I'm saying just to try to find shit to argue about. Accept we have different opinions and definitions of shit and move along. Yes, we are operating under different definitions, that should have been clear immediately. Notice how often I say "I feel", notice how I start off by asking if there are more sub relationships in the future (Implying I hadn't cleared the entire game yet). You're not going to convince me that shit I don't think is maledom is maledom, you can stop now.

You're also not going to convince me the game has a 50/50 split between femdom and maledom, that's just plain objectively false atm. You yourself even gave off some examples of sub content that there is no maledom versions for "Oh, there's really only two MC slave events...", so where's the female slave events? If you can't see how unbalanced the game is content wise atm, your eyes are clouded.

Oh, I remember you now from your abandoned femdom game, the way you're acting makes a lot more sense now.

 

[TheUnsaid]

Wait...Venefica doesn't really have a relationship?
You can work for her as a milking pet and she gets a progressive debuff that can advance to "love" but there's no real realtionship content.

I argue differently since during her fight, the difficulty changes depending on how much you progress her relationship.

That being said, it's not on the same level of explicitness as Jora, Kotone or Feng.

Dude, grow up and stop with the bad faith shit. You actively ignore everything in my messages that gives context for what I'm saying just to try to find shit to argue about.

No I'm not. I literally quote post you. I don't leave out anything you're saying.

You're the one besmirching the game and giving people inaccurate expectations I think.

Accept we have different opinions and definitions of shit and move along. Yes, we are operating under different definitions, that should have been clear immediately. You're not going to convince me that shit I don't think is maledom is maledom.

Nah... we're both using the same words. When you're complaining about stuff using the same words everyone else is, that's not obvious. But yeah, if you don't think it is then it isn't. I feel the same.

You're also not going to convince me the game has a 50/50 split, that's just plain objectively false atm. You yourself even gave off some examples of sub content that there is no maledom versions for "Oh, there's really only two MC slave events...", so where's the female slave events?

Wait... does it have to be on the same level for you? For every 1 heavier femdom scene there has to be 1 heavy maledom scene? I'm just counting 1 to 1.

Ushris' slave content is just... she sits on your face and gives you a thighjob. Venefica's is a job where she pays you for saving up cum for her. On the other hand Beris the Hellhound wants to be tied up and raped. Tabitha the bat trips and you can take advantage of her on her ass.

If you can't see how unbalanced the game is content wise atm, your eyes are clouded.

You said 90%. I said that's ridiculous and it's more like 50/50.

Considering the nature of the game with though, I'm willing to admit it might be slightly unbalanced in the female assertive direction. Like 60/40, but it's nowhere near 90% femdom, and you're giving out incorrect assumptions to new people who might be interested in the game.

Oh, I remember you now from your abandoned femdom game, the way you're acting makes a lot more sense now.

I haven't abandoned it no matter what this site says but if you take it that way go ahead. It's my passion project in which I make no money from after all.
And I don't know who you are. Where's your game?

 

[fanboi]

As someone who would prefer that the game be 100% femdom, it feels to me like there is significantly more maledom than femdom present. I'm not interested in your argument, but it's fascinating how the same material can lead to such disparate perspectives.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

As someone who would prefer that the game be 100% femdom, it feels to me like there is significantly more maledom than femdom present. I'm not interested in your argument, but it's fascinating how the same material can lead to such disparate perspectives.

At least you're honest about your bias and seem to be able to separate your feelings from objective fact, lol. I wonder if some people are just ignoring that there are 2-3 loss scenes for most enemies, and most the traps are femdom/helpless MC stuff. Most of us don't unintentionally lose often (or ever) or fall to traps, so it makes it seem like a lot of that content doesn't exist I suppose? That's the only way I could almost understand people's "equal femdom/maledom" view. We generally win in the game, so we see the maledom options more after combat even though there's very little of it compared to the femdom. I figured the people into femdom would intentionally lose to see scenes though, but maybe I'm wrong.

TLDR: A lot of the femdom/loss type stuff is "hidden" from view and the victory stuff isn't. Out of sight, out of mind maybe?

One of the best 50/50 games I can recall is like Corruption of Champions. They handled both sides really well if I remember right. It's been years since I've played, but I remember it being pretty good for everybody's tastes. Heard the sequel went off the rails in a lot of ways though, lol.