Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v26.8a Alpha] [Threshold]

[Noah Neim]

MGD is femdom. We can even count it.

I mean it's tagged as such but you're forgetting that unlike actual femdom games the player can actually have sex with his own agency in tact
Go to something like mgq and you'd need to to gifts to do that and you'd still likely have your asshole invaded if not just straight up eaten

So by far out of all femdom games it is the farthest from an actual femdom game, considering the amount of sub and switch content

 

[AestheticSeeker]

I mean it's tagged as such but you're forgetting that unlike actual femdom games the player can actually have sex with his own agency in tact
Go to something like mgq and you'd need to to gifts to do that and you'd still likely have your asshole invaded if not just straight up eaten

So by far out of all femdom games it is the farthest from an actual femdom game, considering the amount of sub and switch content

Bro, I wouldn't even go that far.

It's not like the girls needs to lead all the time for it to be considered a femdom game imo.
Just most of the time.

Like... take Circle Teckua's games for instance.
Succubus Tamer 2, Lillith in Nightmare etc...

There's a few male assertive paizuri, and consensual missionaries. One of the girls in Succubus Tamer 2's draining scene is player dom doggystyle, until you pass out. Lillith in Nightmare surprisingly has a lot of player assertive missionary in it.

MGQ is honestly an extreme. Most femdom games aren't like that.
Hell the most popular femdom game in FOBS has a lot of maledom in it too.

Just like how popular maledom games, have a few scenes of girls leading too. Most 1one1 games have at least 1 or 2 scenes where the girl leads.

But yeah calling MGDs a femdom game is kinda funny. It really feels like we played a different game.

 

[Suwi]

Kissing is the meta.

Ah yes, yep... The meta! Yeah, I'm totally not a kissing focused character that just makes the monster girls all preggo by kissing... No sirreee!

I'm afraid the only real meta is one skill! The "Holy Headpat"!!!!


Also what the hell happened here?
It seems like there is another debate but I'm not reading all that. Summarize it if possible, thanks in advance.

 

[TheUnsaid]

Ah yes, yep... The meta! Yeah, I'm totally not a kissing focused character that just makes the monster girls all preggo by kissing... No sirreee!

I'm afraid the only real meta is one skill! The "Holy Headpat"!!!!


Also what the hell happened here?
It seems like there is another debate but I'm not reading all that. Summarize it if possible, thanks in advance.

My character's a recoil character that uses status effects to stay alive.

Regarding what happened, I wouldn't go so far as calling it a debate. There's only one topic that was being discussed.

Aesthetic said the game wasn't a femdom game.
NinjaNamedBob disagreed and gave his points.

Multiple people joined in on the conversation. It seems Ninja's currently alone in his corner and staunchly defending his position.

I personally don't think anyone's mind's being changed but I thought it was a good effort.

 

[Nouviii]

To be fair, this is a forum where discussions are incentivized. Having a discussion is what people are supposed to do.

Imo, ThreeSonus has been quite respectful and directly challenged the points the other party made.

Doesn't feel like he's insulted either. Just let them go at it. Maybe someone's mind can be changed.

Yeah I'm okay with people discussing, but that dude just looked so dumb talking like he was debating physics just because a random guy called him fatherless

 

[AestheticSeeker]

My character's a recoil character that uses status effects to stay alive.

Regarding what happened, I wouldn't go so far as calling it a debate. There's only one topic that was being discussed.

Aesthetic said the game wasn't a femdom game.
NinjaNamedBob disagreed and gave his points.

Multiple people joined in on the conversation. It seems Ninja's currently alone in his corner and staunchly defending his position.

I personally don't think anyone's mind's being changed but I thought it was a good effort.

You forgot about the whole Voltin situation talking about the Voltins not having scenes or whether or not they're well done.

Though I guess that's secondary since everyone jumped on the one statement about not being a femdom game.

 

[Noah Neim]

A single retard replying to deleted posts and disregarding what "optional" means in the context of a game where losing in battle means the player is raped. I just disregard it as someone whose dad never paid enough attention to them and move on. if I wanted to deal with daddy issues and retards, I'd commission someone to do a bimbo mod and something involving Kotone. Actually, why no bimbo mod yet?

Firstly, they weren't deleted when I responded to them. Secondly, yes, losing IS optional as I stated in my previous post. So far as I'm aware, at least, and no one has corrected me on that.

I was always open to a civil discussion. I feel like I've been nothing but polite, or at least as polite as the situation demands, anyways. Assuming you're the guy I think you are, I even usually tend to agree with the points that you make. I simply didn't agree with the point you were making here.

Instead of trying to refute me at all, you immediately stooped down to ad hominem, called me a retard/dumbass several times, implied I'm autistic, and said I have "daddy issues".

I'm honestly not even angry at this point, man. I'm just sad. Be better.

Thank the lord i accidentally started this bullshit

 

[hexkitty01]

Maybe someone's mind can be changed.

You haven't had to deal with many Americans, have you? We are a nation of people who ALL believe that everything they think & say is absolute fact, and no one else's opinion that differs even the slightest is valid or worth regard (even me, if you read this sentence in the right cadence). <sighs> I love my country, but I can't f***ing STAND my countrymen.

 

[TheUnsaid]

You haven't had to deal with many Americans, have you? We are a nation of people who ALL believe that everything they think & say is absolute fact, and no one else's opinion that differs even the slightest is valid or worth regard (even me, if you read this sentence in the right cadence). <sighs> I love my country, but I can't f***ing STAND my countrymen.

I'm American and have changed my mind on quite a lot. I've also managed to change the opinions of others quite a lot too.

For instance, my mind was changed on whether or not some of the girls like you back in MGDs. I'm big on romance so I generally don't like callous relationships, but after discussing about it, my mind was changed on Kaia.

I believe I managed to change minds about Nicci's art change as well discussing how the new one looks worse all zoomed out but the attention was put on the right places for the art because while playing it's zoomed in accentuating those details. Not that it's better, just that it's not as bad as people initially assumed it would be.

I also managed to get people to join the ghost brigade as their favorite generic in the caves.

It's OK to not be nihilistic when it comes to people. Don't let one or two bad experiences affect you too much i would say.

 

[AestheticSeeker]

I think I found some bugs in the game.
I'm running 26.1a

• The dialogue regarding Numb Self and Endure says that the damage is Increased by a percentage not decreased.
• None of the Perks that involve increasing the minimum number of dice rolls work. Only one d20 will roll in every given circumstance regardless of item or perk.
• The background inside of the infinite Labyrinth "defaulted" back to the forest dungeon's background instead of the gray labyrinth background after a rest. I fought a Lizard Girl in the Forest Dungeon background (not the forest or mountain BG.)

Also, I have a criticism with the Lizard Girl's victory sex.

I think unavoidable victory sex takes away from the feeling of choice the player has.

I think it's important that it's a choice the player has upon defeating the enemy. Not only for gameplay reasons if a player doesn't want to sit through the scene, but it helps with the roleplaying element much better. Correct me if I'm wrong but only the generic Lizard Girl has forced victory sex in the game at the moment right?

 

[Bogdan2033]

-cut-

First question, why do you playing 26.1a, when 26.3a version is already released?

 

[Phenir]

• None of the Perks that involve increasing the minimum number of dice rolls work. Only one d20 will roll in every given circumstance regardless of item or perk.

My understanding is these work by increasing the minimum of the roll, not by increasing the number of dice (which would make it extremely easy to pass checks). So with +1 instead of rolling 1-20, you roll 2-20. Not 2-40.

 

[Noah Neim]

None of the Perks that involve increasing the minimum number of dice rolls work. Only one d20 will roll in every given circumstance regardless of item or perk.

Are you sure that's what's happening? Dice rolls arent much of a problem unless you overlevlled yourself to shit and mimics are impossible to beat (im speaking from personal experience)

 

[PorcelainDoll]

(Edited)

Possible bug from new version. Blue balls status conditions not going away after orgasm.

First noticed when trying out the Tied and Tamed mod (one of the events gives you the condition, which weirdly results in you getting a second instance of the condition if you already had it going into the event, but that is what made me notice that it wasn't going away). I rolled back my save and deactivated all mods. Even without mods and without having two instances of the blue balls condition, it still doesn't go away.

 

[Link_Xp4444]

(Edited)

Possible bug from new version. Blue balls status conditions not going away after orgasm.

First noticed when trying out the Tied and Tamed mod (one of the events gives you the condition, which weirdly results in you getting a second instance of the condition if you already had it going into the event, but that is what made me notice that it wasn't going away). I rolled back my save and deactivated all mods. Even without mods and without having two instances of the blue balls condition, it still doesn't go away.

I've noticed this as well. If you orgasm during "combat" the status effect will be cleansed, but but an orgasm during an event will not cleanse the effect. For example, if you have sex Trisha outside of "combat" then the status will stay, or if you give Camilla some spirit should you get caught in her web while visiting, the the status effect will stay.

I'm not sure if this is by design, if not then this is definitely a bug.

 

[AestheticSeeker]

First question, why do you playing 26.1a, when 26.3a version is already released?

My friend updates the sound effect mod pretty slowly since he's busy. I also don't check on this game too often, so I very rarely feel the need to update unless big changes happen.

My understanding is these work by increasing the minimum of the roll, not by increasing the number of dice (which would make it extremely easy to pass checks). So with +1 instead of rolling 1-20, you roll 2-20. Not 2-40.

I don't want 2-40
I want 2-20.

You only get one 20 every roll.

EDIT: Wait. Rereading it, that makes sense and also makes it insanely clear how unvaluable those perks are. So you roll more dice, but you pick the biggest number. If 20's the biggest number you can get, it's possible to get rolls that are impossible to save.

Are you sure that's what's happening? Dice rolls arent much of a problem unless you overlevlled yourself to shit and mimics are impossible to beat (im speaking from personal experience)

Nah, for me it's Venefica. One of her skills is impossible to escape in Nightmare mode. Even with all the perks that increase the amount of dice, you only ever roll one dice for all skill checks. The perks literally do nothing.

Possible bug from new version. Blue balls status conditions not going away after orgasm.

First noticed when trying out the Tied and Tamed mod (one of the events gives you the condition, which weirdly results in you getting a second instance of the condition if you already had it going into the event, but that is what made me notice that it wasn't going away). I rolled back my save and deactivated all mods. Even without mods and without having two instances of the blue balls condition, it still doesn't go away.

Actually they can go away from out-of-combat.

It's just that they sometimes forget to write the orgasm code in. If you're more specific and actively point out where exactly this happened, it can be resolved really easily. That being said, just orgasm even out of combat to anyone else. You'll see.

 

[Incompetent Dastard]

Why might this be tagged transformation? Would greatly appreciate a fella enlightening me.

 

[Noah Neim]

Why might this be tagged transformation? Would greatly appreciate a fella enlightening me.

perpetua transforms that one time? just like how for some reason it has a drugs tag despite you only being drugged like one time


Oh right venefica transforms too i guess

 

[Yetanotheruser9191]

perpetua transforms that one time? just like how for some reason it has a drugs tag despite you only being drugged like one time


Oh right venefica transforms too i guess

Also Sofia transforms too.

 

[Master of Puppets]

perpetua transforms that one time? just like how for some reason it has a drugs tag despite you only being drugged like one time


Oh right venefica transforms too i guess

I thought it was more than that, though the closest I can actually think of is Vili changing the size of her tits. Still by the rules only one scene is needed for a game to be tagged. "Drugs" is a really weird one to pick as an example though, since that appears way more than once. It's one of the more common fetishes in the game.