Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v27.2a Alpha] [Threshold]

[AestheticSeeker]

a lot of men are averse to the idea of having sex with a woman who wants it, even if they don't really understand it as such. they want some kind of "conquest", either of a woman who's resistant to sex at all or wants to be in control of sex. this doesn't just manifest in maledom video games and rape fantasies, women are expected to playfully push men away as a way of flirting with them in real life, too. the reasons for this get too far into feminist theory to really talk about here, but that's why a lot of men want to "put a bitch in her place".

I tend to generally stay away from maledom games cause that's not my experience with sexuality.

I don't like girls who are largely averse to sex getting put into sexual positions.
I don't like seeing girls get physically assaulted, and then be sexually assaulted by an entity they find abhorrent and disgusting.
I don't like seeing girls forced to give birth to their rapist's babies.

Putting a bitch in her place is probably the opposite of the "No Reverse" tag on DLsite XD. Reversals are so common that they specifically made a tag for that not happening lol.

Anyways, all that jazz.

And that's like... my main experience with maledom games, so I've just decided to avoid them for the most part since I like assertive girls more sexually anyway.

And that's not even saying I don't like a good vanilla maledom missionary or anything like that.

I genuinely didn't expect that even maledom fans would avoid maledom games for the same reasons lol.

God I feel so stupid repeating the same word over and over again... It's like the language for sexual discussion is incredibly limiting because I don't know how else to describe what I'm feeling.

 

[TheUnsaid]

And that's like... my main experience with maledom games, so I've just decided to avoid them for the most part since I like assertive girls more sexually anyway.

You're still playing old VNs my guy. You can't say that and be a fan of Alicesoft and Eushully.

I don't think you're thinking of them as maledom games but they are, so I think you should give yourself more credit when it comes to game diversity.

I genuinely didn't expect that even maledom fans would avoid maledom games for the same reasons lol.

Avoid them?

Bro, they're just playing more games in conjunction with the ones they already play.
Have you seen their sales in comparison? They aren't even close. This isn't a zero sum situation.

Between the two of them, I say Kotone easily wins the "Horrible Person" award just because of what she did before the game started. But hey, I have seen many people defending both of them. That alone shows interest in the characters, which is enough for me to not consider them the REAL worst girl. We need to dig DEEPER to find the real worst girl.

I don't normally like worst-girl votes because it kind of invites to much negativity, but negativity also inspires discussion so I can see why people like doing it.

I think if we look objectively at the world of Monster Girl Dreams the worst girls aren't named characters. The demon queen Kotone served was apparently the worst one, and got promptly defeated by a hero. A true evil. It's arguable that the current instigator between monster/human relations that made Perpetua evolve from a regular slime, to a queen slime is the most evil though.

BTW, I just wanna say I prefer MGD's interpretation of Queen Slime.


The original design is decent, but Perpetua's offshoots were multicolored and I think that added a lot more to the design.
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Of the named characters, than I believe Sofia did the most direct evil? She ate souls and is much older than Kotone after all.

 

[larkpie]

Who is worst girl?

I really don't like the granny succubus in the bar. She's an active boner killer- can't believe she used to be the bar owner (development-wise).
While her reveal was interesting, the adventurer's shop owner is too bitchy for me.

 

[KarylSummer]

Where are all these people coming from wanting to dominate monster girls?? This is a femdom game where you get sucked dry by succubus lmfao what the fuck am I reading on this thread JEEZUZ you are playing the wrong game if you come here thinking you can dominate the monster girls because the whole theme is getting sucked dry. You can't change this aspect of the game when it's so intricately built in from the beginning. Come on now

 

[Phenir]

No one tell him about all the maledom scenes

 

[TheUnsaid]

Where are all these people coming from wanting to dominate monster girls?? This is a femdom game where you get sucked dry by succubus lmfao what the fuck am I reading on this thread JEEZUZ you are playing the wrong game if you come here thinking you can dominate the monster girls because the whole theme is getting sucked dry. You can't change this aspect of the game when it's so intricately built in from the beginning. Come on now

Are we playing the same game? This game's switch.

Aesthetic was just lamenting at the fact that monster girls are mainstream to the point that you have monster girl fans who don't like femdom.

But like... let's not get it twisted Beris, and Matango were early girls. Imp's loss scene literally ends with MC reversing it on all the Imps.

I think you're mistaken on what kind of game this is.

 

[KarylSummer]

Doesn't change the fact majority of scenes is you getting reverse raped. The maledom content is so low, may as well not exist

 

[Lafreakfreaker]

^ add more chubby girls
(real question) is it only elly who gives you intelligence skills?
[Edit] I looked at the wiki

 

[Phenir]

Doesn't change the fact majority of scenes is you getting reverse raped. The maledom content is so low, may as well not exist

Do you do any content outside of combat?

 

[TheUnsaid]

Doesn't change the fact majority of scenes is you getting reverse raped. The maledom content is so low, may as well not exist

Hmm... it's not really that low. I agree it's the majority though.

Probably a 65/35 split honestly.

Tons of girls have victory scenes. Mika and the Lizard girls for instance having extended victory scenes. Kaia and bubble slime having some. Aiko and Shizu too... like there's a lot. Nara and Feng.

A lot of the inn scenes are maledom, like mating pressing the two bubble slimes, and absolutely manhandling Galvi.

You can get maledom scenes when you visit like a lot of girls like Minoni too. I don't think the split is as wide as you're seeing.

 

[AestheticSeeker]

Did you guys see the new Shizu CG teaser for the patrons?

What's the verdict? What are everyone's opinions? I myself am a big fan, because we get to see new expressions on Shizu we've never seen b4.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Did you guys see the new Shizu CG teaser for the patrons?

What's the verdict? What are everyone's opinions? I myself am a big fan, because we get to see new expressions on Shizu we've never seen b4.

Yeah, it looks good. Fight stance CGs are particularly tricky because they have to work for both the player or the girl being on top, but this could pass as either I think.

 

[Ganki]

Shizu

Yeah, it looks good. Fight stance CGs are particularly tricky because they have to work for both the player or the girl being on top, but this could pass as either I think.

Shizu is getting a CG HELL YEAH, bro I always though it was a shame she didn't have one

 

[luckyrod]

For Shizu?!? Is it for the ambush scenario or the dojo scenario?

 

[Klglhgh]

Maybe Elena is worst girl being a time bomb of male resentment for overvaluing herself?

Now I know this is bait but cmon, Elena isn't resentful or arrogant, just frustrated and overworked. She's like that friend most have, someone who's actually really impressive and acomplished but has terrible luck with relationships because she wants someone who can match her intensity and has the same level standards she holds herself to. That's not overvaluing, she's not being hypocritical and asking something she isn't willing to do hersefl, that's just struggle that comes with the territory

Presumably because Elena is one of the only characters whose sex content is purely putting you in your place (which is rad imo).

And that also comes entirely from context. In work scenes the player isn't in the role of a cool and powerful adventurer who enters a relationship, he's a boytoy for hire so he does what is asked of him whether it's to be dominant, submissive or just cuddle and play catch

 

[Kunt]

a lot of men are averse to the idea of having sex with a woman who wants it, even if they don't really understand it as such. they want some kind of "conquest", either of a woman who's resistant to sex at all or wants to be in control of sex. this doesn't just manifest in maledom video games and rape fantasies, women are expected to playfully push men away as a way of flirting with them in real life, too. the reasons for this get too far into feminist theory to really talk about here, but that's why a lot of men want to "put a bitch in her place".

what does the feminist theory say about the men who like their partners enjoy it?
cause I'd say that's the majority of dudes

 

[Kunt]

Where are all these people coming from wanting to dominate monster girls?? This is a femdom game where you get sucked dry by succubus lmfao what the fuck am I reading on this thread JEEZUZ you are playing the wrong game if you come here thinking you can dominate the monster girls because the whole theme is getting sucked dry. You can't change this aspect of the game when it's so intricately built in from the beginning. Come on now

wtf are you talking about lol? the entire game is designed so you can build your character in either direction
that's like saying Tales of Androginyhas only one way to play it
absolute nonsense

 

[boringapocalypse]

Now I know this is bait but cmon, Elena isn't resentful or arrogant, just frustrated and overworked. She's like that friend most have, someone who's actually really impressive and acomplished but has terrible luck with relationships because she wants someone who can match their intensity and has the same level standards she holds herself to. That's not overvaluing, she's not being hypocritical and asking something she isn't willing to do hersefl, that's just struggle that comes with the territory


And that also comes entirely from context. In work scenes the player isn't in the role of a cool and powerful adventurer who enters a relationship, he's a boytoy for hire so he does what is asked of him whether it's to be dominant, submissive or just cuddle and play catch

It's not bait. Older woman are simply less valuable than younger women in a committed very long-term relationship and not recognizing that matters is a recipe for resentment when they end up with a man "below their standard". Elena is a nice and funny character in her role in the game, I just see her as being a "too real" depiction of women that wait too long to marry/have children. Funnily enough the contrasts with Elly makes Elly more attractive and well-characterized than if they were standalone characters, which is good writing IMO.

Also a Shizu cg?! that is hype

 

[triplebrc]

what does the feminist theory say about the men who like their partners enjoy it?
cause I'd say that's the majority of dudes

Oh I can answer that since I had a typical brainrot third wave feminazi in my extended family who we mocked frequently. It was something along the lines of "Men only want them to enjoy it because it gives them the feeling of complete power and dominance to inflict pleasure beyond the womans control upon her and make her lose herself beneath him" or some bs along those lines. That ideology has all screws loose and is utterly useless nowadays, a bunch of spoiled brats who feel like they gotta fight for something to feel complete, but the fight that they chose was won long ago, and fighting one actually ongoing fight would be hard and require work beyond sitting on social media.

Yeah, it looks good. Fight stance CGs are particularly tricky because they have to work for both the player or the girl being on top, but this could pass as either I think.

That is kinda a design flaw from the developer though, namely the desicion to just make "sex" one stance, which is pretty stupid. It is not only stupid because it either limits the art for the scenes or makes one sided art that does not really fit when the circumstances are different, but it is inherently kinda stupid mainly because both opponents always wanna fuck the other, and who is currently dominant should mainly be decided by the position they are in at the time, or if restraints, exhaustion or mind control are a thing thats currently happening.
A male would have almost no chance to "counter fuck" a heavy monster girl sitting on top of him, so his course of action would be to first change positions and put the girl into a less dominant position from which she cannot dictate the pace nearly as much. Having 2 or 3 different stances that can be changed with a good roll, with different risks and rewards, would be much better for most things, including CG.

 

[Master of Puppets]

That is kinda a design flaw from the developer though, namely the desicion to just make "sex" one stance, which is pretty stupid. It is not only stupid because it either limits the art for the scenes or makes one sided art that does not really fit when the circumstances are different, but it is inherently kinda stupid mainly because both opponents always wanna fuck the other, and who is currently dominant should mainly be decided by the position they are in at the time, or if restraints, exhaustion or mind control are a thing thats currently happening.
A male would have almost no chance to "counter fuck" a heavy monster girl sitting on top of him, so his course of action would be to first change positions and put the girl into a less dominant position from which she cannot dictate the pace nearly as much. Having 2 or 3 different stances that can be changed with a good roll, with different risks and rewards, would be much better for most things, including CG.

True, but that's how it is, and changing it now would be a huge job, probably like an entire update just for that.