neronwtf

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Is there finally a sex scene in this
No, the dev is stretching like a chewing gum the concept of teasing. The closest so far in this update was a lame handjob in a most probable female dom route and some lesbian fingering

maybe a fully unlocked gallery wouldn't be a bad idea, given the prerequisites bullshit
Spin256 He's totally right. Quite frankly is very difficult to follow all the path the way the game is conceived. So, some of the players can feel that the updates are very short, when is not necessarily the case. Even with the universal mod is not intuitive to unlock all the scenes seeing the way you coded the prerequisites.
 
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Having scenes behind prerequisites is nothing new, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a game that doesn't do this. That is the point of giving you character stats to chase.

The "Prerequisite not met" option was added to let players know there was another path and, with the hints enabled, what those prerequisites are.

Perhaps it being in your face is what's annoying about it. But, if it annoys you, it can be switched off in the settings.

I've not tried URM for a while, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. The prerequisite check is an 'if' statement, which I believe is what URM looks for in its path detection.

I know 0x52 isn't looking to create game-specific changes, but we can ask if the game code is causing the path detection not to work correctly and if there's anything we can do to minimize any issues.

A replay gallery is on the to-do list, but the character stats and other variables in the various scenes need to be accounted for and set appropriately, hence why I haven't done it yet.
 

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Having scenes behind prerequisites is nothing new, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a game that doesn't do this. That is the point of giving you character stats to chase.

The "Prerequisite not met" option was added to let players know there was another path and, with the hints enabled, what those prerequisites are.

Perhaps it being in your face is what's annoying about it. But, if it annoys you, it can be switched off in the settings.

I've not tried URM for a while, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. The prerequisite check is an 'if' statement, which I believe is what URM looks for in its path detection.

I know 0x52 isn't looking to create game-specific changes, but we can ask if the game code is causing the path detection not to work correctly and if there's anything we can do to minimize any issues.

A replay gallery is on the to-do list, but the character stats and other variables in the various scenes need to be accounted for and set appropriately, hence why I haven't done it yet.
Hey dude I really like your game. One of my favourite avn's I have on steam.
 
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neronwtf

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I'm not saying that you should get rid of the prerequisites or the multiples play-throughs to unlock all the content. I'm just suggesting that you made these multiple paths more clear to players.

The "Prerequisite not met" option was added to let players know there was another path
They aren't always as clearly indicated to the player to know it. For instances, when Caprice must choose between the girl or the MC to enact the story the teacher is reading, you don't have a screen to make a choice. The selection is automatically made based on your affinity points with her. I could guess this thanks to U52, because I could see there was two paths just before she made her decision. So I guess that some players can be frustrated, because obviously they want the MC to be chosen in most of the cases.

Which brings me to the next point. I'm not saying that U52 is not working, I'm just stating that the way you coded the prerequisites make it a little bit less intuitive than other games.
 

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I'm not saying that you should get rid of the prerequisites or the multiples play-throughs to unlock all the content. I'm just suggesting that you made these multiple paths more clear to players.



They aren't always as clearly indicated to the player to know it. For instances, when Caprice must choose between the girl or the MC to enact the story the teacher is reading, you don't have a screen to make a choice. The selection is automatically made based on your affinity points with her. I could guess this thanks to U52, because I could see there was two paths just before she made her decision. So I guess that some players can be frustrated, because obviously they want the MC to be chosen in most of the cases.

Which brings me to the next point. I'm not saying that U52 is not working, I'm just stating that the way you coded the prerequisites make it a little bit less intuitive than other games.
Yes, the choice is made automatically based on your affinity with her. You either need high affinity or if you're on her path and have kissed her more than once, medium affinity is allowed.

If neither of those is true, you're probably not pursuing her.

The "Prerequisite not met" is intended when you are on a character's path and there's a choice you can't make due to an earlier choice you made.

I can add notifications when characters make a decision based on your actions if that's what you're asking for. A toggleable option that lets you know the multiverse exists.

The irony is not lost on me; players wanted choices to matter and have consequences, but not consequences they can't change. Dammit, Thanos, where's that gauntlet when you need it!
 

neronwtf

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players wanted choices to matter and have consequences
I don't mind consequences of the choices I made. I just want a clear indication of the reason behind why I'm missing part of the content (such as when I have to choose between the pool scene or the other one). Other games also give you options, but are telling you, e.g: kiss her (need .... "love"/affinity points"). You're already doing this for some of the options, but not for all the paths.
Otherwise is impossible to know that you missed some content (even more without a gallery that shows all the scenes available). Seeing that you're really pushing the teasing to the limits, I though at first that Caprice was really choosing the girl to do all the stuff she did with her, and the time will came to the MC in the future.
 

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I don't mind consequences of the choices I made. I just want a clear indication of the reason behind why I'm missing part of the content (such as when I have to choose between the pool scene or the other one). Other games also give you options, but are telling you, e.g: kiss her (need .... "love"/affinity points"). You're already doing this for some of the options, but not for all the paths.
Otherwise is impossible to know that you missed some content (even more without a gallery that shows all the scenes available). Seeing that you're really pushing the teasing to the limits, I though at first that Caprice was really choosing the girl to do all the stuff she did with her, and the time will came to the MC in the future.
I understand you want to know you missed content, and I am genuinely interested in how players want to know other paths are available.

The "Prerequisite not met" was added in response to players asking to know if other choices were available. Some players responded negatively because there were now options they couldn't select. They couldn't choose those options before, but it wasn't a negative experience since they didn't know.

I understand your point with Caprice, which could be remedied with a fake choice to volunteer to show the prerequisite not met hint.

If we look at the fashion scene, if you don't flirt with Mrs Anderson, you don't get the additional scene with her. Should you get some kind of notification another scene was available? Since you actively chose not to flirt, is it a given you're not interested in her?

As a player, how do you want to be informed that other scenes exist?
 

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I understand you want to know you missed content, and I am genuinely interested in how players want to know other paths are available.

The "Prerequisite not met" was added in response to players asking to know if other choices were available. Some players responded negatively because there were now options they couldn't select. They couldn't choose those options before, but it wasn't a negative experience since they didn't know.

I understand your point with Caprice, which could be remedied with a fake choice to volunteer to show the prerequisite not met hint.

If we look at the fashion scene, if you don't flirt with Mrs Anderson, you don't get the additional scene with her. Should you get some kind of notification another scene was available? Since you actively chose not to flirt, is it a given you're not interested in her?

As a player, how do you want to be informed that other scenes exist?
What’s the easiest way to get the bad boy that is needed for massaging Maria? I’ve picked all the perv choices, and spying but says I don’t meet the requirement
 

neronwtf

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Some players responded negatively because there were now options they couldn't select
Those are probably the ones that play harem games, in which there is non consequence other than every woman fall under your spell without any logical reason in most of the cases.
Myself, and I want to believe other players as well, I want to know that there are other options, that maybe I want to explore (or not), which are the requisites to see what I need to do to unlock it.

which could be remedied with a fake choice to volunteer to show the prerequisite not met hint.
Yes, such as you did when you're in her path and you can choose to accept or not.

If we look at the fashion scene
Quite frankly, I couldn't get it yet. I'm doing another playtrough while on Caprice path, because in my first playthrough it was only the literature class, the lesbian scene and then home. I discovered the fashion scene while scanning the img folder.
Though, answering your question. Yes, MC can be more assertive and try to flirt without waiting a cue, and this will give you the chance to show different paths and if it's possible for the player to unlock them, depending on the choices made and the conditions to meet to do it.

As a player, how do you want to be informed that other scenes exist?
Either, by the MC being more assertive, which will put the player in such a scenario where what the MC wants can be achieved or not; either by a gallery with every scene available (with a short description that can serve as a hint for the player), either with a some sort of walk-through in the bio of every character).
 
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What’s the easiest way to get the bad boy that is needed for massaging Maria? I’ve picked all the perv choices, and spying but says I don’t meet the requirement
You need high affinity and be a bad boy.
How many bad boy points are required depends on the difficulty you are playing. Only -1 is needed on Easy, Normal -2, and Hard -3.

On the Saturday at the Mall, kiss Caprice.

On the Sunday at her house:
Don't apologize for seeing Karla in her underwear.
Kiss Caprice again (you need to have kissed her at the mall first)
When leaving her house, pick "Turn to Maria and smile."

If you're attending Kimberley's yoga scene, wait in the yoga room, say Hi to Maria and slap her ass.
If you have a high affinity with Kimberley, she will say something positive about you attending the class, granting you +1 affinity with all the other women present.

On the Tuesday, when you catch Maria, ask if she's ok (not drunk).
When she compliments your massage skills, respond with "Magic fingers."
 
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How do you change the background on the phone? I set it as catherine long long long time ago and I don´t want that picture as it anymore.

Can you do that or do I have to replay?
 

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Looks like my incest patch shortened the update for me, according to the description below...agh....
 
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Just start playing: "Hmm, quite unusually, not a unblvbl stupid VN"... more or less adequate interaction and behavior of the characters (ofc from some where in parallel EroGalaxy, but still). You are warmed up with endless childish teasing...more..and more... start to think "well i like where is it going:whistle::coffee:" and because its a 0.6.1v of a game (by logic, half of the game should be implemented!?), you start to anticipate the content that awaits you:p.. and BOOM! "This is the END thx for playing:poop:"! WT actual F!? 4+- short game days:cry: 4 YEARS... for THIS!?!?!?:oops: Unbelievable dev:LOL:(y) It seems to me that the dev is in some kind of time trap, for him 1 day is like a year for us. Of course, dev doesn't owe anyone anything!
 
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