VN Ren'Py Move the Chains [v0.2 Bugfix] [MissFortune]

[The Pointman]

Not bad love the visuals they where great story seems okish so far not a real fan of forced friend characters in games since they always really push for you to like them gets annoying but other than that its alright will be interesting to see where this goes.

 

[kwazi]

wats up with this yuna person is she gonna die cuz shes not listed in the harem or important people is she just a background character to give mc more back story can u answer that dev and ty for the game really enjoying it so far

 

[Me-ta-Xa]

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U know dev silence is golden
No need to respond to trolls
Respond to those who have genuine interest and problems with the game and those who actually give constructive criticism

Legend!

 

[Fazed]

The ammount of dickriding in this thread is crazy. This feels more like the devs discord by the ammount of white knight in here. I dunno what's more annoying people constantly bitching about the same thing in the game or people that are constantly bitching about the people bitching about the game. I think it's the latter to be honest cause they act like they have some kind of moral high ground over the first group

So you're bitching then?

 

[Ragnar]

The dog head between scenes looks cool but you're abusing. It makes transitions slower and becomes annoying after a while.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

The dog head between scenes looks cool but you're abusing. It makes transitions slower and becomes annoying after a while.

I thought it was a wolf head, until I saw 'Paco'.

 

[Fazed]

I'm in the same boat. I wrote a review for the game this morning, but all the cancel-culture, social-media aspects of the story are dumb as hell and fit in with the rest of it like a fart in an elevator. It's weird enough that I've been thinking about it since last night.

What gets me is that it all comes hand in hand with some great character work. Ivy in particular is a surprisingly empathetic portrayal of a trans woman, and the scene with Yuna's dad is touching. Both their scenes are way better done than they had to be, considering that they're both there as porn justification. All the friendships hit, the dialogue's good, and the MC visibly has a number of serious character flaws that he tries to counteract with incredible warmth and generosity towards his loved ones.

All the cancel culture stuff falls absolutely flat, though, especially when you find out what it was that the MC actually did and why.

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More crucially, the MC being "canceled" doesn't matter at all, except for when it gives the characters/author an excuse to rant about it. For a "canceled" guy, the MC is still given an astonishing amount of money, trust, licensing deals, real estate, and consumer goods right off the hop the second he gets to Texas. It's like that political cartoon about the guy ranting about how he's been canceled on TV, then to a large audience, and then in a best-selling book, but Move the Chains seems to be absolutely serious.

Once you have bad rep, regardless of whatever vindication comes later, a lot of social media wont care and will sing about it till they die. "He did it and I don't care what the evidence says." Then there are those that will see that and believe it without looking into it themselves.
That literally happens all the time. Idk just how far it stretches into real life but there are definitely people who have lost their jobs because of it and even after being cleared it's like they still did it. Johnny Depp? Im sure some parts of twitter are still raging and all the people that "self inserted" as Amber Heard, because they had a real experience with domestic abuse.
That doesn't mean you cant still find work(Chris Brown is still making music after what he actually did) if you are very famous/ very good at what you do but without that, it's definitely going to hinder you.
Also just being an ex-con comes with its own stigma regardless of what you went to prison for.

Considering what I just said though, the MC getting all those offers immediately(the same day) after getting out is a stretch but like the story says, he must have been something really special on the field for his talent to shine through all the bullshit. A little suspension of disbelief might be needed for that.


P.S. Saying twitter is fixated on race is an understatement. I am not white and not American but from what I've seen happen in the last few years there is no way an event like what is portrayed in the game wouldnt blow up on twitter and media in general. Everyone would be talking about. Can't imagine how many would handle that many fingers pointing at them.

 

[hashcheckin]

Once you have bad rep, regardless of whatever vindication comes later, a lot of social media wont care and will sing about it till they die. "He did it and I don't care what the evidence says." Then there are those that will see that and believe it without looking into it themselves.

That's fair, but also not the point I'm trying to make. It's not really "cancel culture" when you've got a shitty reputation due to something you provably did, and the MC is freely admitting he killed the guy to people he just met.

The MC also visibly isn't canceled, because as you said, he had talent scouts swarming him as soon as he was out of prison and his first NIL deal is for a low six digits. That leaves Move the Chains in the position of trying to comment on cancel culture when its understanding of cancel culture is simply that somebody has suffered a consequence for his actions.

Edit: It just occurred to me that the neighbor lady (Kara?) knows exactly who the MC is, which means she knows that he killed a guy in a fit of rage, but was still willing to leave him alone with her young son for long enough to give him advice. That's... special.

 

[Fazed]

That's fair, but also not the point I'm trying to make. It's not really "cancel culture" when you've got a shitty reputation due to something you provably did, and the MC is freely admitting he killed the guy to people he just met.

The MC also visibly isn't canceled, because as you said, he had talent scouts swarming him as soon as he was out of prison and his first NIL deal is for a low six digits. That leaves Move the Chains in the position of trying to comment on cancel culture when its understanding of cancel culture is simply that somebody has suffered a consequence for his actions.

It is an aspect of it. How well it actually sticks irl is another matter. People still run their mouths like they know everything though. Like I said, people have lost their jobs over false claims but famous people get around it even when they actually do bad shit.

He did the deed in self defense and the evidence shows that but parts social media is still running with the old story, and some of them are real loud.
That's a part of it. "Court of public opinion" does cross over into cancel culture.

 

[Fazed]

It just occurred to me that the neighbor lady (Kara?) knows exactly who the MC is, which means she knows that he killed a guy in a fit of rage, but was still willing to leave him alone with her young son for long enough to give him advice. That's... special.

IIRC she was just around the corner. You could see her leg and the MC notices her. Also the kid wanted him to come watch his game and both Kara and the MC say that it's probably not a good idea.

 

[motseer]

Also just being and ex-con comes with its own stigma regardless of what you went to prison for.

Add to that the fact that there are literally hundreds of inmates, wrongly convicted, exonerated by new evidence every year. That is the case of the MC in this story. Thousands upon thousands of jobs that you won't even be considered for if you have a lousy misdemeanor on your record. That's real cancel culture. Your future canceled by a mistake. I believe in the necessity of a justice system and correction. Lot's of bad guys who probably don't deserve a second chance but, plenty who do; and that warrants providing it. I just think the media and "internet" public opinion should have no part in the process. It's a rush to judgement and the "court of public opinion" is too often ignorant of the facts.

...he must have been something really special on the field for his talent to shine through all the bullshit.

Heh... It's been 17 years since a white boy played cornerback in the NFL. I could see how stories like this one would help the next to make the cut a very rich young man. Jus' Sayin'

Lots of contentious comments are the mark of a poignant story. Kudos to MissFortune for taking on tough issues. Way to stir the .

Edit: I erroneously said defensive back when I meant to say corner back. Changed. Thanks GoldenEyeDrake.

 

[GoldenEyeDrake]

Add to that the fact that there are literally hundreds of inmates, wrongly convicted, exonerated by new evidence every year. That is the case of the MC in this story. Thousands upon thousands of jobs that you won't even be considered for if you have a lousy misdemeanor on your record. That's real cancel culture. Your future canceled by a mistake. I believe in the necessity of a justice system and correction. Lot's of bad guys who probably don't deserve a second chance but, plenty who do; and that warrants providing it. I just think the media and "internet" public opinion should have no part in the process. It's a rush to judgement and the "court of public opinion" is too often ignorant of the facts.



Heh... It's been 17 years since a white boy played defensive back in the NFL. I could see how stories like this one would help the next to make the cut a very rich young man. Jus' Sayin'

Lots of contentious comments are the mark of a poignant story. Kudos to MissFortune for taking on tough issues. Way to stir the .

To be fair, there are/have been white safeties in the NFL recently. The two that come to mind are Eric Weddle and Harrison Smith. It's the CB position that is lacking white people.

 

[Semak34]

A really solid first release, i'm super immersed already. The renders are really nice, the story is compelling and the girls are outrageously beautiful i couldn't reject any! You can tell it's been made with a lot of love and effort.

 

[motseer]

To be fair, there are/have been white safeties in the NFL recently. The two that come to mind are Eric Weddle and Harrison Smith. It's the CB position that is lacking white people.

Yep, I was thinkin' corner and wrote db. Thanks.

 

[BarbarrossaNA]

Hell.. the back and forth comments are almost as entertaining as the game. Not dipping into that.. but what I'd like to say is this is a pretty solid.. entertaining.. well written.. large and in charge initial release of a game. Color me impressed. The biggest thing I'd like to point out is the Dev has two short games earlier in his career.. one abandoned and the other on hold.. Please please please don't do that with this one.. I think you've hit the jackpot and I'd like to ride along as your Patreon numbers grow. The talent is there.. now let the perseverance follow. Got my fingers crossed for you.

 

[kwazi]

hopefully dev answers my question about yuna and wats ger role in the game

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Very promising.

 

[GlennQuagmire69]

Man Yuna is cute, but the EARS man! the ears!!!

 

[kwazi]

Man Yuna is cute, but the EARS man! the ears!!!

never liked girls with gages

 

[motseer]

...you should at the very least make it avoidable.

Yep, you absolutely had the opportunity to avoid the whole scene.