VN Ren'Py Move the Chains [v0.3] [MissFortune]

[Krytax123]

Looked at the pricing at patreon and i have to say its really bad and discouraging to sub.

The only tier i would ever consider to sub on would be the superfan 3€ tier which gives access a week sooner than public with the current shedule.

Btw are public releases even allowed when being on steam?

The 50€ tier is kinda questionable imo (having to wait a week with a sub like that)

The 25€ tier entirely sucks ass (2 weeks waiting at 25€ support is way too long)

Depending on the pricing/release structure i sub at the 15-25€ tier for avns i really like but i would never do it here despite me liking the avn and i could imagine the dev losing quite some income from this bracket due to the structure

The time overall is fine (1 month) but imo there should only be 2-3 days between the high(er) tiers and longer times towards the cheap tiers but thats just my two cents.

 

[MissFortune]

Looked at the pricing at patreon and i have to say its really bad and discouraging to sub.

I agree that they probably aren't the best. But eh. I haven't had any complaints. Until now, at least. That said, Patreon isn't (and shouldn't be) an option to outright buy the game. You're supporting the artist(s)/teams/etc. and getting bonuses from that support. If you're just looking to buy the game, Steam or Itch are going to be better options. It's far cheaper at the end of the day.

Btw are public releases even allowed when being on steam?

Why wouldn't they be? All Steam cares about is that you aren't selling their keys cheaper somewhere else.

 

[Krytax123]

I agree that they probably aren't the best. But eh. I haven't had any complaints. Until now, at least. That said, Patreon isn't (and shouldn't be) an option to outright buy the game. You're supporting the artist(s)/teams/etc. and getting bonuses from that support. If you're just looking to buy the game, Steam or Itch are going to be better options. It's far cheaper at the end of the day.



Why wouldn't they be? All Steam cares about is that you aren't selling their keys cheaper somewhere else.

You do you, it was just my 2 cents that its discouraging from my perspective and i think youre missing money out due to it.

There are a lot of people (like me) who dont support for nothing but indeed enjoy to support/buy if there is a fair incentive (im not really into giving money to unknown people for nothing even when i like the devs ...).

Im not on Itch and wouldnt ever buy a avn on steam even if i wouldnt be from germany lol. And im talking from your pov too, people who may sub for 20 are may staying.

But whatever, feel free to ignore everything i wrote and take my 3$ when the time comes lol, i feel like i brought my point across.

It wasnt really meant as a complaint anyway, more (intended) to be constructive critism and what i see whats working for other devs

Oh and i thought a public release is like giving keys away for free

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Oh and i thought a public release is like giving keys away for free

Most developers do not do public releases once it hits Steam due to the fact that Steam wants the price to be the same on all store fronts. I think there is even some confusion whether a public release is actually allowed once it hits Steam. Most developers with games on Steam will do a public but it's sometimes a few updates behind the Steam version.

 

[Miranha157]

The only tier i would ever consider to sub on would be the superfan 3€ tier which gives access a week sooner than public with the current shedule.

No meu país, a gente chama de mão de vaca, pirangueiro, liso ou duro uma pessoa que tem medo de usar o dinheiro, no seu caso pelo que eu notei tu é muito de um liso boy.

In my country, we call a person who is afraid of using money a tightwad, a scrooge, a smooth or a hard man. In your case, from what I've noticed, you are a very smooth boy.

Im not on Itch and wouldnt ever buy a avn on steam even if i wouldnt be from germany lol. And im talking from your pov too, people who may sub for 20 are may staying.

I'm curious, why wouldn't you buy a stroke on Steam? Are you afraid that your friends will find out that you jerk off to a 3D character?

 

[Krytax123]

I'm curious, why wouldn't you buy a stroke on Steam? Are you afraid that your friends will find out that you jerk off to a 3D character?

lol no i dont give a fuck and you can deactive it in privacy settings anyway

its just dumb to buy games on steam when you can buy them otherwise and own them for real yourself. And steam versions of avns always lag behind anyway (not in this case apparently).

But avns arent on steam where im from anyway

 

[Miranha157]

its just dumb to buy games on steam when you can buy them otherwise and own them for real yourself. And steam versions of avns always lag behind anyway (not in this case apparently).

Well, all the AVNS I've played and that are on Steam, whether full or still in development, are the same as on Patreon, at most the only difference is the music due to copyright issues, but everyone does what they think is best. I can't support monthly and I think that buying on Steam is a support for both the developer and the artists.

Regarding whether or not it's stupid to buy a game on Steam, it's up to each person. If I have the money at the moment, I'll buy it and fuck the world.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Well, all the AVNS I've played and that are on Steam, whether full or still in development, are the same as on Patreon, at most the only difference is the music due to copyright issues, but everyone does what they think is best. I can't support monthly and I think that buying on Steam is a support for both the developer and the artists.

Regarding whether or not it's stupid to buy a game on Steam, it's up to each person. If I have the money at the moment, I'll buy it and fuck the world.

AVN's aren't allowed on Steam in Germany where Krytax is from so it's a moot point anyway.

Also, it's not unusual for VN's to lag behind on Steam, some Dev's only release updates on Steam in bigger chunks than on Patreon.

 

[Meiri]

I still haven't caught up with all the content, but I have to say I am liking Kara a lot, wasn't sure at first when we meet her, but she seems someone that kinda compliments our MC.

 

[Anakist]

Kinda busy today, but I'm on Discord like once or twice a day. Otherwise I'd never get anything done.

Shit. Have you got a discord going? Where do I find the link please?

 

[MissFortune]

Shit. Have you got a discord going? Where do I find the link please?

I have an account, no page up yet. Been busy getting Episode 3 out. Should have it going once I finish the character page for Episode 3.5 (which is about half done for the female characters.).

 

[Anakist]

Ah I see. I was all excited but it's just on another server. NVM then I'll keep waiting. Thanks for being up at weird o'clock, and for making a great game.

 

[aeonyx_5005]

Where's the exit button on android?

 

[MissFortune]

Where's the exit button on android? View attachment 4465917

Just right-click for now, will see about adding one for Episode 3.5.

 

[aeonyx_5005]

Just right-click for now, will see about adding one for Episode 3.5.

I play on android and I hate having to restart the game after saving

 

[MissFortune]

I play on android and I hate having to restart the game after saving

Are you on JoiPlay? Could try tapping with two fingers instead of one.

 

[marcus_avn]

Most developers do not do public releases once it hits Steam due to the fact that Steam wants the price to be the same on all store fronts. I think there is even some confusion whether a public release is actually allowed once it hits Steam. Most developers with games on Steam will do a public but it's sometimes a few updates behind the Steam version.

Just to avoid that this false rumor spreads further, even though MissFortune already dispelled it: This is not true. Steam (or Valve for that matter) does *not* require anything with regards to pricing on other storefronts. The only thing they require is that *if you sell Steam keys* (or they come included with another sale) you do not sell *those keys* below the usual asking price on Steam. Though this also does not have to be at the same time. E.g. you are allowed to sell on Itch for 10$ regularly and have a 5$ (50% off) discount for a time, if you also have a regular asking price of 10$ for the game on Steam and *also* sometimes (not necessarily at the very same time) offer that discount on Steam. Versions on other Storefronts that do not come with a Steam Key are not subject to any such requirements by Valve.

They just don't want you to be unfair to them. That is all they request and this sounds pretty reasonable to me.

 

[warheadd]

Random though, but this Harem is going to be quite crazy. The love dynamic will be very interesting that’s for sure. We have bookworms, a hot MILF (maybe more of them?), a stalker, a cheerleader, a latina chihuahua, a ”roommate” who is mad at us, a tattooed nympho, a trans-girl, and I think a BI couple? IDK if we have more girls or even less, but this is quite a lineup!

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Just to avoid that this false rumor spreads further, even though MissFortune already dispelled it: This is not true. Steam (or Valve for that matter) does *not* require anything with regards to pricing on other storefronts. The only thing they require is that *if you sell Steam keys* (or they come included with another sale) you do not sell *those keys* below the usual asking price on Steam. Though this also does not have to be at the same time. E.g. you are allowed to sell on Itch for 10$ regularly and have a 5$ (50% off) discount for a time, if you also have a regular asking price of 10$ for the game on Steam and *also* sometimes (not necessarily at the very same time) offer that discount on Steam. Versions on other Storefronts that do not come with a Steam Key are not subject to any such requirements by Valve.

They just don't want you to be unfair to them. That is all they request and this sounds pretty reasonable to me.

It isn't false, as other developers have said this directly and from Steam.

 

[MissFortune]

It isn't false, as other developers have said this directly and from Steam.

All Valve cares about is that you aren't selling their keys cheaper somewhere else. Itch.io, for example. Though, in almost all cases, prices are going to be the same everywhere.

They have zero legal right to control your prices on other stores.