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If that was true, they would go after all the "CD Key" sites....
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There are many developers that have said the exact same thing, and also the reason they stopped doing public releases.
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Those are third party sellers buying keys in regions where the cost allows them to resell for profit, not the developer/publisher selling keys for a fraction of what they sell on Steam..
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Devs aren't selling those. It's usually those 'reviewers' who ask for 4 (or more) non-curator keys in return for a review that typically never comes.
From the private dev subforum, but I'm sure Droosk won't mind all that much. Droosk is certainly one of the more knowledgeable devs about the topic (and a big reason why so many AVNs are moving to Steam now):
So, the devs who are using that as a reason to not put out public releases are likely misunderstanding what's being said. Not that I blame them for it, Steam's legalese and vagueness make it fairly easy to do.
Or if I were looking at it more cynically, it'd be a reason for devs to no longer put out a free version and thus likely make more from people who want it (e.g. [redacted] being banned here, so players were forced to use SS to get the game, thus more money.) sooner instead of waiting for someone to leak it.
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It's not just "some" developers, it's almost everyone that publishes on Steam (in the last year) has said about the price and being equal, and cannot be less. So, unless something has changed in the last year.
I'm not sure why people wouldn't want to be on Steam, besides I guess the 30% cut they keep, it seems stupid not to be since Steam doesn't care what content is there like Patreon does. You want incest, blackmail, rape? Sure....go ahead. Steam only cares about the imagery of "high school", sex in high school, which relates to underage and copyrighted content in someone's game. It seems they don't care about shovel ware and copy and paste games since there are tons and tons and tons and tons and tons and TONS of them. There are even games on Steam that are being sold by someone not the actual developer who made them, being stolen, and somehow still on Steam.
Telling you now, remove the part about that developer before 1, your comment is deleted, 2, you get warned by an overzealous mod. That dev cannot be discussed nor the game. That is why I removed it from your quote when I replied.
I still maintain, just like MissFortune, that they are mistaken. It is likely not intentional, since the legal stuff can be frightening and complicated, but noone that says this ever managed to quote any part of the steam ToS, Partern Agreement or Distribution Agreement that requires this, not even anonymously. Also it would not be legal. All "Most Favoured Nation" agreements are usually quickly put down in court (see e.g. the practice booking.com had in the past. At least for the EU they have been forbidden to do this).
Part of this misunderstanding is the issue with the EPIC / Sweeny frivolous lawsuit that put out lies / deceptive statements to this effect (without even knowing the details just stipulating that there might be some NDAed agreements or "secret contracts" that require this) and David Rosen from Wolfire, who blantantly lied about this. It is really annoying how that shit sticks after it has been thrown and devs do things based on these lies that have no merrit. See for example this link for some more details and links to articles:
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I would also like a source on this statement, because I am nearly 100% certain there isn't one:
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I don't really understand the question? If you sell the keys on another site for a price that is a sales price (say 50% off), then the expectation is that a similar sales price is also offered on steam at some point and for a similar duration. So I would say no, and argue that I would not try that as a dev. This could get you banned from steam ...
To be on the safe side I would always see to it that the average price over the year is roughly the same on Steam and on all places where a key ins included with the sale. This doesn't mean that there can't be points in time where they differ, and in fact there is ample evidence that this is often the case for many games. Just check isthereanydeal.com for a game that is e.g. on GreenManGaming (who usually have steam keys) and on Steam and check the price history.
Example: Doom 2016
In fact this shows that Steam seem to be quite lenient with the pricing policy here and you can even sell it for a lower price somewhere else for quite some time. But note, that there is always also Steam sales at those lowest price points.
To be on the safe side I would always see to it that the average price over the year is roughly the same on Steam and on all places where a key ins included with the sale. This doesn't mean that there can't be points in time where they differ, and in fact there is ample evidence that this is often the case for many games. Just check isthereanydeal.com for a game that is e.g. on GreenManGaming (who usually have steam keys) and on Steam and check the price history.
Example: Doom 2016
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In fact this shows that Steam seem to be quite lenient with the pricing policy here and you can even sell it for a lower price somewhere else for quite some time. But note, that there is always also Steam sales at those lowest price points.
MissFortune so on update 3.5, will we get a gallery of all the LI’s planned for now? Or just girls we have met so far in the story?
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Both. A page for the LIs, the flings/SGs/one night stands/etc., and the other female characters.
Thanks for the clarification, also this is the best looking info. page I have seen so far for characters in an AVN games based on just the video alone
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Yes, the new menu is nice and clean
, but you know what's wrong with it? There's no redhead, not even someone with a wig to make the joke .
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Since there is a futa/Trans tag.. can someone tell me which is present or will be be present? Is futa or Trans? Which is it?