VN Ren'Py Ms.Denvers [v0.1.1.8] [Pop Toc]

[athreusclouds]

Are you sure because as far as I know you cannot have Lois and Caveman on the same route or Faye or Gene on the same route.

I am sure. I've just rechecked everything. You can't get a scene between Wanda and Terrance at school and then get a scene with Wanda and Gene in the bathtub or her bedroom. The choice leading to the Gene scene just won't appear.

That's why i wrote earlier that none of the Denvers family members will appear as a LI for Wanda if your on a Terrance's path.

 

[Old Dog]

I am sure. I've just rechecked everything. You can't get a scene between Wanda and Terrance at school and then get a scene with Wanda and Gene in the bathtub or her bedroom. The choice leading to the Gene scene just won't appear.

That's why i wrote earlier that none of the Denvers family members will appear as a LI for Wanda if your on a Terrance's path.

Ok.I will have to check out my saves or start a new game.

 

[athreusclouds]

As soon as the player steps on Terrance's path at school both Faye and Gene are cut's off.

 

[Old Dog]

I am going to have to start again then O the joys.
This includes the Nicole event?

 

[athreusclouds]

This includes the Nicole event?

You can watch full event with Nicole, it won't ruin anything. If that's what you meant.
You can also watch full event with Harry coz there were no sex.

 

[Old Dog]

You can watch event with Nicole, it won't ruin anything. If that's what you meant.
You can also watch event with Harry coz there were no sex.

I started a new game and the only event I cannot get is the Gene peeking on Wanda in the bath. but I can get the Nicole/Lois/Janet so far and even when I go into the back of cafe with Caveman I still get the Lios picnic scene but no more Gene scenes.So the only excluded is the Gene scene

 

[athreusclouds]

I started a new game and the only event I cannot get is the Gene peeking on Wanda in the bath. but I can get the Nicole/Lois/Janet so far and even when I go into the back of cafe with Caveman I still get the Lios picnic scenebut no more Gene scenes

Well, you will succeed, i believe in you)
Don't forget about the walkthrough.

I'm off to see some dreams

 

[Old Dog]

Well, you will succeed, i believe in you)
Don't forget about the walkthrough.

I'm off to see some dreams

Goodnight mate

 

[Zick_Zack]

As soon as the player steps on Terrance's path at school both Faye and Gene are cut's off.

Yep, that's right. But now, I wonder if both Faye and Gene's paths will block the others from now on. Since so far, they are the only ones Wanda really falls in love with.

 

[fishbrain]

Yep, that's right. But now, I wonder if both Faye and Gene's paths will block the others from now on. Since so far, they are the only ones Wanda really falls in love with.

I think she's always been into Lois, it's just harder for her to be the aggressor. She's younger, less experienced, innocent, etc.. takes time but I'm here for it!

 

[Old Dog]

Ok 1 play through with caveman and gene is indeed cut off but I always thought that the Lois path wold be closed as well as I have gotten the cafe scene(back room) and Lois picnic scene which I have always thought where on separate routes.
The game is still a mess as I think the cut off points should of been earlier for Faye and some sort of warning comes up also if you tell Faye no she does the modeling anyway so why bother with this choice or did I mes up?

 

[athreusclouds]

Ok 1 play through with caveman and gene is indeed cut off but I always thought that the Lois path wold be closed as well as I have gotten the cafe scene(back room) and Lois picnic scene which I have always thought where on separate routes.
The game is still a mess as I think the cut off points should of been earlier for Faye and some sort of warning comes up also if you tell Faye no she does the modeling anyway so why bother with this choice or did I mes up?

I think devs deliberately did not divide all the characters into separate paths in the early stages of the game so that we could get to know them better in one playthrough without creating a bunch of save files from the very beginning. So everything that happened between Wanda and - Nicole, Gene, Terrance, Lois, Faye and Harry is a kind of foreplay before everything is serious and sex is underway and splits is really necessary.
I personally like this approach because i mostly spend my time on full-scale PC games then novels and i prefer to see all or as much content as possible on the first playthrough. I don't like all these dozens of saves and replaying the same game over and over again even if there is a quick skip feature.

They certainly should have added an additional 30-40 sentences about Wanda thoughts and emotions about all of this happening to her at the "same" time ofcourse. But, they didn't. Apparently the depth of Wanda's character is not very important for devs.

also if you tell Faye no she does the modeling anyway so why bother with this choice or did I mes up?

No, you didn't mess up anything.
It's just that there are no other options in the game. It's like a paper book with no choice at all)
The same thing happened with the option of asking Ben for help or not in which the game didn't take your decision into account at all. So i'm no longer even surprised by such details))

 

[Old Dog]

So if I got this right the only two characters that cannot be on the same save are Faye/Gene and Caveman/Gene?
Ok I think that I have my saves sorted.

 

[Old Dog]

I also noticed, but I will have to check this, that if Nicole does not interrupt Dolly/Wanda then Wanda walk out of the show later and leave Nicole

 

[athreusclouds]

I also noticed, but I will have to check this, that if Nicole does not interrupt Dolly/Wanda then Wanda walk out of the show later and leave Nicole

This will happen if Nicole and Wanda doesn't have enough "likes" between them)

I also noticed one interesting detail for the first time not long ago thanks to the walkthrough. It turned out that if Nicole has not enough "likes" with Wanda then there will be a different scene in the club event with Dolly. Wanda will be given a choice to accept/reject Dolly's offer even before Nicole will have an opportunity to interfere. If she accepts than Dolly calmly gives Wanda her phone number and leaves. But if Wanda rejects it will shut down Dolly path instantly.
Did you knew about this detail before?

Who knows, maybe it will be important in nearest update with Janet event?



Besides this, there is some kind of different conversations at day 20 about the modelling contract between Wanda & Faye. The requirement for which is to have less than 7 "likes" with the Gene and to be on Faye's path. But I haven’t looked at it or compared it yet. So the likes/points system still works in some ways.

 

[Old Dog]

Dolly gives you her number whether you want it not also if you interrupt Dolly/Wanda Nicole has 9 points and choice for Wanda for walk out.
If you don't interrupt Dolly/Wanda you get the flash back of Wanda/Nicole early days and Wanda still has the choice to walk out or not and Nicole has 8 points.

So either don't get Dolly number and get shown a flashback or accept number and get an extra point for Nicole and still the choice to walk out.

 

[athreusclouds]

Dolly gives you her number whether you want it not also if you interrupt Dolly/Wanda Nicole has 9 points and choice for Wanda for walk out.
If you don't interrupt Dolly/Wanda you get the flash back of Wanda/Nicole early days and Wanda still has the choice to walk out or not and Nicole has 8 points.

So either don't get Dolly number and get shown a flashback or accept number and get an extra point for Nicole and still the choice to walk out.

I think you're a little confused or maybe i'm too sleepy already. But, if Nicole interrupts Dolly, Wanda won't take Dolly's phone number, which will close Dolly's path as a love interest for Wanda. The flashback will occur regardless of whether Nicole interrupts Dolly's advances or not. For the flashback to occur Nicole simply needs to have more than 2 "likes" from Wanda.

Anyway. The important thing is that Nicole and Dolly are probably will be mutually exclusive. However, Dolly's future as a love interest for Wanda is uncertain because devs wanted to think about the fates of third-party characters in general after they release the full 0.12 update. They might even rewrite someone and remove it love interest role from the plot - Dolly, Vincent, Gavin.
I'll definitely curse them if they remove old bastard Gavin and Wanda's part-time job at his house from the future plot)

 

[Old Dog]

I think you're a little confused or maybe i'm too sleepy already. But, if Nicole interrupts Dolly, Wanda won't take Dolly's phone number, which will close Dolly's path as a love interest for Wanda. The flashback will occur regardless of whether Nicole interrupts Dolly's advances or not. For the flashback to occur Nicole simply needs to have more than 2 "likes" from Wanda.

Anyway. The important thing is that Nicole and Dolly are probably will be mutually exclusive. However, Dolly's future as a love interest for Wanda is uncertain because devs wanted to think about the fates of third-party characters in general after they release the full 0.12 update. They might even rewrite someone and remove it love interest role from the plot - Dolly, Vincent, Gavin.
I'll definitely curse them if they remove old bastard Gavin and Wanda's part-time job at his house from the future plot)

Dolly only gives her number to Wanda if Nicole does not interrupt them and yes you are right the flashback happens anyway regardless.

 

[Zick_Zack]

I think she's always been into Lois, it's just harder for her to be the aggressor. She's younger, less experienced, innocent, etc.. takes time but I'm here for it!

Yeah, you have a point, because unlike Gene and Faye, who are more active and persistent with Wanda, Lois is more innocent, which might slow her progress with Wanda down a bit. But anyway, I think that in her route Wanda will end up, just like Gene and Faye, declaring her love for her.

 

[Old Dog]

I find it kind of creepy that Wanda is trying to seduce lois either with sexual or romance traits but lets see how the dev handles this.
Waiting for a couple to come up,Nicole,Janet and how Lois will react when she finds out what her mother has been up to.



I feel sorry for her.