StrontiumBob

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the only question is why every game has to follow ntr and similar stuff. we already have bunch of ntr games these day, i dont hate ntr but come on why every game has to be ntr. are we run out of creativity or what :LOL:
I really do hate NTR. If there was a way to block me seeing every game on this site that has it I would use it.
 
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Yeah, another good incest game ruined :FacePalm:

I thought, why didn’t I get these updates on my latest update page? Only then did I realize that the tag was on my ignore list, due to this swinging tag. Now I don't get updates :ROFLMAO:
So the developer started a new fetishes, along with pissing and pet play.

Now my question is, did the developer forewarn that this would happen on any platforms?
If anyone knows?

"That's why I/we/everyone are asking for planned tags in every threads".

Damn, it’s been 5 years, lol...

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I really do hate NTR. If there was a way to block me seeing every game on this site that has it I would use it.
All of the stuff you describe, though, is avoidable. Rin only pisses if you either keep going (much earlier in the game) when she warns the MC that she's going to pee herself, and then if you allow her to piss in this update (rather than telling her it's something she shouldn't do). This latter thing is because she's not thinking clearly; something with the MC's power (at least, as far as we know) isn't working the way it's supposed to. But you can still avoid that by telling Rin no when she asks.

There is no netorare in the game; I don't know why people keep bringing that up. However, I understand the dislike of the gloryhole stuff and swinging. But again, that's is avoidable, so you don't have to see it if you don't choose things that lead you down that path.

Rin's clearly acting out of character with this latest, wanting to do stuff that shows less and less good judgement. She's not always been the wisest, but she's ridiculously careless in this update, meaning she's not her normal self. So you can keep her from doing any of the stuff you don't want in this latest by just telling her no. (The exception is the pet play, which will exist in some fashion, but which you can prevent from going too extreme.) Saying no to her when she wants to piss in front of people, for example, doesn't hurt her relationship with the MC. In fact, she might even thank him for stopping her (she does at least when he says no to the gloryhole).
 

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There is no netorare in the game; I don't know why people keep bringing that up. However, I understand the dislike of the gloryhole stuff and swinging. But again, that's is avoidable, so you don't have to see it if you don't choose things that lead you down that path.
gg action is ntr for some.
 

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gg action is ntr for some.
Yeah, but I really don't care what a limited number of people interpret something to be just because they don't like it. That's IMO an asinine way of tagging things. People calling stuff NTR when it's actually not is a serious problem. Everyone who actually likes that fetish would be led to believe this game would be something they'd enjoy. That's like if one character gives another a single slap in the game, or if the MC's best friend always slugs him in the arm when they first meet up, and so it gets the graphic violence tag.

It's incredibly misleading to give out tags just because a small (but very vocal, unfortunately) minority of folks have their own interpretations that almost nobody else shares. "If a girl is with anyone other than the MC, it's NTR" is in direct conflict with "I'm looking for an MC who regularly gets humiliated and cucked by love interests and becomes extremely jealous of others taking his women." And since those having the second opinion are, in fact, the folks for whom netorare is actually intended, their definition should supersede incorrect interpretations by other groups not interested in that.

How would harem folks feel if someone who doesn't care (or maybe even doesn't like) harems tried to tell them what actually qualifies as a harem? It makes no sense. Yet apparently it's OK to tell NTR folks what qualifies as their own fetish. SMH. And to be clear: I say all of this as someone who's neutral on both fetishes.
 

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All of the stuff you describe, though, is avoidable. Rin only pisses if you either keep going (much earlier in the game) when she warns the MC that she's going to pee herself, and then if you allow her to piss in this update (rather than telling her it's something she shouldn't do). This latter thing is because she's not thinking clearly; something with the MC's power (at least, as far as we know) isn't working the way it's supposed to. But you can still avoid that by telling Rin no when she asks.

There is no netorare in the game; I don't know why people keep bringing that up. However, I understand the dislike of the gloryhole stuff and swinging. But again, that's is avoidable, so you don't have to see it if you don't choose things that lead you down that path.

Rin's clearly acting out of character with this latest, wanting to do stuff that shows less and less good judgement. She's not always been the wisest, but she's ridiculously careless in this update, meaning she's not her normal self. So you can keep her from doing any of the stuff you don't want in this latest by just telling her no. (The exception is the pet play, which will exist in some fashion, but which you can prevent from going too extreme.) Saying no to her when she wants to piss in front of people, for example, doesn't hurt her relationship with the MC. In fact, she might even thank him for stopping her (she does at least when he says no to the gloryhole).
There is no ntr: For now, no one knows whether this will happen or not, even the developer don't know :ROFLMAO:..
I'm saying this because, now swinging, no one knows what's coming next (maybe sharing, but of course, it will be optional :LUL:).

It's optional: You know, this is just the beginning. Once you start bringing this into the story, you can't drop it in the middle. It means you’ll need more content for satisfying others.

I'm asking again, why add this content now? It's not like the game lacks enough sex/fetish contents, right?
then, why are you introducing it now instead of during the past five years?
Most importantly, there are no planned tags, and there was no mention that this would happen here or any other platforms.
This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't trust games like this, even if the game is 5 years old. After seeing this kind of attempt, there's no reason to trust it.


Personally, I don't engage with this type of content (swinging/sharing, or whatever you prefer to call it in terms of tags), even though it's optional.
Her character has already been ruined by introducing this nonsense. Now, she's no longer a love interest, but just someone of lesser interest.

So, can I permanently avoid this character (Rin)?
Because if I want to play this game, this is the only option I have now.

That's my point of view. If I want to watch random sex, there are tons of websites for that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
And hey, this is a pirate site, not a developer's den. I’m just sharing my thoughts on how I’m seeing her as a character after this content, and there’s no need for us to argue or fight over it.
 

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Does anyone subscribed to any of the dev's page/Discord know what's going on after the current update? I'm curious to know if people have asked questions (or demanded answers), and responses the dev has provided.

This is purely curiosity, since this wasn't planned (at least, not on the form of tags on this page), I would like to know what plans the dev has, and why they decided on this approach.

So far, although Rin, as a character, has dropped a few places for me, I still like her, the content is optional, and as a freeloader, I'm obviously willing to give the benefit of the doubt, and see what happens next. But as of right now, I'm hoping the story advances further, and we get some progression with Lin.
 

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Does anyone subscribed to any of the dev's page/Discord know what's going on after the current update? I'm curious to know if people have asked questions (or demanded answers), and responses the dev has provided.

This is purely curiosity, since this wasn't planned (at least, not on the form of tags on this page), I would like to know what plans the dev has, and why they decided on this approach.

So far, although Rin, as a character, has dropped a few places for me, I still like her, the content is optional, and as a freeloader, I'm obviously willing to give the benefit of the doubt, and see what happens next. But as of right now, I'm hoping the story advances further, and we get some progression with Lin.
Dev is in here to, go silent. The thing is, this content is optional until it isnt. When you start doing content like this of course in future you need more content for that path. take an example desert stalker, they doing sharing content and now their discord full with people asking for more sharing content.
Pretty sure this one is no different, soon when dev doing for more people with ntr/sharing fetish will flooded.
Tbh i like ntr game to but i've said before, why every game has turn into ntr game ? are we losing some creativity or something ! :)
 

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I'm usually not one to complain about tags, especially when they were planned for a long time or were there, but when tags are added unexpectedly like this, it's a bit of a blow below...
I always knew and thought that this game was vanilla or little corruption with romance, but...

now as sad as it sounds, it's weird to see "swinging" in tags...

I have no complaints about "swing" or "ntr", because everyone has their own preference and perversion, but changing the plot like this with an unexpected turn, it always causes trouble from fans who crave ntr content and from vanilla fans. Although I myself am a fan of harem games, but I avoid such arguments... it's a bit strange that in some games developers started adding tags unexpectedly related to ntr and swing, now it's already trending

in general, I hope in the future these contents will be optional, because I like this game and the direction the Dev was going. I just wish the developer luck and don't jump to conclusions just because fans want such scenes, just follow your plan!
 
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what do you mean "why"? same question can be asked "why not add sharing?". why? is not an argument that suddenly provides reasons not to do something lol
Dude, don't get me wrong, I know you're a huge fan of "sharing", but every story has a line that shouldn't be taken with an unexpected twist right away!
You understand perfectly well what this situation will lead to, which didn't even hint at such scenes, except for corruption...

every game has its own style and story, and where the plot is initially heading and then bam and suddenly the plot changes.. so developers should always warn about such things for planned, I'm sure you'll understand such a thing.

Everyone is free to write criticism and opinions ;)
 
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Well, I've just finished reading the contents of the update and I've read the last few pages of comments and for once, I'm adding my opinion, because, the discussion about the NTR looks civilized and, it's nice.
Personally, I don't mind the NTR, for example, I love “Long Story Short”, which would be pointless (for me) without it. But I'm not obsessed with that, what interests me is characters with a minimum of personality and consistent behavior, and if that requires NTR to justify it, no problem.
In this, Rin is in the continuity of her character, going into every possible fetishism, my problem is that she's only defined by this and that it becomes her only interest...
For me (it's just my opinion), the NTR is anecdotal, the problem is that the author doesn't really know where he's going with his story, and in the meantime, he fills in the gaps with Rin to keep his audience interested. Easier and quicker to do than to continue developing Lin and Annie's story, for example, I've come to wonder what other new fetishes of Rin we're going to get in future updates rather than the continuation of the story...
But I understand the anti-NTR stance in this case, even if it's avoidable... there's a problem ;)
 
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Well, I've just finished reading the contents of the update and I've read the last few pages of comments and for once, I'm adding my opinion, because, the discussion about the NTR looks civilized and, it's nice.
Personally, I don't mind the NTR, for example, I love “Long Story Short”, which would be pointless (for me) without it. But I'm not obsessed with that, what interests me is characters with a minimum of personality and consistent behavior, and if that requires NTR to justify it, no problem.
In this, Rin is in the continuity of her character, going into every possible fetishism, my problem is that she's only defined by this and that it becomes her only interest...
For me (it's just my opinion), the NTR is anecdotal, the problem is that the author doesn't really know where he's going with his story, and in the meantime, he fills in the gaps with Rin to keep his audience interested. Easier and quicker to do than to continue developing Lin and Annie's story, for example, I've come to wonder what other new fetishes of Rin we're going to get in future updates rather than the continuation of the story.
But I understand the anti-NTR stance in this case, even if it's avoidable... there's a problem ;)
I think (as I said earlier) that some things happening in this update are likely because the power is broken somehow, whether caused by Selene's comalike state or affected in the same way Selene directly is. Ofc we still don't know why Selene is the way she is, but I think it stands to reason that her power could also be screwed up as well.

Despite her exploring of her boundaries, she actually acted fairly out of character this time. Other than her pet play, this wasn't just "I wanna try something new." Rin likes sex with risk of being seen, but not actually getting caught. I don't remember her ever expressing any interest in voyeurism, let alone something as extreme as interacting with a gloryhole. And, in fact, a "mindless" stat was introduced in this update for the MC allowing her to go off the rails. I doubt it would be called "mindless" unless the intention is that it's not actually Rin's will to do those things, but some kind of "malfunction" in Selene's power.

I understand the concern about too much new stuff (disliked by some) being introduced, but I do think this still falls in line with the story. While I could definitely agree that some updates in the past that were solely Rin felt more like filler (even though I really like her), I don't think the same is true this time. The power negatively affected Rin and making her become a mindless puppet, driven forward by unnatural lust. That sounds like it's still very much in line with the recent development in the overarching plot of the game.
 

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I think (as I said earlier) that some things happening in this update are likely because the power is broken somehow, whether caused by Selene's comalike state or affected in the same way Selene directly is. Ofc we still don't know why Selene is the way she is, but I think it stands to reason that her power could also be screwed up as well.

Despite her exploring of her boundaries, she actually acted fairly out of character this time. Other than her pet play, this wasn't just "I wanna try something new." Rin likes sex with risk of being seen, but not actually getting caught. I don't remember her ever expressing any interest in voyeurism, let alone something as extreme as interacting with a gloryhole. And, in fact, a "mindless" stat was introduced in this update for the MC allowing her to go off the rails. I doubt it would be called "mindless" unless the intention is that it's not actually Rin's will to do those things, but some kind of "malfunction" in Selene's power.

I understand the concern about too much new stuff (disliked by some) being introduced, but I do think this still falls in line with the story. While I could definitely agree that some updates in the past that were solely Rin felt more like filler (even though I really like her), I don't think the same is true this time. The power negatively affected Rin and making her become a mindless puppet, driven forward by unnatural lust. That sounds like it's still very much in line with the recent development in the overarching plot of the game.
I hear so many times when devs decided add ntr/sharing content in the game, that for the plot. That not excuse.

Dev can do so many, but without controversial content, especially if the game never been adversised for that content.

Rin acting out of character because that content, you can't introduce ntr/sharing content in the 5 year old game without that type of content, and not break characters behaviour. That why ppl don't like when that type of kinks introduced in the middle of the game (even if that avoidable), because it's not only controversial and never been advertised, but it breaks characters behaviour.
 

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I hear so many times when devs decided add ntr/sharing content in the game, that for the plot. That not excuse.

Dev can do so many, but without controversial content, especially if the game never been adversised for that content.

Rin acting out of character because that content, you can't introduce ntr/sharing content in the 5 year old game without that type of content, and not break characters behaviour. That why ppl don't like when that type of kinks introduced in the middle of the game (even if that avoidable), because it's not only controversial and never been advertised, but it breaks characters behaviour.
CM already said why it might be happening lol. also what behaviour? Rin always acted slutty, there was a scene in the train where she showed herself to stranger. you guys are so funny with your moronic nitpicks used so you are able to rationalize your completely asinine hate to one (!!!) optional scene in multiple hour long game lol.
also its almost always you who completely disregard character behaviour because for people like you there is only one modus operandi - "why ntr", you are not starting from a character and see if his/her decisions are explainable, no no no. you are starting from your moronic "harem" stance which has nothing to do with a game itself, and then try to bend and twist narrative to suit your tastes. quite an interesting trait for someone who is claiming to self insert into these games lol.
 

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Actually, if it's directly tied to the plot, that actually is a reasonable excuse. Agree to disagree.
Imo, game devs can add whatever content they want, it's their game, after all. If they want to listen to other folks, follow the money, etc., that's up to them. But the valid point from folks is that this is a fetish rugpull -- adding a new fetish after the game has been in development for a while already. I.e., there have been expectations built up over a long period of time about the type of content and then 'suddenly' something new, unexpected, and undesired was added. As folks have pointed out, planned tags were never established, though.

I'd be interested to know what actual patrons think, since they've sunk money into game and since I'm just a dirty pirate sailing the F95 seas.
 
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Imo, game devs can add whatever content they want, it's their game, after all. If they want to listen to other folks, follow the money, etc., that's up to them. But the valid point from folks is that this is a fetish rugpull -- adding a new fetish after the game has been in development for a while already. I.e., there have been expectations built up over a long period of time about the type of content and then 'suddenly' something new, unexpected, and undesired was added. As folks have pointed out, planned tags were never established, though.

I'd be interested to know what actual patrons think, since they've sunk money into game and since I'm just a dirty pirate sailing the F95 seas.
I agree and also think it seemed out of nowhere. That's why I've theorized as I have (already covered by me multiple times now) what I feel is actually going on, so hopefully I'm right. For me, the issue would really be moreso that it's not in character with the behavior already established for Rin. She's done some risky things, but outright blatant disregard for common sense and sudden desire to do something with someone else while she's with the MC hasn't been anything she's ever done or expressed a desire for previously. So hopefully whenever Selene gets better (I assume she will), the erratic behavior will stop as well.
 
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