VN Ren'Py My Best Deal [v3.7] [Pirot King]

[qwoppe]

i mean, i never even think doing incest irl. but this is just me, i see some people cant tell the different between irl and fantasy story.
i'm not trying to debate with you btw.

I don't think about it either but I bet I would be if people were doing it left and right.

I'm just shitposting anyway. The Westermarck effect is very real and applies to me same as it does to everyone else.

 

[taishon]

Can' say there weren't any signs, but those signs were limited to voyeurism and whatnot. I even had to trackback my "park event" decisions, and choose every safe option in case the outcome could've been changed. I was hopefully expecting that we could affect it somehow, maybe she would react at last minute since the action she was about to perform was so "out-of-the-norm (?)", but big NOPE, no previous decision can affect it.

I'm not sure about this, but if this was planned, shouldn't the tags been updated, at least on the previous update, a "planned" section would been a good heads-up.

Does the game can be considered "netorare"? I'm asking just for the tag "norm", because if we take the dialogue during the scene into consideration, this would probably be "netorase".

Not a hater of any of those, not my favorite tags, and I like the agency and having the options to see every scene even if I already have a vanilla path set in mind, and although that scene was completely optional, I'm still not completely sure how to feel about it. It wasn't forced, but at the same time, it was "sudden" in a way. I understand we're dealing with mindcontrol, corruption, etc, but it wouldn't be the first game with those tags without needing to involve risky consequences of non-mentioned tags/genres such as "netorare", and "netorase".

I'm only stating my own opinion based on whom I consider an LI in this game, and I could still be way off about it, but at least, so far I thought this was a "pseudo-harem/solo-male" game.

Still great scenes, the animations are very well done, and looking forward to seeing more progress on the story itself, and perhaps scenes with other characters.

 

[With The]

Can' say there weren't any signs, but those signs were limited to voyeurism and whatnot. I even had to trackback my "park event" decisions, and choose every safe option in case the outcome could've been changed. I was hopefully expecting that we could affect it somehow, maybe she would react at last minute since the action she was about to perform was so "out-of-the-norm (?)", but big NOPE, no previous decision can affect it.

I'm not sure about this, but if this was planned, shouldn't the tags been updated, at least on the previous update, a "planned" section would been a good heads-up.

Does the game can be considered "netorare"? I'm asking just for the tag "norm", because if we take the dialogue during the scene into consideration, this would probably be "netorase".

Not a hater of any of those, not my favorite tags, and I like the agency and having the options to see every scene even if I already have a vanilla path set in mind, and although that scene was completely optional, I'm still not completely sure how to feel about it. It wasn't forced, but at the same time, it was "sudden" in a way. I understand we're dealing with mindcontrol, corruption, etc, but it wouldn't be the first game with those tags without needing to involve risky consequences of non-mentioned tags/genres such as "netorare", and "netorase".

I'm only stating my own opinion based on whom I consider an LI in this game, and I could still be way off about it, but at least, so far I thought this was a "pseudo-harem/solo-male" game.

Still great scenes, the animations are very well done, and looking forward to seeing more progress on the story itself, and perhaps scenes with other characters.

the only question is why every game has to follow ntr and similar stuff. we already have bunch of ntr games these day, i dont hate ntr but come on why every game has to be ntr. are we run out of creativity or what

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

tbh i dont like either what dev heading now, i though this is just vanilla vn but now i think soon turn into freak fetish and some random stuff

I'm not sure how male domination (Collins and Victoria), incest (Molly and Rin), urination (Rin), and mind control (everybody except Pandy and the goddesses) qualify as "vanilla" content. I suppose everyone has different opinions, but typically those are considered at least nonstandard fetishes.

I love how we all accept incest with pregnancy to be a subcategory of vanilla now. One can only hope advancements in genetics will see that our descendents feel the same about IRL.

...And with that thought, I'm ready to fap now.

I think pregnancy is generally seen as relatively close to vanilla; it's certainly not extreme like bestiality or scat. But I for sure agree on urination, at least. That is absolutely not vanilla as far as I can tell, based on the responses of folks over the years.

Can' say there weren't any signs, but those signs were limited to voyeurism and whatnot. I even had to trackback my "park event" decisions, and choose every safe option in case the outcome could've been changed. I was hopefully expecting that we could affect it somehow, maybe she would react at last minute since the action she was about to perform was so "out-of-the-norm (?)", but big NOPE, no previous decision can affect it.

I'm not sure about this, but if this was planned, shouldn't the tags been updated, at least on the previous update, a "planned" section would been a good heads-up.

Does the game can be considered "netorare"? I'm asking just for the tag "norm", because if we take the dialogue during the scene into consideration, this would probably be "netorase".

Not a hater of any of those, not my favorite tags, and I like the agency and having the options to see every scene even if I already have a vanilla path set in mind, and although that scene was completely optional, I'm still not completely sure how to feel about it. It wasn't forced, but at the same time, it was "sudden" in a way. I understand we're dealing with mindcontrol, corruption, etc, but it wouldn't be the first game with those tags without needing to involve risky consequences of non-mentioned tags/genres such as "netorare", and "netorase".

I'm only stating my own opinion based on whom I consider an LI in this game, and I could still be way off about it, but at least, so far I thought this was a "pseudo-harem/solo-male" game.

Still great scenes, the animations are very well done, and looking forward to seeing more progress on the story itself, and perhaps scenes with other characters.

Normally something like a gloryhole would be netorase / sharing, like you suggest.

the only question is why every game has to follow ntr and similar stuff. we already have bunch of ntr games these day, i dont hate ntr but come on why every game has to be ntr. are we run out of creativity or what

It's not even close to "every game" doing this. There are tons of games where this is not an option. But if a dev wants to add this content, I would guess either it's been requested by their patrons or they are trying to provide additional options to expand their player base. And this scene, BTW, wouldn't even come close to satisfying someone into netorare. It probably would only appeal to someone into netorase, and even that would depend on the person. Not every netorase lover would like the sharing to be with some unknown person who might have a variety of STIs or similar. And, just like for monogamy / harem fans, it stands to reason there is a subset of netorase fans who wouldn't like the idea of anything at all happening in a bathroom because of hygiene.

 

[cxx]

Could you write on front page info that saves won't load if someone tries to use compressed version saves on normal game?

report op and inform about your concerns.

 

[postoi12]

All these optional choices with Rin seem unusually strange.

You don't want to piss in her mouth - she doesn't like it.
You don't like showing her off to others - she doesn't like it.
You don't want her to suck off some stranger in a glory hole - she doesn't like it again, although for 30 seconds we hear from her "I belong to you" "I'm the Master's bitch" and similar things throughout the game.

In general, I don't like where her route is going. Peace

 

[Vortex@]

So is this glory hole scene optional before I play? Not interested in forced NTR cuck content, good thing I wasn't a subscriber. Another dev added to the cuck list

 

[taishon]

All these optional choices with Rin seem unusually strange.

You don't want to piss in her mouth - she doesn't like it.
You don't like showing her off to others - she doesn't like it.
You don't want her to suck off some stranger in a glory hole - she doesn't like it again, although for 30 seconds we hear from her "I belong to you" "I'm the Master's bitch" and similar things throughout the game.

In general, I don't like where her route is going. Peace

Something that also I found a bit odd is that if you choose NOT TO let her go ahead with it, the dialogue afterwards infers that she was a bit "aware" of what was happening, but not in "fully" control. You could feel her relief when she thanked you for stopping her. I was hoping that by selecting the "sharing" option, the outcome dialogue would be around it as well, maybe she would regret saying she didn't want to, but for some reason (your powers) she couldn't stop, heck, maybe even a fight about what didn't you stop her, or why did it look like you were enjoying letting her do that. I would've been more inclined to enjoy the outcome of the player consequences by going a step "too far" with Rin. This sort of action could've potentially granted us different paths, like Rin going back to her sister and opening to her, or Rin not talking to you for a while, and then the MC trying to redeem or giving up the path (an stretch, I know).

This is solely based on that last dialogue, if she hadn't expressed the way she did when she stopped it, I wouldn't even think about it, but it did seem Rin didn't want to do that, even when she does, she mentions MC is the only one for her, meaning that MC's powers are affecting beyond what's manageable.

I always thought the "love" powers were to increase an already inherently feeling, and although Rin is always horny af, I was almost 100% sure that it was for MC.

 

[taishon]

So is this glory hole scene optional before I play? Not interested in forced NTR cuck content, good thing I wasn't a subscriber

Completely optional.

 

[With The]

All these optional choices with Rin seem unusually strange.

You don't want to piss in her mouth - she doesn't like it.
You don't like showing her off to others - she doesn't like it.
You don't want her to suck off some stranger in a glory hole - she doesn't like it again, although for 30 seconds we hear from her "I belong to you" "I'm the Master's bitch" and similar things throughout the game.

In general, I don't like where her route is going. Peace

must be different rin dev give optional but not really optional.

 

[TigerWolfe]

well if the dev wants to insert that shit, and wants to continue the pet play, we should be able to beat the shit out of her for just thinking about using that glory hole.

well you're a little unhinged.

 

[indio68]

All these optional choices with Rin seem unusually strange.

You don't want to piss in her mouth - she doesn't like it.
You don't like showing her off to others - she doesn't like it.
You don't want her to suck off some stranger in a glory hole - she doesn't like it again, although for 30 seconds we hear from her "I belong to you" "I'm the Master's bitch" and similar things throughout the game.

In general, I don't like where her route is going. Peace

spoiler

 

[indio68]

why always RIN content?? even now that his sis is coming around too?? why no more content with Mom and Anna? rin is hot and crazy i give that, but she had so much contents compared to others girls..c'mon dev..and pls give us an update only file to dowload

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

All these optional choices with Rin seem unusually strange.

You don't want to piss in her mouth - she doesn't like it.
You don't like showing her off to others - she doesn't like it.
You don't want her to suck off some stranger in a glory hole - she doesn't like it again, although for 30 seconds we hear from her "I belong to you" "I'm the Master's bitch" and similar things throughout the game.

In general, I don't like where her route is going. Peace

Something that also I found a bit odd is that if you choose NOT TO let her go ahead with it, the dialogue afterwards infers that she was a bit "aware" of what was happening, but not in "fully" control. You could feel her relief when she thanked you for stopping her. I was hoping that by selecting the "sharing" option, the outcome dialogue would be around it as well, maybe she would regret saying she didn't want to, but for some reason (your powers) she couldn't stop, heck, maybe even a fight about what didn't you stop her, or why did it look like you were enjoying letting her do that. I would've been more inclined to enjoy the outcome of the player consequences by going a step "too far" with Rin. This sort of action could've potentially granted us different paths, like Rin going back to her sister and opening to her, or Rin not talking to you for a while, and then the MC trying to redeem or giving up the path (an stretch, I know).

This is solely based on that last dialogue, if she hadn't expressed the way she did when she stopped it, I wouldn't even think about it, but it did seem Rin didn't want to do that, even when she does, she mentions MC is the only one for her, meaning that MC's powers are affecting beyond what's manageable.

I always thought the "love" powers were to increase an already inherently feeling, and although Rin is always horny af, I was almost 100% sure that it was for MC.

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[Cpt.SumTingWong]

Nice update, Rin glory hole

 

[qwoppe]

I think the character struggle with Molly is her guilt, with Collins it's the sleazy power struggle, with Lin it's her jealousy, and with Annie it's trauma. With Rin I'm guessing it's meant to be her overwhelming lust.

Now, that works pretty well when it interacts with the struggles of others. The plot with her and Molly promises a less inhibited Molly and a hot oyakodon on top when it gets resolved. With Lin it's a loving sibling thruple, with Collins it's getting dommed together with Rin since I'm on the sub path, and it could be something akin to sexual healing with Annie (on the love path). Rin's plots not only help solve other plots but also amplify their rewards for people who like banging multiple hot chicks who are also banging each other (i.e. sane people).

It doesn't quite work well when she's on her own, at least past the initial phase where we get introduced to her sex-crazed character. You'd need to keep upping the ante that way, and it's already too far up for most of the audience, as seen by many reactions ITT. I say that as a guy who personally did like it, but I'm unsurprised all the same.

Also, refusing the scene gets you no scene instead of an alternate, more vanilla scene. A slut path and a non-slut path would have been an okay way to handle things, probably, except that would cost the dev more time per update and so the audience would end up losing interest anyway.

It's probably time for this game to start more aggressively laying the foundations of the implied harem or harem-esque ending before it overstays its welcome and gets a rushed race to the ending. It's time for the plots to start converging. That's the only effective way forward for it I can see.

 

[cxx]

why always RIN content??

rin needs more RINging and gRINding.

 

[briansanders]

does someone have the savefile from the previous version?

 

[Chucke1992]

I am really curious how it is going to end with Rin, considering that she is becoming basically a mindless nymphomaniac at this point.

 

[romo-ice]

Not to start a shitstorm/debate, but in that bathroom scene, Rin only asks for permission to look and doesn't ask for permission before she does what she does. I didn't finish the scene, so I don't know if the MC encourages her behavior or not, but regardless, a tag needs to be added to this game, either group sex (for sharing content) or netorare. Someone who's actually gone through the scene (or Pirot King), can let folks know how the MC reacts.

Edit: I double checked the tag definitions and the swinging tag covers sharing content