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Dessolos

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In my opinion, NTR is a useless genre, mind as well make the MC female and let her be a whore.
if it was only about lewd scenes id agree but I like that genre for the relationship aspect of it over the lewd scenes. Tho I have yet to try it in this game as for me NTR with incest doesn't work.
 

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Typo when first texting with Lucia.

>Jake: (She clearly needs a firm had[hand] to keep her in check.)

Just so it looks more polished for Steam release.
 

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if it was only about lewd scenes id agree but I like that genre for the relationship aspect of it over the lewd scenes. Tho I have yet to try it in this game as for me NTR with incest doesn't work.
Let me explain with numbers: in a game with Vanilla and NTR, it's very annoying when you need 1000 points to even get a BJ from the LIs in the vanilla path, when the same LIs require 0.001 points from anyone else to become cum dumpsters in the NTR path. You want to make an NTR path? Fine, be coherent: either the LI is a though nut to crack in both paths or a cheap whore in both paths.
If you have to make an NTR path just to depict a whore that enjoys humiliate the "boyfriend", then better to create a game with a female MC that you can play as a whore.
 

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Let me explain with numbers: in a game with Vanilla and NTR, it's very annoying when you need 1000 points to even get a BJ from the LIs in the vanilla path, when the same LIs require 0.001 points from anyone else to become cum dumpsters in the NTR path. You want to make an NTR path? Fine, be coherent: either the LI is a though nut to crack in both paths or a cheap whore in both paths.
If you have to make an NTR path just to depict a whore that enjoys humiliate the "boyfriend", then better to create a game with a female MC that you can play as a whore.
Let me explain with rationality:

In this game you play as the Bimbo's son. The MC has a over 18 years of non-sexual familial relationship with her. She want to get out of her shell and explore her sexuality. Who do you think she'll see first? Some random guys she has no emotion toward with whom she can have meaningless sex? Some confident older man who unbeknownst to her will attempt to manipulate her? Perhaps her son's best friend, whose shy and virginal personality feel so very cute and endearing to her and can see their individual sexual journey somewhat similarly or her son, whom she never seen him in a sexual light until very recently?

If you have answered in the order i presented them to you then DING DING DING YOU ARE A WINNER! The first guy she fucks is a rando who she will never purposely see again. The next guy is a creep who abuse her trust. Her son's best friend is the likeliest candidate to whom she'd consider since it's both very bimbo-esque to fuck a guy who's her son's age but he's also a sweet guy who won't abuse her. The Taboo of incest is something a lot of these incest game actually fail to consider and make it have weight.
 
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Let me explain with numbers: in a game with Vanilla and NTR, it's very annoying when you need 1000 points to even get a BJ from the LIs in the vanilla path, when the same LIs require 0.001 points from anyone else to become cum dumpsters in the NTR path. You want to make an NTR path? Fine, be coherent: either the LI is a though nut to crack in both paths or a cheap whore in both paths.
If you have to make an NTR path just to depict a whore that enjoys humiliate the "boyfriend", then better to create a game with a female MC that you can play as a whore.
I mean I get what you saying however I will say you comment feels random as fuck to me. As it has nothing to do with why I like the genre from what I was saying or why I disagreed with your original comment.

But I also disagree with your statement , I don't think a vanilla and NTR / NTS path need to go at the same speed at all unless the LI is a virgin but then NTR would make even less sense to me as it would need to be a slow burn corruption process or something similar. If you have lets say a party girl LI that is open minded I think it would make sense it doesn't take as long to do NTR content with others if the MC is into it and has her trust at least for a sharing path.

But also what you said also doesn't really make sense at least to me. Because most NTR / NTS games I've played the LI is already a wife or girlfriend. So there is no need to gather points for a BJ or whatever most of the time anyways as they have an established relationship usually. There are rare exceptions that but they aren't common at least from what ive played. So the speed of a NTR path usually comes to how into the fetish the dev makes the MC and how open the LI is for sharing. The better NTS games for me it comes down are for sure the slower paced ones as when they go to fast they rarely work out that well and usually are more or less guilty pleasures for fun / a game for the lewds.

I can't say much for actual NTR / cheating as I mostly only play sharing games when it comes to NTR content but id imagine the pacing of it should be about the same as a sharing path unless there is a narrative reason for the LI to cheat.
 
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You aint gonna find a hero in the 35 dollar tier, probably not in the 15 dollar tier either. Maybe when it releases for the 9 dollar tier in like 10 days someone might leak it.
 
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Let me explain with rationality:

In this game you play as the Bimbo's son. The MC has a over 18 years of non-sexual familial relationship with her. She want to get out of her shell and explore her sexuality. Who do you think she'll see first? Some random guys she has no emotion toward with whom she can have meaningless sex? Some confident older man who unbeknownst to her will attempt to manipulate her? Perhaps her son's best friend, whose shy and virginal personality feel so very cute and endearing to her and can see their individual sexual journey somewhat similarly or her son, whom she never seen him in a sexual light until very recently?

If you have answered in the order i presented them to you then DING DING DING YOU ARE A WINNER! The first guy she fucks is a rando who she will never purposely see again. The next guy is a creep who abuse her trust. Her son's best friend is the likeliest candidate to whom she'd consider since it's both very bimbo-esque to fuck a guy who's her son's age but he's also a sweet guy who won't abuse her. The Taboo of incest is something a lot of these incest game actually fail to consider and make it have weight.
By using this "age old routine" justification, many optional NTR incest games are getting boring vanilla paths. For how many more games will it continue? It's getting routine and boring with no interesting for incest fans in optional NTR games, like we always know the "predicted storyline", especially in terms of sexual progression with family.

Devs need to think of new bold storylines even for incest moms in non-ntr paths.
 
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I mean I get what you saying however I will say you comment feels random as fuck to me. As it has nothing to do with why I like the genre from what I was saying or why I disagreed with your original comment.

But I also disagree with your statement , I don't think a vanilla and NTR / NTS path need to go at the same speed at all unless the LI is a virgin but then NTR would make even less sense to me as it would need to be a slow burn corruption process or something similar. If you have lets say a party girl LI that is open minded I think it would make sense it doesn't take as long to do NTR content with others if the MC is into it and has her trust at least for a sharing path.

But also what you said also doesn't really make sense at least to me. Because most NTR / NTS games I've played the LI is already a wife or girlfriend. So there is no need to gather points for a BJ or whatever most of the time anyways as they have an established relationship usually. There are rare exceptions that but they aren't common at least from what ive played. So the speed of a NTR path usually comes to how into the fetish the dev makes the MC and how open the LI is for sharing. The better NTS games for me it comes down are for sure the slower paced ones as when they go to fast they rarely work out that well and usually are more or less guilty pleasures for fun / a game for the lewds.

I can't say much for actual NTR / cheating as I mostly only play sharing games when it comes to NTR content but id imagine the pacing of it should be about the same as a sharing path unless there is a narrative reason for the LI to cheat.
He is especially talking about incest vanilla/NTR paths, where in vanilla, you need to break the "taboo" first to sleep with family, where NTR villains don't need to follow all that and just fuck them and make them whores. This is unfair to non ntr fans. This "breaking taboo takes time" is getting used Overly in many incest optional NTR games and that resulting to the Non-NTR fans frustration. Believe me, "every Non-NTR fan is need not to be a vanilla fan". There are many non-ntr fans who are into same kinks and same just of progression that happens in NTR but want to see those happening in non ntr path as well.
 

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He is especially talking about incest vanilla/NTR paths, where in vanilla, you need to break the "taboo" first to sleep with family, where NTR villains don't need to follow all that and just fuck them and make them whores. This is unfair to non ntr fans. This "breaking taboo takes time" is getting used Overly in many incest optional NTR games and that resulting to the Non-NTR fans frustration. Believe me, "every Non-NTR fan is need not to be a vanilla fan". There are many non-ntr fans who are into same kinks and same just of progression that happens in NTR but want to see those happening in non ntr path as well.
An express lane to incest.... lol. Actually, I wouldn't mind that if it's done well and somewhat realistically. I think the build-up of breaking the taboo can be fun, but it's so overdone these days it's just exhausting now. I'd like to have a nice sister character who is as fucked in the head as MC and it starts off with some innocent flirting that progresses a little quicker than the standard incest game.
 

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An express lane to incest.... lol. Actually, I wouldn't mind that if it's done well and somewhat realistically. I think the build-up of breaking the taboo can be fun, but it's so overdone these days it's just exhausting now. I'd like to have a nice sister character who is as fucked in the head as MC and it starts off with some innocent flirting that progresses a little quicker than the standard incest game.
Yeah I too like a mom who is as fucked as MC is in the head and progress a little quicker than the standard incest game.
 

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I myself do prefer incest being on the slower side of things but I don't mind if things progress quick if I like the character alot. Tho I am a little bit of a hypocrite for saying this cause at the same time I get impatient after awhie once it becomes the main thing im looking forward too or I get really into the that part of the relationship depending on well it's done. Sometimes in incest games I can't wait for it might even ctrl skip through a new game to see if anything has happened.

The main thing that is important to me in incest games tho, is they act like their relationship is taboo still. I don't like it when incest games just act like it's no big deal or normal or anyone that finds out about it is super accepting of it like it's whatever. Sadly not alot of games do this that ive played tho i don't play alot of incest games.
 
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