VN Ren'Py My Bully Is My Lover [Ch.1 Ep.4 - CV] [NiiChan]

[Krytax123]

Maybe NiiChan would need to rewrite some parts or even cut a few scenes. One idea could be to give the MC’s father a connection to Sicae as well, not just Klara. That way, Klara being his guardian would make more sense, she’d know how important he is, and because she once loved Jovien, she chose to protect his son. But in the end, that would be up to NiiChan and his team’s creative direction.

Yeah i feel thats kindaaa necessary, at the moment it looks like its not the case:



Klara and Sky are Georgia's descendants while Kei is Jess's "boy" (employee or has it a deeper meaning?)



No Claire, it seems thats not the case anymore (i suspect this is a continuation error now).

The easiest solution would maybe be to make Jovian the younger brother of Seth? But it would need reworks too and would be a bit strange that sicae mc and mbml mc's dont know each other despite family bonds hmhmhm

 

[NiiChan]

No Claire, it seems thats not the case anymore (i suspect this is a continuation error now).

Like I said, some dialogues are gonna sound stupid. This is not the final version.

If you find more errors like this, please DM me through Discord for the love of God, or if that's too much work, compile them here in one post.

 

[Maiitos]

I mean, there's always Pix, right? Lol, I'm kidding!

 

[Krytax123]

Like I said, some dialogues are gonna sound stupid. This is not the final version.

If you find more errors like this, please DM me through Discord for the love of God, or if that's too much work, compile them here in one post.

Aye aye boss, im still not really sure what are possible errors and what not as im still slightly confused about the connection after sicae mc told kei about his roots and i kinda figured you had a army already

Not trying to shit on you either, i can see how this whole situation simply utterly sucks and is super unfortunate and solutions had to be found quickly. And yeah whatever you chose in the end, there will be people bitching about the solution.

My prefered solution would simply be that Klara is not lewdable anymore, they could stay kei's parents and sky could be taken in (the other way around as it is now) but you would probably get way too much hate for cutting klara and im aware that im in the minority with that lol

And uuhhhm, if jovian took him in this young (and together with klara) ... isnt that a adoption? Im probably confused with us laws about this stuff

Edit:

Finished prologue chapter 7 now,

i didnt saw any other outright wrong/stupid dialogues other than that until that point if we dont count the whole guardian/childhood friend stuff.

Im unfortunaley not happy with the solution at all, it takes all the emotions out of the mainstory for me (emotions in the girl's "stories" are still awesome) and makes it feel kinda wishy washy.



I felt super trolled when he said that lol. Everythink felt super awkward to me in this scene (but thats maybe less the case for new players, maybe). Your solution is "salvageable" imo but in that case Kei's legacy needs some lore which maybe could still come in the future? I dunno. Its kinda strange that Kei doesnt ask any questions about his roots in this scene too.

Sorry for sounding harsh, i love your avns, its just kinda disappointing for me (and not from the incest perspective) as i really liked the story/connections and the emotions coming along with it.

Edit2: Thinking about it, they could simply be aware of kei having the serum already and thats why they consider him important? Hmm otherwise they would probably intend to kill him if he has no connections but a serum

 

[Sossse]

it pains me so much to see what had to become of this game.. was one of the downloads i was always looking forward to most foundly.. but not like this

 

[Daermon420]

Aye aye boss, im still not really sure what are possible errors and what not as im still slightly confused about the connection after sicae mc told kei about his roots and i kinda figured you had a army already

Not trying to shit on you either, i can see how this whole situation simply utterly sucks and is super unfortunate and solutions had to be found quickly. And yeah whatever you chose in the end, there will be people bitching about the solution.

My prefered solution would simply be that Klara is not lewdable anymore, they could stay kei's parents and sky could be taken in (the other way around as it is now) but you would probably get way too much hate for cutting klara and im aware that im in the minority with that lol

And uuhhhm, if jovian took him in this young (and together with klara) ... isnt that a adoption? Im probably confused with us laws about this stuff

Edit:

Finished prologue chapter 7 now,

i didnt saw any other outright wrong/stupid dialogues other than that until that point if we dont count the whole guardian/childhood friend stuff.

Im unfortunaley not happy with the solution at all, it takes all the emotions out of the mainstory for me (emotions in the girl's "stories" are still awesome) and makes it feel kinda wishy washy.

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I felt super trolled when he said that lol. Everythink felt super awkward to me in this scene (but thats maybe less the case for new players, maybe). Your solution is "salvageable" imo but in that case Kei's legacy needs some lore which maybe could still come in the future? I dunno. Its kinda strange that Kei doesnt ask any questions about his roots in this scene too.

Sorry for sounding harsh, i love your avns, its just kinda disappointing for me (and not from the incest perspective) as i really liked the story/connections and the emotions coming along with it.

Edit2: Thinking about it, they could simply be aware of kei having the serum already and thats why they consider him important?

Could have the MCs mother be from another important Sicae family that died when MC was young. One who was close friends with Klara, so Klara took him in as a foster child after Jovian disappeared. That way you could keep Klara and Skyes ties to Georgia, Jess interest in him would still make sense, and so would the MC of Sicaes appearance.

The reverse could also work, with the MC as a descendant of Georgia. Klara and Skye from another Sicae family. Or not related to Sicae at all, but they know Jess somehow and Jess asked Klara to foster the MC as a favor to her.

 

[Krytax123]

Could have the MCs mother be from another important Sicae family that died when MC was young. One who was close friends with Klara, so Klara took him in as a foster child after Jovian disappeared. That way you could keep Klara and Skyes ties to Georgia, Jess interest in him would still make sense, and so would the MC of Sicaes appearance.

Its kinda similar to that now just that Jovian was the one who found the MC first and took him in (probably together with klara already tho?)

Spoiler: MC's background so far

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Whatever that means exactly.

Im done bitching about this now tho, i said my 2 cents, in the end im always happy for a good time with best girl moon no matter whos related to whom

 

[VinnneV]

When the next update drops, someone’s gonna need to break down what’s changed. People were already confused with the "role tags", now with the character relationships shifting, it’s gonna be even messier. Also, what happens to old saves?

 

[NiiChan]

Aye aye boss, im still not really sure what are possible errors and what not as im still slightly confused about the connection after sicae mc told kei about his roots and i kinda figured you had a army already

Not trying to shit on you either, i can see how this whole situation simply utterly sucks and is super unfortunate and solutions had to be found quickly. And yeah whatever you chose in the end, there will be people bitching about the solution.

My prefered solution would simply be that Klara is not lewdable anymore, they could stay kei's parents and sky could be taken in (the other way around as it is now) but you would probably get way too much hate for cutting klara and im aware that im in the minority with that lol

And uuhhhm, if jovian took him in this young (and together with klara) ... isnt that a adoption? Im probably confused with us laws about this stuff

Edit:

Finished prologue chapter 7 now,

i didnt saw any other outright wrong/stupid dialogues other than that until that point if we dont count the whole guardian/childhood friend stuff.

Im unfortunaley not happy with the solution at all, it takes all the emotions out of the mainstory for me (emotions in the girl's "stories" are still awesome) and makes it feel kinda wishy washy.

View attachment 5087626

I felt super trolled when he said that lol. Everythink felt super awkward to me in this scene (but thats maybe less the case for new players, maybe). Your solution is "salvageable" imo but in that case Kei's legacy needs some lore which maybe could still come in the future? I dunno. Its kinda strange that Kei doesnt ask any questions about his roots in this scene too.

Sorry for sounding harsh, i love your avns, its just kinda disappointing for me (and not from the incest perspective) as i really liked the story/connections and the emotions coming along with it.

Edit2: Thinking about it, they could simply be aware of kei having the serum already and thats why they consider him important? Hmm otherwise they would probably intend to kill him if he has no connections but a serum

Okay, let me just off myself.

 

[Dodozeira]

It might sound like a silly question, but are there other sites that allow certain types of content? Is it just Patreon, Steam, and Itch.io? Maybe it's better to invest in a personal site? Relying on these platforms is kind of frustrating

 

[VinnneV]

It might sound like a silly question, but are there other sites that allow certain types of content? Is it just Patreon, Steam, and Itch.io? Maybe it's better to invest in a personal site? Relying on these platforms is kind of frustrating

You have to thank God that NiiChan didn't give up, after these laws I've seen about 3 of them give up...

This will limit the next ones who tried to create games

 

[snideremark]

It might sound like a silly question, but are there other sites that allow certain types of content? Is it just Patreon, Steam, and Itch.io? Maybe it's better to invest in a personal site? Relying on these platforms is kind of frustrating

Well, if you are happy with like 1/200 of the reach you could self publish, but how do people pay you? You will still have to use the same payment processors and those will blacklist you after they check what is being paid for.

 

[VinnneV]

Unless people find a platform as good as these, and with a payment method other than Visa or Mastercard, then yes, if not... We just have to get it right, and someone in the future will do it an incest patch :v

 

[NiiChan]

You have to thank God that NiiChan didn't give up, after these laws I've seen about 3 of them give up...

This will limit the next ones who tried to create games

I'm at this point where I'm thinking about it, but I can't. I'm honestly really tired, but if I drop this all off, I have nothing else. Sustaining what's left of my family is all that keeps me going rn.

 

[VinnneV]

Well, if you are happy with like 1/200 of the reach you could self publish, but how do people pay you? You will still have to use the same payment processors and those will blacklist you after they check what is being paid for.

Man, how did people let banks dictate where you should or shouldn't use your money? What a fucking dystopia

 

[VinnneV]

I'm at this point where I'm thinking anout it, but I can't. I'm honestly really tired, but if I drop this all off, I have nothing else. Sustaining what's left of my family is all that keeps me going rn.

I'm really sorry NiiChan, you are a warrior

 

[snideremark]

I'm at this point where I'm thinking anout it, but I can't. I'm honestly really tired, but if I drop this all off, I have nothing else. Sustaining what's left of my family is all that keeps me going rn.

Just a suggestion, but maybe it would be good (also for mental) to focus on Sicae again and wait until it is really known how this whole thing is unfolding in a few months

 

[VinnneV]

We don’t want you to stop creating content, but we believe that once things settle down, you’ll still be able to release your game exactly as you envisioned. Pause, reflect... Take the time you need to decide what you truly want

Regardless of your choice, I’m confident you have enough support, no matter which platform you choose to share your work on. My Bully and Sicae are incredibly successful and impactful visual novels

 

[Ozymandias037]

Can we maybe give the man a break? Dude's had to completely reconceptualize the entire story -- a work he has poured his heart and soul into for multiple years -- in a matter of days. He said right at the outset that this was a quick and dirty edit to get the game compliant with stupid, terrible censorship rules so that he doesn't lose his livelihood. Let the man fucking cook a minute, ffs.

NiiChan is a solid writer and this game is his baby. It's not going to be what he wanted but he's doing the best he can under a set of really shitty circumstances. Cut him a little slack, huh?

 

[BlueArrow]

man this situation sucks

dont feel like downloading the censored version so could a kind soul tell me what the relationship/story changes are?
thanks