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Trope95

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Strange you mention a harem. I have noticed there is no harem tag.
It's the first on the planned tag list. Not yet included as it's not already in the game.
I think a game with, at least, 29 girls without the harem option for the player can be a bad idea. I don't want the players with pitchforks and torches at my home door ;)
 

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Is the main language of this vn english or translated
My primary languages are Spanish and Catalan, so I'm not a native English speaker.
Some of the content has been proofread by a native speaker from the forum, but life has hit him hard the last weeks and not all the content has been proofread yet. I hope he can recover from the last weeks and send me a proofread version when he is able to do it.
 
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Do we get to make him watch as we take his wife?
I have plans for him, but not they are not as detailed yet.
I would, as a player, rephrase your question like "Do we get to make him watch as we take his wife AND his bimbo mistress at the same time?". But I won't disclose any of the plans for him, as they aren't set in stone yet
 
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It's the first on the planned tag list. Not yet included as it's not already in the game.
I think a game with, at least, 29 girls without the harem option for the player can be a bad idea. I don't want the players with pitchforks and torches at my home door ;)
This would be me in the picture yelling to the horde gatherer, of that assault on ur house Mate. If we had 29 ladies to breed and have loyal and devoted to us fully but could only have 1. a9EBNK0e_700w_0.jpg
 

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I'm in the beginning of the game and about the renders, the lighting is fine but the renders are quite noisy and blurry, do you have access to a high end video card and the nvidia denoiser. and it seems that you have also compressed a lot the rendered images.
If the renders were high quality without noise and the images less compressed it would be great !
On my 32 inch 4k monitor, all those problems are really visible and the game looks quite dull.
 

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It's the first on the planned tag list. Not yet included as it's not already in the game.
I think a game with, at least, 29 girls without the harem option for the player can be a bad idea. I don't want the players with pitchforks and torches at my home door ;)
Wait.. 29 girls?? I like variety... but that's ambitious af. That's a lot for a first game. Hell... I doubt many experienced devs can pull that off. Will there be enough screen time to make each character fleshed out & memorable?
 
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I'm in the beginning of the game and about the renders, the lighting is fine but the renders are quite noisy and blurry, do you have access to a high end video card and the nvidia denoiser. and it seems that you have also compressed a lot the rendered images.
If the renders were high quality without noise and the images less compressed it would be great !
On my 32 inch 4k monitor, all those problems are really visible and the game looks quite dull.
Sorry to hear that. My video card is an NVIDIA RTX3070, so the noise was a combination of my stupidness with the lightning and an 80% compression to webp (as I read in a ren'py forum). I'm working with a 24" FullHD screen, so you will see problems that I haven't (not an excuse on my part).
I'm still learning some Daz tricks, and I think you will see some improvements as the game advances. I know there are some scenes that look noisy and I plan on re-render/re-compress them at some time.

For v.0.3 the compression, convergence, and lightning will be better so the images won't be as blurry.
 
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Trope95

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Wait.. 29 girls?? I like variety... but that's ambitious af. That's a lot for a first game. Hell... I doubt many experienced devs can pull that off. Will there be enough screen time to make each character fleshed out & memorable?
Some of those 29 girls will be one-night stands, and some of them won't even be LIs. The 29 girl number came from a list I made in the OP about female names that will be used through the game so you can avoid confusion if you rename, for example, Norah as Sophie and there is a scene with Norah (now Sophie) and a girl hard-named Sophie.

The game will advance at a slow pace for the first updates, a game day per update, so I can accomplish several things:
* Flesh the 'core' girls so they feel unique.
* Develop their personalities and their relationship with MC in a natural way. In fact, they are the most difficult girls to get into a relationship with, as they are "family" (the quotes can be removed if you patch the game).
* Introduce the other core girls at a slow pace, so they all have some screen time and some reasons to want to be with MC before the actual relationship begin.

In the current version, you've already known 11 girls. In order of appearance:
Martha, Saira, Emma, Erika, Norah, Daphne, Scarlett, Eileen, Samantha, Simone, and Alexia. The last three only have had a minute of screen time, but more to come.
As you will see in v.0.3, not all the girls will appear in every update, but the ones that appear will have major development in most cases.
 

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Sorry to hear that. My video card is an NVIDIA RTX3070, so the noise was a combination of my stupidness with the lightning and an 80% compression to webp (as I read in a ren'py forum). I'm working with a 24" FullHD screen, so you will see problems that I haven't (not an excuse on my part).
I'm still learning some Daz tricks, and I think you will see some improvements as the game advances. I know there are some scenes that look noisy and I plan on re-render/re-compress them at some time.

For v.0.3 the compression, convergence, and lightning will be better so the images won't be as blurry.
If you have a 3070 you should get very crisp high quality renders, i know it's not easy to achieve that if you are not used to this stuff. I'm not a DAZ specialist but i have made a lot of renders in other softwares.
You certainly have noticed that when lighting is low the renders are very noisy and the gradient between black and white is really bad. So in the black area everything is pitch black and you loose every details same in the white areas. It's not so easy to achieve a good render with low light condition.
So if you don't use a high contrast with a short dynamic range and then you don't denoise your render you loose a lot of quality and then if you add a poor image compression then you get a dull result.
You game actually is quite small in file size, a similar game with better image compression would be twice or three time that size.
I know many people complain about huge file size, but if it's for a phone or a tablet it's ok, but if you look at the same image on a big monitor in 4k then all the defects get really visible.
 
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Since your main language is Spanish:
Pinta bien, las chicas son adorables e interesantes, corriendo en una tv 4k de 100 pulgadas si se ve la baja calidad pero no es tan malo, poco a poco mejoraras. La historia se ve interesante pero ojala no tarde tanto el MC en salir de su fase "¿por que me pasan cosas tan buenas?" como en otras novelas que termina cansando al lector. Espero que no sea abandonada la novela y buena suerte.
PS: perdona la ortografia y falta de acentos pero como aprendi de oido pues no soy tan bueno.
 

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Some of those 29 girls will be one-night stands, and some of them won't even be LIs. The 29 girl number came from a list I made in the OP about female names that will be used through the game so you can avoid confusion if you rename, for example, Norah as Sophie and there is a scene with Norah (now Sophie) and a girl hard-named Sophie.

The game will advance at a slow pace for the first updates, a game day per update, so I can accomplish several things:
* Flesh the 'core' girls so they feel unique.
* Develop their personalities and their relationship with MC in a natural way. In fact, they are the most difficult girls to get into a relationship with, as they are "family" (the quotes can be removed if you patch the game).
* Introduce the other core girls at a slow pace, so they all have some screen time and some reasons to want to be with MC before the actual relationship begin.

In the current version, you've already known 11 girls. In order of appearance:
Martha, Saira, Emma, Erika, Norah, Daphne, Scarlett, Eileen, Samantha, Simone, and Alexia. The last three only have had a minute of screen time, but more to come.
As you will see in v.0.3, not all the girls will appear in every update, but the ones that appear will have major development in most cases.
It may seem a good idea to have a lot of girls, but from my experience, the best games are those which have just a few girls but with a well developed personality.
In a game like BAD you have 5 main girls and maybe around 10 others with whom you can have a relationship. In many other games, you get a lot of girls but very quickly you loose any interest for them because none are developed properly.
Some dev think it's a good idea to throw a lot of girls to keep the player's attention, but in fact it's the opposite. You play those game just for the quick fuck and the next day you already have forgotten about it.
Some other devs do the opposite they try to keep your attention on a few girls with a very slow burn and they give you some meat to fuck so you don't complain to much about blueballing.

Both are annoying because you either feel bored or you feel frustrated.
 
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Some of those 29 girls will be one-night stands, and some of them won't even be LIs. The 29 girl number came from a list I made in the OP about female names that will be used through the game so you can avoid confusion if you rename, for example, Norah as Sophie and there is a scene with Norah (now Sophie) and a girl hard-named Sophie.

The game will advance at a slow pace for the first updates, a game day per update, so I can accomplish several things:
* Flesh the 'core' girls so they feel unique.
* Develop their personalities and their relationship with MC in a natural way. In fact, they are the most difficult girls to get into a relationship with, as they are "family" (the quotes can be removed if you patch the game).
* Introduce the other core girls at a slow pace, so they all have some screen time and some reasons to want to be with MC before the actual relationship begin.

In the current version, you've already known 11 girls. In order of appearance:
Martha, Saira, Emma, Erika, Norah, Daphne, Scarlett, Eileen, Samantha, Simone, and Alexia. The last three only have had a minute of screen time, but more to come.
As you will see in v.0.3, not all the girls will appear in every update, but the ones that appear will have major development in most cases.
how many would you consider main girls?
 

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If you have a 3070 you should get very crisp high quality renders, i know it's not easy to achieve that if you are not used to this stuff. I'm not a DAZ specialist but i have made a lot of renders in other softwares.
You certainly have noticed that when lighting is low the renders are very noisy and the gradient between black and white is really bad. So in the black area everything is pitch black and you loose every details same in the white areas. It's not so easy to achieve a good render with low light condition.
So if you don't use a high contrast with a short dynamic range and then you don't denoise your render you loose a lot of quality and then if you add a poor image compression then you get a dull result.
You game actually is quite small in file size, a similar game with better image compression would be twice or three time that size.
I know many people complain about huge file size, but if it's for a phone or a tablet it's ok, but if you look at the same image on a big monitor in 4k then all the defects get really visible.
I've learned some of those lessons the hard way, and I'm sure you will see a lot of evolution in the next updates. I plan on re-rendering/re-compressing/re-lightning the images at some time, as I'm learning a lot in the process. This is a render I've just done for v.0.4 and as I learn more tricks (just beginning to use ghost lights, for example) the images are better
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How do you see it on your screen? On mine, it's crisp and without noise.
Sorry if I am bothering you with these questions.
 

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I am going to give my opinion on the number of women. I think that the main LIs should be set at around 4 but not more than 6. This enables there to be variety, yet they still show up in most of the updates. The secondary LIs should be set at around 6 or so. They can appear and not appear and not effect the story to much. The rest can be one time things or used to break things up so there is variety in the story.

This is just my opinion.
 

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how many would you consider main girls?
8 'core' girls and +10 'harem' girls
For me a core girl is one who, in some circumstances, can ask MC for exclusivity and monogamy. It is up to MC to choose between several options (exclusivity, convince her to be part of the harem, or break up with her).
A haren girl is one who can accept to share MC with other girls without major problems. She shares, MC will never share a girl with another man.
 
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TropecitaGames might want to add a slow burn tag since he is still introducing the characters.
Yeah with most incest hookups it's always a balancing act between being realistic and blueballing fans, though at least MC got to chow down on Eileen's ginger cookie (at least that's something, though I have yet to see a ginger with kitty lips that dark). It took ~3 years for my sis to act on her urges, but most AVN fans don't want to wait for 3 years worth of updates.
 
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Since your main language is Spanish:
Pinta bien, las chicas son adorables e interesantes, corriendo en una tv 4k de 100 pulgadas si se ve la baja calidad pero no es tan malo, poco a poco mejoraras. La historia se ve interesante pero ojala no tarde tanto el MC en salir de su fase "¿por que me pasan cosas tan buenas?" como en otras novelas que termina cansando al lector. Espero que no sea abandonada la novela y buena suerte.
PS: perdona la ortografia y falta de acentos pero como aprendi de oido pues no soy tan bueno.
Allow me to answer in English for the benefit of other forum members.
Your Spanish is very good, so don't worry. We aren't picky with people who aren't native, not even with people who are ;) . An Italian friend went to the butcher's asking for girl-bull (toro muchacha) because he couldn't remember the word for beef (ternera), and the butcher was happy for the effort.
I didn't even know someone played porn games on 100" screens! Wow!
In v.0.3 he will begin to take some initiative, but don't expect the house to be a fuck fest at the end of the first week
 
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