xapican

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I believe you might have meant 90% of spanish people lol cause even in my background (puerto rican) we tend to stay either close to family or with family since we kinda are more family based type of people. maybe its just my way of thinking since i lived in Barcelona for 9months when i was a kid.
Not only in Spain, over here it is also very comon to live till high age with the parents, even sometimes young couples start living for a few years with Parents of either ones, same goes for Argentina, (no wonder we had the mayority of imigrants from Spain (Galiza, and Italy,) aswell Paraguay (that is where i have founded knowlege about)
 

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Not only in Spain, over here it is also very comon to live till high age with the parents, even sometimes young couples start living for a few years with Parents of either ones, same goes for Argentina, (no wonder we had the mayority of imigrants from Spain (Galiza, and Italy,) aswell Paraguay (that is where i have founded knowlege about)
Thats why i stated spanish people we are just more family based lol
 
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Hell 99% of those roommater/landlady games you don't even pay rent so they can't even make their "fake story" even slightly realistic
That's because they don't want to try.

The whole point of the 'roommate/landlady' swap is to give Patreon a middle finger. It's very much an intentional absurdity.

It's the dev saying "yes, Patreon, this is incest, but because of your dumb, asinine rule about the sanctity of pixels, and your slavish adherence to it, you can't do anything about it. I am meeting the literal letter of your rule while everyone knows full well there's a patch that swaps the words to what they're supposed to be. 'Some other person' happened to have uploaded it to LewdPatcher, and I can't be held responsible for what these rascals do."

I mean, I do appreciate Trop's method as well, because it gives people who don't like incest a story as well, but it's not like people are doing the roommate/landlady thing to be lazy. They're doing it because Patreon's rule is fucking idiotic and it doesn't deserve any more thought than that.
 

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That's because they don't want to try.

The whole point of the 'roommate/landlady' swap is to give Patreon a middle finger. It's very much an intentional absurdity.
and a middle finger to players who don't care for the incest plot, also to the players that aren't even aware of a patch floating around, theres tons of other places to host your game that isn't Patreon that doesn't really care like SubscriberStar for example, it is lazy writing the "Patreon excuse" is simple that.. an excuse, If the content you're making isn't approved by the platform you're using the wrong platform, You don't go on steam to find porn videos do you? No, because its the wrong platform.

It's not even a middle finger to Patreon they don't actually care because they still get money from you anyways so they still get the last laugh the only way to give Patreon the "middle finger" is to take your business elsewhere losing profits is what they only care about. Do you really thing they actually care what content someone hosts? Hell no they only do if someone reports (which can cause a legal issue) or their main backer (mastercard) threatens to pull out (which they did) Which is why you can find some very rapey incest game on their still without needing a patch because it brings in the $$$
 

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and a middle finger to players who don't care for the incest plot
The games I'm thinking of do not have any intent of a non-incest version. If you don't like incest, don't play incest-based games, whether they're pretending not to be for Patreon's benefit or not. The 'non-incest' versions of those games are literally only present for Patreon.

, also to the players that aren't even aware of a patch floating around,
That's again due to Patreon, because the dev can't mention the patch there, either. Thus the patches are mentioned on developer Discords and sites like this one you're reading right now, which (wonder of wonders) links the incest patch in the OP. Also, once people are familiar with LewdPatcher from one game, they know to look there for other games.

theres tons of other places to host your game that isn't Patreon that doesn't really care like SubscriberStar for example,
Patreon dwarfs those in terms of revenue. Unless you have a pre-established fanbase (usually from Patreon in the first place), you aren't making as much money on those platforms as you would on Patreon.

it is lazy writing the "Patreon excuse" is simple that.. an excuse, If the content you're making isn't approved by the platform you're using the wrong platform, You don't go on steam to find porn videos do you? No, because its the wrong platform.
And as we all know, everyone always follows the spirit of every rule. I really don't know why you're defending Patreon here other than that you, personally, dislike incest storylines.

I gave a reason for why a lot of those games are written that way. You consider it lazy writing, and an excuse. That's fine, but to make a blanket statement like that guarantees you are wrong at least some of the time.

Do you really thing they actually care what content someone hosts?
Yes, or they wouldn't have that rule. And I've seen developers very specifically state that they were not reported, Patreon explicitly told them they had to change the game or have their account terminated. So your assumptions are simply that... assumptions.
 

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So your assumptions are simply that... assumptions.
Lol so you give me a full post of "your assumptions" then say this?

assumptions you made:

1st, i don't like patreon hence why my mods are on Subscriberstar instead so no not defending them at all just saying the facts
2, I have no problem with incest kinda why i have the patch version for this game and many others but sure Lol


" but to make a blanket statement like that guarantees you are wrong at least some of the time. "

which also applies to you with your " do not have any intent of a non-incest version. " in fact thats another assumption on your part unless you are in contact with every single dev and had a one on one convo with them (which i doubt but i could be wrong) like i was going on good faith when you stated that and didn't literally mean them all but hey if you're not going to have good faith and clearly know i don't mean 100% of them also, then i'mma gonna call you out on it


and for your last point as i said in my last post Mastercard/Visa crackdown on patreon and threaten to pull their payment option from them (and without the credit card companies your point about devs using patreon because more money would no longer be true without creditcard payment option patreon would be just like BuymeCoffee) if they didn't start censoring and banning content creators of certain genres (including but not limited to incest) so not an assumption on my part thats a fact and that why certain people got messagages

So my point coming back again, Unless it hurts patreons profits or they can get in a load of legal issues they don't actually care, to think a company cares about anything other then profits is a bit naive on your part. (individuals at the company might, but the company as whole doesn't)



Either or we clearly won't agree on this matter, and thats ok you're entitled to your opinion just like everyone else

But i think we both can atleast agree on the fact that TropecitaGames did a great job in making both routes "believable" and enjoyable regardless if you like incest or not.
 

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But i think we both can atleast agree on the fact that TropecitaGames did a great job in making both routes "believable" and enjoyable regardless if you like incest or not.
And I specifically said that I appreciated how Trop did it in my post.

I mostly just got annoyed at you kinda shitting on devs who do the word-swap, which I felt was bad form. But you're right, we're not going to agree here.
 

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Bruh why would you ever want to dominate such an adorable girl as Maddie,Like wtf romance or nothing dude...pft
She deserves it for trying to blackmail the MC. :KEK:

Actually, i accepted her blackmail in my playthrough but shh, don't tell anyone.
 
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Outrageous and unacceptable
I'll compensate you, don't worry, but I'll keep it secret how I will do it ;)
She deserves it for trying to blackmail the MC. :KEK:

Actually, i accepted her blackmail in my playthrough but shh, don't tell anyone.
You know she only blackmails the MC because your MC is a pervert who spied on his mom, right? :p
If you decided to not peep at Martha, only the Romance route is available because there's no blackmail... *Whistles away* :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'll compensate you, don't worry, but I'll keep it secret how I will do it ;)

You know she only blackmails the MC because your MC is a pervert who spied on his mom, right? :p
If you decided to not peep at Martha, only the Romance route is available because there's no blackmail... *Whistles away* :ROFLMAO:
Honestly, her attempt to blackmail the mc is so adorable felt slightly guilty for choosing the maledom option :KEK: hopefully that won't prevent her from joining the harem.Does JONAS the prick have a daughter or wife that we can befriend :BootyTime: we can always use more Eileen scenes she is a really good character usually the ex-girlfriend/wife tends to be obnoxious.

if its no too much trouble maybe you can add a codex for the characters currently the game does not need it but with the new characters maybe we forget some piece of info and thanks for making the game :love:
 
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Honestly, her attempt to blackmail the mc is so adorable felt slightly guilty for choosing the maledom option :KEK: hopefully that won't prevent her from joining the harem.Does JONAS the prick have a daughter or wife that we can befriend :BootyTime: we can always use more Eileen scenes she is a really good character usually the ex-girlfriend/wife tends to be obnoxious.

if its no too much trouble maybe you can add a codex for the characters currently the game does not need it but with the new characters maybe we forget some piece of info and thanks for making the game :love:
The two Dom routes will have a choice down the road that will allow/prevent her to/from join(ing) the harem.
Jonas is married, but her wife won't appear in the game
Eileen is an atypical character, as she and the MC only broke up due to distance cooling the relationship. There isn't any bad blood between them, so even if your MC rejects her, they will remain friends. She's also a clever woman who knows that her time of exclusivity is in the past, so she's the harem initiator/ultimate wing(wo)man.
About the codex, I'm working with RiamMar on a lot of levels: basically, he's helping me with code issues, and he's making a wonderful mod that covers what I'm unable to do and I give him what he needs for it. In a future version of his mod, there will be a codex (soon) and a gallery (less soon). The codex will feature exclusive images not available in-game (but accessible via folder browsing for those who don't want to install the mod) that will unlock as we progress with the different girls.
 

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Uruguayans always exagerating the negative things and always complaining ;) :LOL:

Sorry but this one doesn`t exist in english it is a Murga that is like a theatre musical with sarcastical and satirical elements the only way to raise the voice during the Military Dictature and has become tradition, origiting from the Spanish form of Burlesque "Zarzuela" kind of Street theatre played in Carnival
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The family situation is weird per se.
Summarizing the plot of the incest-free version:
MC's mother and uncles die when he is 5 years old.
His father starts dating Martha a few months later and Martha moves in with them a year later (the MC is 6 or 7 now. Let's say 6 to make it easier).
Martha arrives with a 3 year old girl (Emma). You can't tell "this is your new sister" to a 6 years old kid without him being a little surprised. With Erika and Daphne, it doesn't happen since they have lived at Mike and Norah's house since they were born.
When Emma, Erika, and Daphne start going to school, to keep the clone issue from coming up, Martha and Norah change their last name to Marks. By then the MC is 8 or 9 years old and needs an explanation. "Dad, why did Martha change her last name if she didn't marry you? And Auntie?"
Add to that Edmund resenting the whole clone thing and the wills of the dead leaving him with nothing, and there you have how the MC found out. Asshole Dad's ranting.
 
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