L0key2022

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that would be a question for a different thread as that is off topic for this game
oh sorry bout that kind of relevant though cause im a new developer developing a fan fiction visual novel with characters Based off of multiple already existing Visual novels kind of like a fan fiction crossover currrently in the research stage looking to hear out everyone favorite characters from visual novels to decide which charachter i might use
 
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hysepReC

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again, its not ntr its TMI. people also dont want to read-see that
It's not even TMI. She doesn't start talking about all the sex she had while the MC was away, she just says that none of the other guys she dated compared to the MC. It was supposed to be an ego boost for him! Eileen is one of the best girls in the game if you give her a chance, not only does she get Alexia comfortable with the idea of sharing the MC, she also manages to convince her to have a threesome.
 

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is it still NTR if theirs multiple protagonists asking as a new game developer want to get the tags right
Although Demonius is right, I won't see your question on the other thread, so I will give you my point of view.
If an LI is an LI for both protagonists (let's imagine there are two) and you fuck her with both, you are auto-cuckolding yourself. If one of the protagonists is the official boyfriend of the LI, he will receive NTR from the other protagonist. But it's a complicated question.
 
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It's not even TMI. She doesn't start talking about all the sex she had while the MC was away, she just says that none of the other guys she dated compared to the MC. It was supposed to be an ego boost for him! Eileen is one of the best girls in the game if you give her a chance, not only does she get Alexia comfortable with the idea of sharing the MC, she also manages to convince her to have a threesome.
hard pass
 
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so your part of Anti-NTR crowd that thinks if a LI has had sex before the MC could pop their cherry, they are a slut and not worth your time and cucked your MC in the process, would've been good to know that before we tried explaining things to you. we wouldn't have wasted our time
i dont like other npcs convincing lis to do stuff
 

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so your part of Anti-NTR crowd that thinks if a LI has had sex before the MC could pop their cherry, they are a slut and not worth your time and cucked your MC in the process, would've been good to know that before we tried explaining things to you. we wouldn't have wasted our time
Oh, didn't you hear what he said? He just doesn't want the game to acknowledge anything that might imply that these are real women, because it totally ruins the experience for him if he knows they ever did anything that might mean he's getting an in-direct "kiss" ...

Oh, and I've added "Insists over and over that any hint of potential LI being with someone else ever instead of just saying 'not for me' and bowing out" to my auto-punt list.
 

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rodney dangerfield, Eileen (ex girlfriend, they broke up before the MC got to college and get in a loose relship with Saira) but they remain "friends" since there was no reason to fight or to have a grudge toward each other, they met again and there you can decide if you want to fuck her casually or not (make her membeer of harem)
So the situation was in comon consent to go separate ways, and to do what they please, you can talk about it with her or not but you don't see the sex scene with other guy's !!! and I fail blatantly to understand why some weirdos started to argue about NTR (not by site definitions, and that is what we should talk about being in this forum) If they want to see it that way is up to them.
So has this game NTR No! is there a girl which in an casual chat mentions she din't find someone like the MC, and decided to stay single as she couldnt find it ? Yes ! is she willig to have casual sex with the MC and tolerate other girls and don't do other guys ? yes !
 

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true; but if you start counting people that arent together as NTR, then EVERY game is NTR because there are people NOT with the MC, getting laid.
While I don't want to defend the crazy guy here (I love Eileen and think his stance on her is ridiculous), this is a bit of a strawman. No one's said that people who are not LIs getting laid is a problem (except the crazy guy, and I don't care about his opinion).

What people don't want is LIs (or future/potential LIs) who do talk explicitly and in detail about past sexual activity. I forget which game, but there was one where an LI went into graphic sexual detail about past relationships while talking to the MC, which was, shall we say, not appreciated by most players.

For example, my anti-NTR opinions are:
  • I don't want to see an LI or future/potential LI talking about how big her past lovers' cocks were (or anything similar)
  • I don't want to see an LI or future/potential LI talking about how much she likes being fucked by other guys (or anything similar)
  • I don't have any interest in seeing scenes of people having sex unless everyone involved is either the MC or an LI/future LI (not potential; they must be a definite LI or an optional LI) of the MC (there are some anti-NTR fans who don't like it when multiple LIs have sex without the MC; I am not one of them, but they definitely do exist as a significant but not universal portion of pro-harem/anti-NTR people)
Guys other than the MC could be having sex 24 hours a day, but I (and most anti-NTR people) wouldn't care as long as we don't have to see it or be told about it, especially by an LI or future/potential LI. This is why it's so important to clearly delineate between future/potential LIs and women who will never have any interest in the MC.

To expand on that last part: one reason devs generally make non-LI women unattractive is because if they make an attractive woman, someone will ask them to make the woman an LI if she isn't. That can lead to negative situations. For instance, there is a game where one of the first characters the MC interacts with is a pretty woman who is in a relationship already with a guy who the MC is friendly with... But she also immediately flirts with the MC and hints that she's attracted to him. One of the next scenes (and the first lewd scene in the game) is a voyeurism scene where the MC watches the girl and her boyfriend fucking in an alley. The dev expected this to be appreciated 'because it's a sex scene and she's pretty', but there was a lot of pushback that resulted in the dev adding a skip option for that scene, and it's turned a lot of people off of the game anyway, because teasing an LI and then having another guy immediately fuck her as the first lewd scene is really shitty to do for non-NTR games.

is it still NTR if theirs multiple protagonists asking as a new game developer want to get the tags right
Anti-NTR people generally hate multiple protagonist games categorically, almost as much as they hate NTR games. So it's not usually particularly relevant. But the answer is "if more than one protagonist is interested in an LI (and neither the LI nor the game make it clear that the LI is 100% off-limits to all but one of those protagonists), then it may not fit the definition, but anti-NTR people will hate it just as much as if it was straight-up full-on cheating/cucking NTR."
 
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