VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.23.1 S3 Ch.3] [Tropecita Games]

[Crazia]

Let me take a deep breath, before I answer this.

:: Breathe ::

Where did you read HIVE MIND, I know of what you talk about, and NO I am not typifying. I am however reacting to the portrait of a character in a story, that was written by someone that doesn't have the condition (at least it doesn't look like it) but even so, was able to correctly describe an ADHD person, with enough accuracy that I was able to recognize it.

Not only do I live with ADHD for 60 years, I'm married to one, have 4 kids diagnosed, am the founder of a National association for the Condition, am a founder, admin, and very active member on support groups. Also, I've talked with MANY hundreds of other carriers, not only about their condition but also of how their lives are affected.

About the inability, go fuck yourself. That type of arrogance is the main reason support groups are needed. Don't even start telling me how to live with a condition that affects your executive center. I was raised before any awareness of the condition was common place. In a very backwards place, the methods used to "control" me were ONLY violence. I was spanked 4 times a day, and slapped 20 times, just so I could keep attention. So, go fuck yourself and your presumptions.

:: breathe out ::

Peace

Sounds like you have bigger issues. People are not metadata.

 

[HornyyPussy]

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Et tu , Satou?

 

[Satou Pendragon]

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Et tu , Satou?

You know I had to

 

[Bad Wolf]

I hate you both........

 

[acowasto]

Let me take a deep breath, before I answer this.

:: Breathe ::

Where did you read HIVE MIND, I know of what you talk about, and NO I am not typifying. I am however reacting to the portrait of a character in a story, that was written by someone that doesn't have the condition (at least it doesn't look like it) but even so, was able to correctly describe an ADHD person, with enough accuracy that I was able to recognize it.

Not only do I live with ADHD for 60 years, I'm married to one, have 4 kids diagnosed, am the founder of a National association for the Condition, am a founder, admin, and very active member on support groups. Also, I've talked with MANY hundreds of other carriers, not only about their condition but also of how their lives are affected.

About the inability, go fuck yourself. That type of arrogance is the main reason support groups are needed. Don't even start telling me how to live with a condition that affects your executive center. I was raised before any awareness of the condition was common place. In a very backwards place, the methods used to "control" me were ONLY violence. I was spanked 4 times a day, and slapped 20 times, just so I could keep attention. So, go fuck yourself and your presumptions.

:: breathe out ::

Peace

Those presumtions, or I would rather say prejudices, didn't manifest themselves out of thin air though.
I've been on the other side of the river where people were using thier disorders, or having forged papers stating such things, to have a get out of jail free card to use when caught red-handed when on thier crime-spree. Until they did something really serious, they were basically safe, as law enforcement prefered to just avoid having to torment themselves while dealing with them, not to mention being branded by the pubic for abusing thier power over such people.

My friend, which was a girl, not to mistake her for a girlfriend, was working in a shop in the city close to mine, where a youngster with diagnosed ADHD used to come there, among many other shops. You would think he was quite polite and nice person who wouldn't cause too much trouble, just a bit lost. Well, if you could just look past his stealing spree, then I would say yes. He even used to laugh you in the face when caught red-handed, because his petty theft wasn't really "grave enough" for police to tormet themselves with his disorder, so all what they did was just taking and returning what he took and escorting him out of the shop. Well, that was going on for about few years until one of the shopowners had enough of him and kicked his ass. It worked like a charm, because he left the city and never ever returned. But who was later the well known villain in the city? Yes, of course, owner of the shop.

In my local "master thieft drunktard clown junkie" is diagnosed with kleptomania. He used to use his disorder for around ten years or more as an excuse for his stealing spree, before even police stopped beliving in his bullshit. Because, how could you still believe it's kleptomania, if you can see him peddling his stolen wares on local market rather daily. When you see him inside any shop there is 69,69% chance he is going to steal something and 30,31% chance that he entered the shop to steal something, but he forgot so he'll be back in a ten minutes or so to steal something.

A girl I used to work with was so abused by her boyfriend she ended up in the hospital. I don't remember with what they diagnosed her, but it didn't end well, sadly. She became a junkie and a thief, causing problems to her family and friends.

And I know, not everyone with a disorder is like that, but it's hard to see the white, when you're in the dark while also blindfolded. Because someone has a problem, it doesn't mean he should be treated differently, either better or worst. We all have problems and our deamons we need to fight.

As for My Dorm, and Emma, she's only adult by number, still a teenager in mind and body. A young female filled with ever changing cocktail of hormones boosted by watching huge amount of porn. Because she act's like it, doesn't mean she does have it. In my opinion she is in need of guidance and good breaks, as she goes from 0 to 100 in matter of seconds, clearly not understanding the consequences of her actions.

 

[Zooooooolfr]

does version 0.15 have everything from the start or do i need to install part 1 before playing it?

 

[Satou Pendragon]

does version 0.15 have everything from the start or do i need to install part 1 before playing it?

Part 1 first

 

[FatGiant]

Those presumtions, or I would rather say prejudices, didn't manifest themselves out of thin air though.
I've been on the other side of the river where people were using thier disorders, or having forged papers stating such things, to have a get out of jail free card to use when caught red-handed when on thier crime-spree. Until they did something really serious, they were basically safe, as law enforcement prefered to just avoid having to torment themselves while dealing with them, not to mention being branded by the pubic for abusing thier power over such people.

My friend, which was a girl, not to mistake her for a girlfriend, was working in a shop in the city close to mine, where a youngster with diagnosed ADHD used to come there, among many other shops. You would think he was quite polite and nice person who wouldn't cause too much trouble, just a bit lost. Well, if you could just look past his stealing spree, then I would say yes. He even used to laugh you in the face when caught red-handed, because his petty theft wasn't really "grave enough" for police to tormet themselves with his disorder, so all what they did was just taking and returning what he took and escorting him out of the shop. Well, that was going on for about few years until one of the shopowners had enough of him and kicked his ass. It worked like a charm, because he left the city and never ever returned. But who was later the well known villain in the city? Yes, of course, owner of the shop.

In my local "master thieft drunktard clown junkie" is diagnosed with kleptomania. He used to use his disorder for around ten years or more as an excuse for his stealing spree, before even police stopped beliving in his bullshit. Because, how could you still believe it's kleptomania, if you can see him peddling his stolen wares on local market rather daily. When you see him inside any shop there is 69,69% chance he is going to steal something and 30,31% chance that he entered the shop to steal something, but he forgot so he'll be back in a ten minutes or so to steal something.

A girl I used to work with was so abused by her boyfriend she ended up in the hospital. I don't remember with what they diagnosed her, but it didn't end well, sadly. She became a junkie and a thief, causing problems to her family and friends.

And I know, not everyone with a disorder is like that, but it's hard to see the white, when you're in the dark while also blindfolded. Because someone has a problem, it doesn't mean he should be treated differently, either better or worst. We all have problems and our deamons we need to fight.

As for My Dorm, and Emma, she's only adult by number, still a teenager in mind and body. A young female filled with ever changing cocktail of hormones boosted by watching huge amount of porn. Because she act's like it, doesn't mean she does have it. In my opinion she is in need of guidance and good breaks, as she goes from 0 to 100 in matter of seconds, clearly not understanding the consequences of her actions.

Ok.

Tell me, what do you think an ADHD person is. What do you think the condition is. What are the consequences of it.

Remember, that I am one, I have lived with it. I am married to another one. Had and raised 4 others (as best I can). I say this before you think that you can pass around anecdotes and biased info as truth.

Just so we start the conversation from a more informed place, the estimated (there are no firm numbers, and never will be) number of people carrying this genetic condition and passing it down their genetic tree, is about 5%. There are all over the world some locus that either by isolation or social constrictions these rates go much higher, up to an astounding 20% in a few places. These locus are small. Very small. Think small town with less than 10,000 people.

Also, with a condition that does most of it's "damage" on the executive parts of the brain, what would you expect the result would be? I say "damage", but there's none of it really. It simply makes our brains have different speeds. We process information very fast, but, since the executive processes are delayed, work memory is not fully engaged, which leads to deficient memorization. Because the language centers are under the purview of the executive center, many of us have a form of dyslexia, yet, we are usually very proficient on a second or third language, because these are NOT managed or stored in the same places.

The way that society in general treats the young carriers, is fundamental on their development. From low self esteem, caused by the "standard" tests, to, social isolation, caused by their difficulties in socializing, all that leads to unbalanced adults that are unable to lead any form of stable lives.

The fact that the executive centers are slower in response, causes us to be VERY impulsive, have a rather large range of emotions (all of them), we are extremely adept to have teenage pregnancies, to get addicted (to anything and everything), to develop many types of comorbidities that will further cause us many more problems. Kleptomania, is one of them. One of the rarer ones tho. That can also exist out of the ADHD complex. We are MUCH more prone to divorces. We are WAY, WAY more prone to suicide. We have a higher number of accidents, with fatalities is the highest, with motorbikes is simply out of the average. These numbers are even worse if you separate them by gender, with males having a rather low chance of surviving above their teen years without any of this happening. ADHD women have the same rates, but, have different ways that they are affected. Comorbidities are also different between males and females. The reason for this is known but I'll refrain to explain it here, because when you can't even understand the basics of this condition and speak of it has something that is the fault of the carrier, then it is completely impossible that you will understand the rest.

An ADHD carrier is a victim. But, it is easier to blame them instead of understanding them, right? They are as able to change their brains and it's processes as you are. They have no responsibility of the way they were born, yet, society decides to brand them as defective and blame them for not being capable to escape their genetic prison. The fact that anxiety, depression and suicides are so high among us (my oldest boy, tried it at 7 years old) also contribute to the social out-casting. It is now established that almost all (as high as 90%) of the adults that survived their teens as ADHD, have PTSD symptoms, caused by the extreme conditions they have lived under.

I'll stop here.

Peace

 

[Trope95]

If we don't kink-shame people on this thread, do we really need to disorder-shame people?
Some people play life in easy mode. They are beautiful, tall, born into a rich family in an advanced country, and without any genetic disorders. It can even be called cheat mode.

Then there are the rest of us.
I'm diabetic.
I have a genetic blood disorder (mutated from one my mother has) that could (will) kill me someday. It already tried twice.
I'm ugly (genetic inheritance), short by modern standards (because of another genetic condition mixed with my inheritance), and bald (genetic inheritance).
I was born into a working family in one of the most backward countries in Western Europe during the 70s. During a dictatorship. I couldn't even have the name my parents wanted for me because it wasn't in the official language approved by the dictator.
I was born with tuberculosis. In a time when there weren't standard medicines to treat it in newborns. I'm here just because my working family (my aunt worked as a cleaner at a university) had a contact who could import experimental meds from Germany. Yes, I was a guinea pig when I was less than a month old.

Can anyone try to shame me because of all or some of those "flaws"? Yes.
Did I choose any of that? No.
Have I paid the consequences of that "beautiful" mix? Yes. But also enjoyed them. I grew up in a loving family (which saved my life turning me into a guinea pig). I enjoyed the most wonderful foods in a McDonald 's-free (backward) country during my young years. I still do. I met a beautiful (short) woman who changed my life and who wouldn't have looked at me twice if I had been 1.80m (6').

So, if anyone wants to shame any person for things that person didn't choose to be born with/into, please, shame me. Now you have the tools.

Don't shame people for carrying ADHD. Don't shame people for being black or white. Don't shame people for being Americans, French, or Indonesian. Don't shame people for being extremely fat or thin, short or tall.

I've heard the "I knew a (or several) person(s) with X characteristic and it's a bad person (add here anything you want to criticize)" too many times. X can be a skin color, nationality, gender, sexual preference, job, or any characteristic different from what the speaker considers "standard" or their own "group". The speaker should ask themselves if everyone in their "group" is a good person. The answer usually is "NO". So being a caucasian white Spaniard diabetic bald short ex-guinea-pig male is not a foolproof recipe to be a good person (even if I considered myself as such). Neither is any other combination. For goodness or badness.

Remember my second sentence in this text wall. People playing in easy mode. How many of those who were born with the cheat mode enabled would be your best man at your wedding? Are they really winners if they haven't met you?

To keep the post on topic with the game. How would you feel criticizing Kim for her vitiligo? I'm not talking about whether she's attractive or not for you. I'm talking about trying to skin-shame her. For something she didn't choose. Even if you know someone with vitiligo who is a bad person.

 

[Bad Wolf]

If we don't kink-shame people on this thread, do we really need to disorder-shame people?
Some people play life in easy mode. They are beautiful, tall, born into a rich family in an advanced country, and without any genetic disorders. It can even be called cheat mode.

Then there are the rest of us.
I'm diabetic.
I have a genetic blood disorder (mutated from one my mother has) that could (will) kill me someday. It already tried twice.
I'm ugly (genetic inheritance), short by modern standards (because of another genetic condition mixed with my inheritance), and bald (genetic inheritance).
I was born into a working family in one of the most backward countries in Western Europe during the 70s. During a dictatorship. I couldn't even have the name my parents wanted for me because it wasn't in the official language approved by the dictator.
I was born with tuberculosis. In a time when there weren't standard medicines to treat it in newborns. I'm here just because my working family (my aunt worked as a cleaner at a university) had a contact who could import experimental meds from Germany. Yes, I was a guinea pig when I was less than a month old.

Can anyone try to shame me because of all or some of those "flaws"? Yes.
Did I choose any of that? No.
Have I paid the consequences of that "beautiful" mix? Yes. But also enjoyed them. I grew up in a loving family (which saved my life turning me into a guinea pig). I enjoyed the most wonderful foods in a McDonald 's-free (backward) country during my young years. I still do. I met a beautiful (short) woman who changed my life and who wouldn't have looked at me twice if I had been 1.80m (6').

So, if anyone wants to shame any person for things that person didn't choose to be born with/into, please, shame me. Now you have the tools.

Don't shame people for carrying ADHD. Don't shame people for being black or white. Don't shame people for being Americans, French, or Indonesian. Don't shame people for being extremely fat or thin, short or tall.

I've heard the "I knew a (or several) person(s) with X characteristic and it's a bad person (add here anything you want to criticize)" too many times. X can be a skin color, nationality, gender, sexual preference, job, or any characteristic different from what the speaker considers "standard" or their own "group". The speaker should ask themselves if everyone in their "group" is a good person. The answer usually is "NO". So being a caucasian white Spaniard diabetic bald short ex-guinea-pig male is not a foolproof recipe to be a good person (even if I considered myself as such). Neither is any other combination. For goodness or badness.

Remember my second sentence in this text wall. People playing in easy mode. How many of those who were born with the cheat mode enabled would be your best man at your wedding? Are they really winners if they haven't met you?

To keep the post on topic with the game. How would you feel criticizing Kim for her vitiligo? I'm not talking about whether she's attractive or not for you. I'm talking about trying to skin-shame her. For something she didn't choose. Even if you know someone with vitiligo who is a bad person.

I 100% agree. Have always agreed with this. Hated bullies. Still hate them. But unlike you, I had the cheat mode, mostly, growin up. Parents were loaded, good lookin, tall, had the right genetics to build my muscles so well, I could've been a bodybuilder. I just did it for myself. Never got sick until the damn covid came around, caught it 4 times. I'm in my 50s. I lost the luck of the draw and health went to shit, body went to shit. A year and a half ago, I was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma and was given an expiration date. Due to chemo, I've lost my physique and my hair. No biggie though. It is what it is. For the most part, I had an amazin life. Not everyone gets that. I can't apologize for bein born with cheat mode set to on. Nor would I. While I can't understand what you or anyone else has gone through, I can empathize.

What people need to remember is we don't know what others are goin through in their lives. Judgin or makin fun of people over things they can't control, makes you a bully.

Also to keep this on topic: Kim is beautiful. All the women in this game are beautiful. I just prefer Daphne.

 

[FatGiant]

If we don't kink-shame people on this thread, do we really need to disorder-shame people?
Some people play life in easy mode. They are beautiful, tall, born into a rich family in an advanced country, and without any genetic disorders. It can even be called cheat mode.

Then there are the rest of us.
I'm diabetic.
I have a genetic blood disorder (mutated from one my mother has) that could (will) kill me someday. It already tried twice.
I'm ugly (genetic inheritance), short by modern standards (because of another genetic condition mixed with my inheritance), and bald (genetic inheritance).
I was born into a working family in one of the most backward countries in Western Europe during the 70s. During a dictatorship. I couldn't even have the name my parents wanted for me because it wasn't in the official language approved by the dictator.
I was born with tuberculosis. In a time when there weren't standard medicines to treat it in newborns. I'm here just because my working family (my aunt worked as a cleaner at a university) had a contact who could import experimental meds from Germany. Yes, I was a guinea pig when I was less than a month old.

Can anyone try to shame me because of all or some of those "flaws"? Yes.
Did I choose any of that? No.
Have I paid the consequences of that "beautiful" mix? Yes. But also enjoyed them. I grew up in a loving family (which saved my life turning me into a guinea pig). I enjoyed the most wonderful foods in a McDonald 's-free (backward) country during my young years. I still do. I met a beautiful (short) woman who changed my life and who wouldn't have looked at me twice if I had been 1.80m (6').

So, if anyone wants to shame any person for things that person didn't choose to be born with/into, please, shame me. Now you have the tools.

Don't shame people for carrying ADHD. Don't shame people for being black or white. Don't shame people for being Americans, French, or Indonesian. Don't shame people for being extremely fat or thin, short or tall.

I've heard the "I knew a (or several) person(s) with X characteristic and it's a bad person (add here anything you want to criticize)" too many times. X can be a skin color, nationality, gender, sexual preference, job, or any characteristic different from what the speaker considers "standard" or their own "group". The speaker should ask themselves if everyone in their "group" is a good person. The answer usually is "NO". So being a caucasian white Spaniard diabetic bald short ex-guinea-pig male is not a foolproof recipe to be a good person (even if I considered myself as such). Neither is any other combination. For goodness or badness.

Remember my second sentence in this text wall. People playing in easy mode. How many of those who were born with the cheat mode enabled would be your best man at your wedding? Are they really winners if they haven't met you?

To keep the post on topic with the game. How would you feel criticizing Kim for her vitiligo? I'm not talking about whether she's attractive or not for you. I'm talking about trying to skin-shame her. For something she didn't choose. Even if you know someone with vitiligo who is a bad person.

Fuck... I'm crying... Tears of joy, of pain, of sympathy, of empathy, of pride, of ... humanity.

There's nothing more to say.

Peace

 

[Trope95]

I 100% agree. Have always agreed with this. Hated bullies. Still hate them. But unlike you, I had the cheat mode, mostly, growin up. Parents were loaded, good lookin, tall, had the right genetics to build my muscles so well, I could've been a bodybuilder. I just did it for myself. Never got sick until the damn covid came around, caught it 4 times. I'm in my 50s. I lost the luck of the draw and health went to shit, body went to shit. A year and a half ago, I was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma and was given an expiration date. Due to chemo, I've lost my physique and my hair. No biggie though. It is what it is. For the most part, I had an amazin life. Not everyone gets that. I can't apologize for bein born with cheat mode set to on. Nor would I. While I can't understand what you or anyone else has gone through, I can empathize.

What people need to remember is we don't know what others are goin through in their lives. Judgin or makin fun of people over things they can't control, makes you a bully.

Also to keep this on topic: Kim is beautiful. All the women in this game are beautiful. I just prefer Daphne.

You don't have to apologize for being born with the cheat mode set to on. You don't need to and shouldn't do it. You chose it as much as I chose my tuberculosis.
That's what I was talking about. No one should apologize or feel bad for what they haven't chosen. No one should criticize them for it. Be it "good" or "bad" (I know, what's good or bad is subjective).
I can be criticized for a lot of things I chose to do with the cards I was dealt. But not for the cards themselves.
I'm sorry to hear about your lymphoma. Best wishes!

Fuck... I'm crying... Tears of joy, of pain, of sympathy, of empathy, of pride, of ... humanity.

There's nothing more to say.

Peace

Did you have any doubts what would be my response to the topic? I'm doing a game about acceptance!
Jack wasn't born an asshole. He decided to be one. Criticizable.
Kim decided as much about her skin color as Martha, Samantha, Alexia, or Maddie. No one of them should be criticized for it.
Samantha decided, with her cards, to become a workaholic. Somewhat criticizable.
And so on.
As I told Dark Silence, you had the same power of decision over your ADHD as I had over my TB or my Leyden.
Assholes will understand I need meds to control my health, but won't try to understand yours. They are the same assholes who will say to a depressed person "Don't overthink things".
Shit! There are whole countries where ADHD isn't considered an issue! Some months ago another player with ADHD told me he had rejected a job in Japan because ADHD wasn't recognized there and he wouldn't be able to buy his meds in Japan and couldn't privately import them from his country!

 

[Yarazin]

Hi, loving the game. Finished part 1 and am in part 2 now. I tried searching but was getting frustrated with that so I will just ask. Is there a scene in part 1 where you can get Daphne pregnant? I did not have such a scene but noticed there was a variable for it.
If I missed the scene I want to start again.

 

[Trope95]

Hi, loving the game. Finished part 1 and am in part 2 now. I tried searching but was getting frustrated with that so I will just ask. Is there a scene in part 1 where you can get Daphne pregnant? I did not have such a scene but noticed there was a variable for it.
If I missed the scene I want to start again.

Welcome to the Dorm.
No, it hasn't happened in Part 1, Dapne's pregnancy is a Part 2 thing

 

[Satou Pendragon]

Hi, loving the game. Finished part 1 and am in part 2 now. I tried searching but was getting frustrated with that so I will just ask. Is there a scene in part 1 where you can get Daphne pregnant? I did not have such a scene but noticed there was a variable for it.
If I missed the scene I want to start again.

Ehmm....without trying to sound aggresive You played part 1 through it but did you see a sex scene for Daphne so she can get pregnant?

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Hi, loving the game. Finished part 1 and am in part 2 now. I tried searching but was getting frustrated with that so I will just ask. Is there a scene in part 1 where you can get Daphne pregnant? I did not have such a scene but noticed there was a variable for it.
If I missed the scene I want to start again.

Not in part 1

 

[Satou Pendragon]

Welcome to the Dorm.
No, it haven't happened in Part 1, Dapne's pregnancy is a Part 2 thing

Stop with the Secposting Trop

 

[Trope95]

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Stop with the Secposting Trop

You will laugh, but only in your answer I saw my grammar mistake.

 

[Satou Pendragon]

You will laugh, but only in your answer I saw my grammar mistake.

Right, didn't even see that.

 

[Yarazin]

Ehmm....without trying to sound aggresive You played part 1 through it but did you see a sex scene for Daphne so she can get pregnant?

No but was worried I missed something with a choice I made. Since I noticed the variable I thought maybe I had to not do certain routes for it to happen