FatGiant

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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
 

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Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
Oh that sounds quite what Trope meant.
In that case I would actually not translate it at all, since translated it would indeed be must or grape juice which it both isn't.
 
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Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
Not a fixation, it just seemed weird to me and I replied to someone else who mentioned it.
Seems to be a European thing then to sell it maybe. I've encountered verjuice but that's unripe grapes. If its done around where I live probably not called Must then when they do (edit: which makes sense because you know, it technically wouldnt be without the pulp and shit). Thanks for the info though.
 
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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
Trope95 do you guy's in the old world call it "Turba de Uva" as well ?
How Alexia told me
In Germany it is called "Apfelmost"(made out of apples) popular in the Hessen region (around Frankfurt ) it is sold refined as by product of Cider (Äpelwoi) production, I've seen also in the Lake Constance region the so called "Traubenmost".
As Daphne can confirm since she is cultural interested
 
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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
It's even written in the bottle "Mosto gasificado" (must with gas). The more traditional version doesn't have gas.

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I'm no one to say Merriam Webster knowledge of English is wrong.

Fortunately, I've never seen an AK47 or an AR-15 where I live, in military barracks I served, or in armories I visited (aside than in museums). It doesn't mean they doesn't exist. Should I think they don't exist because I didn't see them in my area?

Returning to wine, and taking into account that champagne was invented at the end of 17th century, I guess an inhabitant in Habana, New York, Montreal, or Beijing at the start of 18th century wouldn't have seen it or heard of it. Does it meant it didn't exist? The US is one of the places in the world with bigger food/drink imports (if not the biggest), so you can find almost everything produced around. In enough quantities to be mainstream? Obviously not.
 
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It's even written in the bottle "Mosto gasificado" (must with gas). The more traditional version doesn't have gas.

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I feel you are a bit defensive over my simple comment. I never claimed it didn't exist. Note the also in your screenshot, we were just both apparently used to seeing the word used very differently. Already been cleared up a few posts above anyway.
 

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Trope95 do you guy's in the old world call it "Turba de Uva" as well ?
In Germany it is called "Apfelmost" popular in the Hessen region (around Frankfurt ) it is sold refined as by product of Cider (Äpelwoi) production, I've seen also in the Lake Constance region the so called "Traubenmost".
My Grandmother did it in 2 different ways, one was with only Red Grapes of a particularly sweet variety, it is grown mostly in the Center of Portugal, it's called "Morangueira". It's characterized by small grapes, very sweet, but with a thick and unpleasant to eat skin. It produces a low alcohol wine, in spite of the sugar content, because it is meant to be drunk quite young and not fully fermented. Almost a "Green" wine (another Portuguese way of making wine). But, this "Mosto" is only drunk on the time of the Harvest, it is taken from the pressed result of the first Harvest, filtered, watered, and chilled. It is not meant to last more than 2 or 3 days.

Then the one she made with Red and White grapes, less sweet, but more tasty, also lasted longer, this was done with select grapes through the Harvest, the biggest more juicy ones were set apart to be kept in water and in the dark so they wouldn't mature further. These were lately pressed on a clean machine, filtered and chilled. There was no need to water it down, the grapes had filled completely and were full of water. This was quite special and kept in bottles in the dark to last until Christmas. Why it didn't ferment, is still a mystery to me. Near Christmas, my Grandmother poured the bottles into a large vat, added some weak "Aguardente" from the first pass of the Alambique, and bottled it again. It is now called "Jeropiga" and even being low alcohol it is very sweet and goes famously with braised chestnuts.

Thanks for this trip to my memories, it has been a while since I had been there.

Peace :)
 

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Just had a thought, there is another scene i'm waiting for too.

Gran.

Not the first time i've had to wait for gran sex so i'm used to it. Feel bad for forgetting her in my fixation on Kim.
Kim is indeed precious.

Martha is my focus here, but, I have to say, Kate is incredible. Look, all the women in this game are awesome. Each for it's own reason.

Yet, Kate, is the one I would truly want to meet IRL. Couldn't even care if we weren't romantically involved. or sexually... It isn't about that.

Peace :D
 

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Kim is indeed precious.

Martha is my focus here, but, I have to say, Kate is incredible. Look, all the women in this game are awesome. Each for it's own reason.

Yet, Kate, is the one I would truly want to meet IRL. Couldn't even care if we weren't romantically involved. or sexually... It isn't about that.

Peace :D
I like Kate, hoping she gets a decent scene, she deserves happiness.

I just adore Kim though. At first I liked her because I love unique looking character models and not many games have characters with Vitiligo. In fact I can only think of 3 and one is abandoned.

Then I got to know her character and her just wanting somewhere to belong and be loved and I was hooked.

Debbie is a very close behind her but things have already started on her route so i'm quite happy there.

Betty i've been wanting to see get involved from near the time she was introduced. She always seemed to be on the outside watching everyone else enjoy themselves so was happy she is now involved. Her scene was great too.

Kiara I just wanted to see happy but Trops knocked her scene out of the park. She's not my fave but she had my fave scene.

Alexia is my number one. She's a stunner and I love that bush. Sam was second but she trimmed hers down so Kim and Debbie took over.

BUUUUUUT, if Trops ever trims the Yeti then I riot.
 

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I like Kate, hoping she gets a decent scene, she deserves happiness.

I just adore Kim though. At first I liked her because I love unique looking character models and not many games have characters with Vitiligo. In fact I can only think of 3 and one is abandoned.

Then I got to know her character and her just wanting somewhere to belong and be loved and I was hooked.

Debbie is a very close behind her but things have already started on her route so i'm quite happy there.

Betty i've been wanting to see get involved from near the time she was introduced. She always seemed to be on the outside watching everyone else enjoy themselves so was happy she is now involved. Her scene was great too.

Kiara I just wanted to see happy but Trops knocked her scene out of the park. She's not my fave but she had my fave scene.

Alexia is my number one. She's a stunner and I love that bush. Sam was second but she trimmed hers down so Kim and Debbie took over.

BUUUUUUT, if Trops ever trims the Yeti then I riot.
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johnny0183

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I like Kate, hoping she gets a decent scene, she deserves happiness.

I just adore Kim though. At first I liked her because I love unique looking character models and not many games have characters with Vitiligo. In fact I can only think of 3 and one is abandoned.

Then I got to know her character and her just wanting somewhere to belong and be loved and I was hooked.

Debbie is a very close behind her but things have already started on her route so i'm quite happy there.

Betty i've been wanting to see get involved from near the time she was introduced. She always seemed to be on the outside watching everyone else enjoy themselves so was happy she is now involved. Her scene was great too.

Kiara I just wanted to see happy but Trops knocked her scene out of the park. She's not my fave but she had my fave scene.

Alexia is my number one. She's a stunner and I love that bush. Sam was second but she trimmed hers down so Kim and Debbie took over.

BUUUUUUT, if Trops ever trims the Yeti then I riot.
Lucky for you Trope already said Alexa will always keep the Yeti because it's part of her identity.
 
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