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Anyone able to give me a rough time estimate to catch up to the current version? I usually leave vns a couple updates or so before playing. Last time I downloaded was v.0.20.1 (Season 2-Chapter 7)
 
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xapican

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I've noticed that quite often when two characters are on the screen their responses show up reversed from their actual positions on screen. It happens often enough that I feel like it must be intentional. Could you share the reasoning? Trope95

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That, happens because you probably live in the northern hemisphere, here down in the south hemisphere they are correct since here is everything the other way around. .......:geek:
Nah kidding man, I didn't even notice till you pointed out wierd indeed.
 

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Anyone able to give me a rough time estimate to catch up to the current version? I usually leave vns a couple updates or so before playing. Last time I downloaded was v.0.20.1 (Season 2-Chapter 7)
You have 4 updates to play (0.21-0.24): 110,239 words, 8,450 dialogue lines, 7,059 still images, 156 animations with 42,550 frames. Depending on your reading speed and if you are on everyone's path, you should have around 10-14 hours of gameplay.
 

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American childhood obesity, Ladies and Gentlemen.
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The top one, a Brazilian pizza, is the only one of those I've ever actually had (it's really good).
Is that a pizza with all those ticklish strands of mozzarella removed with wax (including any strays found on the bottom of the pie) before being baked to a nice dark brown in the sun??
a caramelized squash cream replacing the tomato in the base
:unsure: My attention is piqued. Gonna have to check amazon to see if anybody sells something like that so I can try it...
Gee - if only I'd played this on the 4th...
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Well, at least nobody thought you had a speech impediment.
According to some of the extra footage found by Peter Jackson a couple years ago, Paul being annoying and repetitive just like in that gif was one of the reasons George and John quit the band. :sneaky: :cry:
We call that the Canadian
Yeah...but does it take it's spouse's name when it gets married?? :LOL:
 
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By the way, over here when a woman get married she keeps her surname, she can ad if she wishes, the spouse name, with the prefix "de"
xyz Rodriguez marries xyz Fernandez she can update her papers to Rodriguez de Fernadez ; (Time consuming and nobody does it nowadays)
 

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By the way, over here when a woman get married she keeps her surname, she can ad if she wishes, the spouse name, with the prefix "de"
xyz Rodriguez marries xyz Fernandez she can update her papers to Rodriguez de Fernadez ; (Time consuming and nobody does it nowadays)
Even in the US there are people that do that, usually they hyphenate the names together (XX Rogers and YY Martin become Rogers-Martin or Martin-Rogers (up to them how they do it).

And I have a cousin that she and her husband chose a new last name for them both, entirely unrelated to either family. I presume their previous last names are on their marriage license in some capacity, but I didn't actually see it, so who knows.
 

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Even in the US there are people that do that, usually they hyphenate the names together (XX Rogers and YY Martin become Rogers-Martin or Martin-Rogers (up to them how they do it).

And I have a cousin that she and her husband chose a new last name for them both, entirely unrelated to either family. I presume their previous last names are on their marriage license in some capacity, but I didn't actually see it, so who knows.
Continuing with Xap's explanation, it's a bit different than in the US. ONLY the wife can add the "de" clause (at least in Spain, where nobody does it anymore). Informally, my wife can be referenced as "Sra. de MyLastName" (Mrs. of MyLastName, denoting she's my "property") even if she didn't change it officially. Only very old people use that nowadays, and, at most, they call her Mrs. MyLastName (also seldomly used).

We get two last names (one from the father, and one from the mother. Usually in that order). In your Rogers-Martin example, I guess both are called Rogers-Martin and their kids will be called Rogers-Martin.
If Mr. Fernández González marries Ms. García Sánchez, she can change her surnames to García de Fernández Sánchez. The underlined part becoming her first surname. But their kids will be Fernández García, not Fernández García de Fernández.

Yes, we are weird.
 

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Continuing with Xap's explanation, it's a bit different than in the US. ONLY the wife can add the "de" clause (at least in Spain, where nobody does it anymore). Informally, my wife can be referenced as "Sra. de MyLastName" (Mrs. of MyLastName, denoting she's my "property") even if she didn't change it officially. Only very old people use that nowadays, and, at most, they call her Mrs. MyLastName (also seldomly used).

We get two last names (one from the father, and one from the mother. Usually in that order). In your Rogers-Martin example, I guess both are called Rogers-Martin and their kids will be called Rogers-Martin.
If Mr. Fernández González marries Ms. García Sánchez, she can change her surnames to García de Fernández Sánchez. The underlined part becoming her first surname. But their kids will be Fernández García, not Fernández García de Fernández.

Yes, we are weird.
Exactly ! I think, this is adopted from Spain, since it is in the whole Hispano American room (this excludes Brasil, and the Guyanas)
As we were, in differnce to others Vize Kingdoms.
 
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Since dialogue stuff is getting posted here, Debbie should be saying "Kim and me", unless you want it to read as the grammatically incorrect mistake many people do often make. But, since these are college girls and Debbie seems to be from an affluent family, it's likely she'd say it properly.
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For any that might disagree with me, or who may be less familiar with the oddities of English, read the sentence without "you, Lisa, and" and you'll see what I mean - that's the test.
 
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Continuing with Xap's explanation, it's a bit different than in the US. ONLY the wife can add the "de" clause (at least in Spain, where nobody does it anymore). Informally, my wife can be referenced as "Sra. de MyLastName" (Mrs. of MyLastName, denoting she's my "property") even if she didn't change it officially. Only very old people use that nowadays, and, at most, they call her Mrs. MyLastName (also seldomly used).

We get two last names (one from the father, and one from the mother. Usually in that order). In your Rogers-Martin example, I guess both are called Rogers-Martin and their kids will be called Rogers-Martin.
If Mr. Fernández González marries Ms. García Sánchez, she can change her surnames to García de Fernández Sánchez. The underlined part becoming her first surname. But their kids will be Fernández García, not Fernández García de Fernández.

Yes, we are weird.
Here, in the small Iberian Rectangle, we do it differently.

3 options:
1- The married couple DON'T change their names. The most common nowadays, mostly because it is a PITA to change it back after a divorce.
2- The married couple BOTH change their names. Rare, but possible, this takes the form of appending the last surname. We get 2 surnames, the first one called "Matronímico" is from Mother's last surname, the 2nd called "Patronímico" is the last surname of the Father. In effect, it is derived from the surnames of our Grandfathers. When adding a last name both change the surname to one of theirs. They have 4 to choose from.
3- The married couple only ONE change their names. This was the rule for centuries, the wife would add the husbands "Patronímico". There are cases, as in my family, where the surname is composed of 2 surnames connected by a "de", in this case, it is the choice of the married couple, if they append the full surname or only one of them. This tends to make women's names incredibly long with 3 or 4 surnames besides the traditional 2 names.

Wars and Feuds were fought over these rules. Lineages and "Families" all exerted pressure over the married people to force the adoption of what rule was more favorable to their plans.

It may sound weird that people marry already making plans for what could happen in a divorce, but if you think about it, it makes complete sense. The romantic version "married forever", is no longer a credible option to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. It may happen, it may not... let's be smart and make provisions to make our life easier.

I know of at least 10 couples, that married, divorced, still live together, raising their children. What type of arrangement they have in the bedroom(s), is what works for them. Some are open, some are half-open (not always the husband), some are closed. And some are whatever and everything goes. In these cases, the naming conventions stopped making sense a long time ago.

Peace :D
 

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Continuing with Xap's explanation, it's a bit different than in the US. ONLY the wife can add the "de" clause (at least in Spain, where nobody does it anymore). Informally, my wife can be referenced as "Sra. de MyLastName" (Mrs. of MyLastName, denoting she's my "property") even if she didn't change it officially. Only very old people use that nowadays, and, at most, they call her Mrs. MyLastName (also seldomly used).

We get two last names (one from the father, and one from the mother. Usually in that order). In your Rogers-Martin example, I guess both are called Rogers-Martin and their kids will be called Rogers-Martin.
If Mr. Fernández González marries Ms. García Sánchez, she can change her surnames to García de Fernández Sánchez. The underlined part becoming her first surname. But their kids will be Fernández García, not Fernández García de Fernández.

Yes, we are weird.
As far as i am aware its actually still pretty common here in Canada for the wife to take her husband's last name. My wife took mine when we got matried although she didn't like her maiden name.
Apparently 80 percent of women in the states take their husbands last name. It is becoming more common not too.
 

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Is that a pizza with all those ticklish strands of mozzarella removed with wax (including any strays found on the bottom of the pie) before being baked to a nice dark brown in the sun??
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Yeah...but does it take it's spouse's name when it gets married?? :LOL:
No... but, it wears a tuque and says "sore-ee" and "uh-boot" a lot...
;)
 
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