Goopgoop

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Pretty sure "they" did not. A one-time event (how S1 transitioned to S2 in this AVN) is never the basis for an "expectation." Even the most simple line requires 2 data points, and even then no statistician would take 2 points and automatically assume that a third point would fall perfectly in line with the previous 2. Expectations arise from false assumptions made by users. The progression of AVNs is probably much closer to being a chaotic system (maybe even stochasitic) than a deterministic one, so if one sees something happen once in an AVN update it is only going to cause frustration to expect every update in the future to be exactly the same. :cool:
Whilst I'm not arguing with your statements about statistics, there are way more than just 1 datapoint. After all, this isn't the only VN around. And whilst the process is far form uniform, explicitly stating the end of a Season is quite common and not at all an unreasonable assumption from a game which has itself done so in the past.

While it's true that a single line requires two data points, and statisticians are cautious with limited data, the statement 'expectations arise from false assumptions' is overly simplistic and axiomatically false. Expectations can be based on accurate information and well-founded assumptions. It's essential to consider the context and underlying data quality before making such broad generalizations. ;)

In any case, it's no big deal. It was unclear, I asked, it got clarified. Fun talk, have a nice wank.
 

FatGiant

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Whilst I'm not arguing with your statements about statistics, there are way more than just 1 datapoint. After all, this isn't the only VN around. And whilst the process is far form uniform, explicitly stating the end of a Season is quite common and not at all an unreasonable assumption from a game which has itself done so in the past.

While it's true that a single line requires two data points, and statisticians are cautious with limited data, the statement 'expectations arise from false assumptions' is overly simplistic and axiomatically false. Expectations can be based on accurate information and well-founded assumptions. It's essential to consider the context and underlying data quality before making such broad generalizations. ;)

In any case, it's no big deal. It was unclear, I asked, it got clarified. Fun talk, have a nice wank.
Considering that "Learning from Experience" is a de facto use of assumptions and extrapolation, neither of you is wrong. Or both are.

The thing is, the method used in going from Season 1 to Season 2, proved itself unreliable and needed too much user caution. We all know that relying on people doing what they're told, is a recipe for trouble. So, the process was simplified and removed a LOT of user caution. Not all of it, unfortunately.

Expecting it to work on the second interaction as it did on the first, is a reasonable assumption.

BUT.

Expecting no evolution or improvement is not. The only Universal Constant is Change. Adaptation and Learning from Experience, the basis of Humanity overwhelming success, are not in conflict, they are concurrent methods.

Expect Change. Assume Change. Adapt, Learn, Overcome.

:: Steps down from the Soap Box ::

Thank you for coming to my Fat Talk.

Peace :)
 

Goopgoop

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Considering that "Learning from Experience" is a de facto use of assumptions and extrapolation, neither of you is wrong. Or both are.

The thing is, the method used in going from Season 1 to Season 2, proved itself unreliable and needed too much user caution. We all know that relying on people doing what they're told, is a recipe for trouble. So, the process was simplified and removed a LOT of user caution. Not all of it, unfortunately.

Expecting it to work on the second interaction as it did on the first, is a reasonable assumption.

BUT.

Expecting no evolution or improvement is not. The only Universal Constant is Change. Adaptation and Learning from Experience, the basis of Humanity overwhelming success, are not in conflict, they are concurrent methods.

Expect Change. Assume Change. Adapt, Learn, Overcome.

:: Steps down from the Soap Box ::

Thank you for coming to my Fat Talk.

Peace :)
Oh absolutely. It's very understandable from a developer's perspective and it wasn't a problem for me at all. I'm fairly laid back about life in general. That's why my interaction started with inquisition. There was some conflicting information. On the one hand the message at the end of the season, on the other hand the very existence of a third season. So rather than make assumptions, I just asked. And was answered in short order.

But whenever someone very enthusiastic about knowledge and the rational method is inaccurate in their address, I would feel remiss not to help them out.
 

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Whilst I'm not arguing with your statements about statistics, there are way more than just 1 datapoint. After all, this isn't the only VN around. And whilst the process is far form uniform, explicitly stating the end of a Season is quite common and not at all an unreasonable assumption from a game which has itself done so in the past.

While it's true that a single line requires two data points, and statisticians are cautious with limited data, the statement 'expectations arise from false assumptions' is overly simplistic and axiomatically false. Expectations can be based on accurate information and well-founded assumptions. It's essential to consider the context and underlying data quality before making such broad generalizations. ;)
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FatGiant

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My computer that originally had the saves that I could continue from became obsolete where I couldn't transfer it. I know I can play from 2nd season and continue but that is a lot of time.
Ctrl or Tab, makes it a breeze. The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes. Then, you also have the in-game switches that let's you fix or change any of the decisions...

If you were to answer those questions, you'd take the same time.

So, what is REALLY your problem with speed forward to the end of Season 2, in order to make a valid save? Time? Effort? Patience? Any of those are denied by the fact that it would take longer, take more effort and be a lot more boring than the method I point out.

It would also cause more work, for no reason at all... so... I dunno... Breadsticks? Something to chew on while waiting?

Peace :unsure:
 
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Ctrl or Tab, makes it a breeze. The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes. Then, you also have the in-game switches that let's you fix or change any of the decisions...

If you were to answer those questions, you'd take the same time.

So, what is REALLY your problem with speed forward to the end of Season 2, in order to make a valid save? Time? Effort? Patience? Any of those are denied by the fact that it would take longer, take more effort and be a lot more boring than the method I point out.

It would also cause more work, for no reason at all... so... I dunno... Breadsticks? Something to chew on while waiting?

Peace :unsure:
Didn't say problem just a wish. That was all. Thanks.
 

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Commissioned Art (VI) - Betty and Norah

You know Meemaw Tier subscribers have the chance to ask for three custom images at no extra cost, right?

This month, there is a subscriber to that tier, and he asked for a series of images based on our girls once they are pregnant.

He permitted me to share them with you. Thanks, TigerWolfe

Here's the first one of the series, as a homage to the prehistoric fertility goddesses.

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And about the teaser, I will compensate for it by giving Norah the biggest scene (render-wise) I ever did. Yes, I know that sentence is also a teaser :devilish: .
Oh boy who can I wait after reading this and see her pregnant you're an evil man for teasing like that ! :ROFLMAO:
 
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