VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.27.3 S3 Ch.7] [Tropecita Games]

[armion82]

I haven't played those games, so I don't know what you mean, sorry


Those two, Megan and Sophie, won't fit in the harem for different reasons. They were designed as side-chicks from the start, as was Maddie. With Maddie, I found a reason to make her join under some circumstances.
I could find a reason for Megan to join if I change her a bit, as the main reason in her design to not join was that she doesn't live in Newport and won't move. Someone pointed out that not all the women in a harem necessarily should live with MC. I had a wrong concept about this.
But Sophie is very difficult to justify personality-wise. Who wants a gossiper in an incest-included harem?

In BARS,MC's sister was shot.

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In PA-his mother.

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[snakeplisskin]

Note that I haven't gotten to the part of the story with those two yet, so I can't comment too much in-depth on them. However, personally I should note that the problem with the idea of designing women as side-girls from the start is: What if, it turns out that your audience ends up liking a girl far more, proportionally, than your initial classification of the girl's status suggests? I know that snakeplisskin said that he really liked Megan, for example, and wanted her in the harem.
With Sophie, I can see how that would be difficult to justify without significant character development, but the question is who deserves how much amount of character development? I see heroines all as "potential main girls" rather than "this woman is a main girl" and "this woman is a side girl", and to dynamically adjust allocation of amount of character development/screentime/effort put into the character's story and scenes based on audience reaction.

I actually really enjoy when there are side or minor girls there to let the MC have some fun early while properly establishing relationships with the main LIs.

 

[Trope95]

In BARS,MC's sister was shot.

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In PA-his mother.

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Thanks for the info. Those games look good
No, no LI or (female) family member will die in My Dorm. They had their share of deaths with the plane crash. And Mystery Girl is there to avoid it.
Although there's a bit of drama and violence, at the end of the day My Dorm tries to be a 'feel good game'

 

[WICKEDp4th]

Thanks for the info. Those games look good
No, no LI or (female) family member will die in My Dorm. They had their share of deaths with the plane crash. And Mystery Girl is there to avoid it.
Although there's a bit of drama and violence, at the end of the day My Dorm tries to be a 'feel good game'

In become a rock star the sister doesn’t die, the other game I do not know (never played).

 

[snakeplisskin]

Thanks for the info. Those games look good
No, no LI or (female) family member will die in My Dorm. They had their share of deaths with the plane crash. And Mystery Girl is there to avoid it.
Although there's a bit of drama and violence, at the end of the day My Dorm tries to be a 'feel good game'

I havent played PA but in BARS the sister is only shot she makes a full recovery. It also leads to a bunch of break ups for the MC because all the LI show up at the hospitial to comfort him and find out about each other. Which was fun to watch because the Dev had been honest that cheating would be a problem but no one believed him bfore that.

 

[FunFuntomes]

In become a rock star the sister doesn’t die, the other game I do not know (never played).

she doesn't die in PA, just has a bit of amnesia

 

[WICKEDp4th]

she doesn't die in PA, just has a bit of amnesia

Would you be so kind to enlighten me? What is PA (full name), thank you!

 

[Jove76]

As personal preference, I would agree with the desire to harem every girl in the universe - That is what fantasy is for. However, none of us have any idea of your plans for the plot, and you should not sacrifice any measure of the story, as you wish to tell it, to appease the whims of individuals. If it is quality, I will enjoy it as it is, and do not expect everything as I might happen to prefer it. Tell your story.

 

[Sir Anal]

What is PA (full name), thank you!

Project Atmosphere

 

[snakeplisskin]

They only appeared once, so not much content with them except for introducing the girls.
I understand what you mean, designing them (Sophie, Maddie, and Megan) as side-girls is something that I won't do if I ever write another game. Their function was to provide 'fun content' while the relationship with the 'main' girls developed, and they ended as a side note.

With Maddie, I changed my mind and she will appear in 0.6 to start her path(s), as nothing is written in stone until published.

Megan will return in 0.7 or 0.8 (0.7 concept is growing a lot bigger than I thought) and Sophie an update after that. So perhaps I can find a reason to include them in the harem, but I can't promise anything. Obviously, it isn't necessary for me to decide about it before their next appearances, as I can begin that path as planned originally and decide before the planned break up.

Megan is getting a lot more love than I thought she will, here and on other sites. As I said, nothing is written in stone.


Maddie CAN be a part of the harem. She has three paths: FemDom, MaleDom, and Romance if you peeped on Martha. Only romance if you didn't. Only the Romance path assures her in the harem. The other two don't bar her from entering the harem, but there should be some other coincidences.

About Saira, there are a couple of messages some time ago, but to recap:
* She's on the main menu image!
* Her last lines were
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* There's a student in the first batch that will arrive later than the other four.
* That student paid for a double room for herself and asked for it to be painted yellow.

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* But, in the main menu image, they seem friendly, so that relationship should develop

The problem with the gotta have them all games is similar to fetishes, you will always be disappointing someone.

Not every girl is going to be everyones cup of tea plus most people dont like forced relationships so everyone has to been optional.

While i am happy to hear that a lot of people Megan and she might be getting promoted to full LI at the end of the day ypu still need to make the gamenthat makes you happy and aligns with your wants. So if promoting side girls to full harem members is what you want to do then go for, but if it isnt dont worry about it.

Some of my favourite porn VNs of all time are solo love interest games where you literally can only have one girl or there is only one love interest. What makes a game great and enjoyable is the effort put into the writing which you are doing a amqzing job at.

Also if you are implying that Saira is coming back just after the first batch of girls. I cant wait to see the cat fight between her and Eileen.

 

[Trope95]

As personal preference, I would agree with the desire to harem every girl in the universe - That is what fantasy is for. However, none of us have any idea of your plans for the plot, and you should not sacrifice any measure of the story, as you wish to tell it, to appease the whims of individuals. If it is quality, I will enjoy it as it is, and do not expect everything as I might happen to prefer it. Tell your story.

Megan was out of the harem for a reason the community has taught me was incorrect, she is living in another city.
Some people have pointed out that in a harem game not everyone has to live with MC, so I can easily change my mind about her without changing the 'big story', as I like her a lot.

The problem with the gotta have them all games is similar to fetishes, you will always be disappointing someone.

Not every girl is going to be everyones cup of tea plus most people dont like forced relationships so everyone has to been optional.

While i am happy to hear that a lot of people Megan and she might be getting promoted to full LI at the end of the day ypu still need to make the gamenthat makes you happy and aligns with your wants. So if promoting side girls to full harem members is what you want to do then go for, but if it isnt dont worry about it.

Some of my favourite porn VNs of all time are solo love interest games where you literally can only have one girl or there is only one love interest. What makes a game great and enjoyable is the effort put into the writing which you are doing a amqzing job at.

Also if you are implying that Saira is coming back just after the first batch of girls. I cant wait to see the cat fight between her and Eileen.

Brace yourselves for the Saira/Eileen clash

Just kidding, they will hate each other at first sight but will remain 'civil'. At least while MC is there.

 

[voyeurkind]

Megan was out of the harem for a reason the community has taught me was incorrect, she is living in another city.
Some people have pointed out that in a harem game not everyone has to live with MC, so I can easily change my mind about her without changing the 'big story', as I like her a lot.

It's a rule: if you put a female character in the game, no matter what she looks like, there will be demand to fuck her.

Corollary: if you put a male character in a game, no matter his purpose or significance, there will be sc eams of 'NTR'!!!

 

[Tiur]

I actually really enjoy when there are side or minor girls there to let the MC have some fun early while properly establishing relationships with the main LIs.

I do, too, but if the side/minor girl is cute and nice, it makes it more likely people will grow attached to her and want her in the harem. For examples, look at Shawna and Aiko in Grandma's House. They're the first two girls, specifically meant as side characters to have early H scenes, but both interesting enough that a lot of people are disappointed they won't be in the full harem.

 

[Jove76]

It's a rule: if you put a female character in the game, no matter what she looks like, there will be demand to fuck her.

Corollary: if you put a male character in a game, no matter his purpose or significance, there will be sc eams of 'NTR'!!!

I had to laugh at the fact Jamaal is both gay AND in a wheelchair. All I could think is "Well, that is two layers of protection from the only other male in the game being perceived as a threat of NTR".

 

[Trope95]

I had to laugh at the fact Jamaal is both gay AND in a wheelchair. All I could think is "Well, that is two layers of protection from the only other male in the game being perceived as a threat of NTR".

That's one of the reasons he's gay, to avoid the NTR inquisition

 

[Xathras]

Brace yourselves for the Saira/Eileen clash
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Just kidding, they will hate each other at first sight but will remain 'civil'. At least while MC is there.

Or until the MC says "Ooo... CATFIGHT!" and they'll make a truce and beat up the MC.

 

[Kalsan]

They only appeared once, so not much content with them except for introducing the girls.
I understand what you mean, designing them (Sophie, Maddie, and Megan) as side-girls is something that I won't do if I ever write another game. Their function was to provide 'fun content' while the relationship with the 'main' girls developed, and they ended as a side note.

With Maddie, I changed my mind and she will appear in 0.6 to start her path(s), as nothing is written in stone until published.

Megan will return in 0.7 or 0.8 (0.7 concept is growing a lot bigger than I thought) and Sophie an update after that. So perhaps I can find a reason to include them in the harem, but I can't promise anything. Obviously, it isn't necessary for me to decide about it before their next appearances, as I can begin that path as planned originally and decide before the planned break up.

Megan is getting a lot more love than I thought she will, here and on other sites. As I said, nothing is written in stone.


Maddie CAN be a part of the harem. She has three paths: FemDom, MaleDom, and Romance if you peeped on Martha. Only romance if you didn't. Only the Romance path assures her in the harem. The other two don't bar her from entering the harem, but there should be some other coincidences.

About Saira, there are a couple of messages some time ago, but to recap:
* She's on the main menu image!
* Her last lines were
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* There's a student in the first batch that will arrive later than the other four.
* That student paid for a double room for herself and asked for it to be painted yellow.

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* But, in the main menu image, they seem friendly, so that relationship should develop

Come on man don't do that, if you are going to add a girl into the game and make her lewdable and give her screen time make her a part of the harem. What is the point of having a relationship with any of the "side girls" if they don't go to a satisfactory point? What is the incentive for us to pursue a one time thing? Or made them use screen time that could be use to persue real relationships? I'm personally more into ownership than rental if you get what I mean. Don't fall into the trap of adding "side girls" just for the quick sex or to be fillers. And about Megan, I don't know call me crazy but the easiest solution would be making her move to the MC city right? It isn't like the character has mind of her own you are the one writing it. It actually could be materially for something quite romantic, they start dating but get to see each other very little but she love him so much and want to make things work that she move to his town.

 

[Robert Monotoli]

Or until the MC says "Ooo... CATFIGHT!" and they'll make a truce and beat up the MC.

What a plot twist!

 

[Trope95]

Or until the MC says "Ooo... CATFIGHT!" and they'll make a truce and beat up the MC.

And the rest of the girls join the beating for all the times they caught MC with another girl. If that happens at the end of the game, how big can the queue get?

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Come on man don't do that, if you are going to add a girl into the game and make her lewdable and give her screen time make her a part of the harem. What is the point of having a relationship with any of the "side girls" if they don't go to a satisfactory point? What is the incentive for us to pursue a one time thing? Or made them use screen time that could be use to persue real relationships? I'm personally more into ownership than rental if you get what I mean. Don't fall into the trap of adding "side girls" just for the quick sex or to be fillers. And about Megan, I don't know call me crazy but the easiest solution would be making her move to the MC city right? It isn't like the character has mind of her own you are the one writing it. It actually could be materially for something quite romantic, they start dating but get to see each other very little but she love him so much and want to make things work that she move to his town.

As I've said, I'm thinking about a change in Megan's role.
By the way, she's very angry with you for saying she doesn't have a mind of her own. She's whispering in my ear right now saying 'Kill his favorite girl and give me more screen time!'
Talking seriously, writing some characters is sometimes difficult, as I try to immerse myself in their way of thinking. Even my mood changes after writing an especially emotional scene.

 

[sakuyas_mmaster]

For examples, look at Shawna and Aiko in Grandma's House. They're the first two girls, specifically meant as side characters to have early H scenes, but both interesting enough that a lot of people are disappointed they won't be in the full harem.

I didn't like how that dev put in Aiko and I don't even remember a Shawna. Aiko has far too much dialog for a sidegirl. Also her character, both in looks and behavior are cringy to me. I hate it when devs sneak in girls that look and behave like they're 10. This loli shit is not sexy.