VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.27.3 S3 Ch.7] [Tropecita Games]

[bobbo69]

besides not liking the game, how are you doing ? long time not read each other ! hope you are well, my friend
abrazo !

I'm really good, nice to hear from you bro, hope Brian's doing good too.

 

[The.World.According.To.Me]

Trying to avoid another breast size argument had one in another thread. But I am curious who you think needs smaller boobs outside of betty?

When i made the original comment about better if the LIs got a reduction due to back pain it was just a comment in jest and in response to an old comment about the girls needing bigger breasts. All breasts need love, it's just anything over a mid C loses hotness points on my "visual" rating scale, which can however, be re-obtained (or lost) through personality and character (IG & IRL)

All the girls are beautiful as they are, however, I do prefer them on the smaller side, so I posted in their defense. I should have known better, really, but it was not meant to start the age-old war of who is better *cough*causeweallknowsmallbreastsruletheworld*cough*cough*. I mean it's not like I was proposing more hand holding or something else scandalous.

None of the girls needs to be changed or reduced

 

[Pax Draconis]

I'm fine with HS games, I can't do 2D AVNs.

With a couple of exceptions I agree. What I really can't stand is koikatsu. It looks like pseudo-anime mixed with stick figures to me.


As for the large breasts/small breasts controversy, I personally value proportion over size. IMAO on more petite women, apples look better than melons.

 

[MikesDK]

Well got to the end of part 1.

Did feel like it got a little better with all the werd kissing that was gong on so that helps a little.

MC still feels like a wet nuddle to me when it comes to the family, but i do understand hes made like that to be overly nice to every family member and never speak hes mind like normal people would, also still not a fan of him going from shy about being nude to an all out exhibitionist showing hes dick like its nothing in just a few days and without player controle, proberly due to me not being into exhibitionist stuff, i would prefere him to talk to people, like the granny issue and not start taking hes clothes off, but alot comes down to personal taste and fetishes.

One thing i hated and i know most proberly dosent, but changing Scarlett into what to me looked like a rich bitch type girl look wise on the date night (and going forward) really put me off since she no longer looked like the girl i loved to see doing the hole first part, with the hair covering a bit of her eyes giving her that shy personalty and look.
i totaly understand its to show her making progress and growing up and all that shit but to me game lost that one shy cute looking girl who was proberly my personal favorit and gained just another run of the mill standard looking short haired girl like so many others, theres just nothing special about her anymore which annoyed me alot, with her new looks i would proberly have turned her down just like i did with Lisa but with Lisa its proberly more about the first impression she left which is to hard to change, just rememeber this is a personal taste thing not ment as a complaint against the game, i just dident like it.
And how i would have loved to tell Scarlett i hated her new look instend of again being overly nice

I did like how Emmas new look turned out and think she looks better, but her looks wasent tied to her personalty like Scarletts so dosent matter as much.

Also wasent a fan of the virgin scenes i saw, i guess i do kinda have a virgin fetish and like to see a realistic scene with blood and everything, so for 2 not having a hymen (which i know is normal but this is still a novel a game, so they just feel like any nomal sex scene without one, just like any other none virgin girl) and 2 that did wth no blood even though it shows a close up with one of them feels worng, so for the hardcore virgin fans they will proberly be a bit disapointed.

Going to play part 2 now see how it goes, not sure what i think about the hole clone thing that part one ended with but lets see once i get cought up wth part 2, i am playing the family version with patch thing not the clone stuff.

Still like alot of things in the game and i think its perfectly normal that you hate some things and love others, the only question is which one theres more off

 

[Trope95]

My take on breast size (with approximate examples and discarding the double letters, DD, GG...)
A-wesome although a bit scarce. Debbie.
B-eing this amazing, I have no complaints. Scarlett.
C-an I have a taste? Most of the girls
D-essert. Apply the above sentence. Norah.
E-nticing... but can you stop growing?. I don't know if Saira belongs here or to DD.
G-ood, but stop here, please. Betty.
H-ave you visited your doctor about your back issues? I wouldn't turn you down because of your breast size, I even can act as a hands-bra, but you are beyond my type.

Thanks for the reply.

I get that you dont controel their fantasies but you also just said its not her fantasy she just think its MCs fantasy and thats why she says it at the game and seeing him turn down 2 girls kissing shouldent that make her aware that its proberly not MCs thing, or maybe shes not that smart haha
But fair enough man, i really just wanted to ask about the image since it shouldent show her kissing another girl if shes 100% stright so that image really did make me wonder about her, hope you will get that fixed this time even if it is a small thing for the overall game

Scarlett's fantasy is to get her perceived MC's fantasies done (being involved in them, obviously). At that moment, the only thing the MC did was not teach them together, and Scarlett thinks that it was because he didn't want to kiss his cousin. If she thought the MC's fantasy had anything to do with a girl and a horse, her fantasy would have involved a horse.

At that moment you still haven't blocked lesbian content, so that image is correct story and playthrough-wise. My mistake was to add that image without knowing the level of lesbian haters in this forum that would see a lesbian relationship in two girls saying "hello" to each other. You can't know how much development time I lost answering questions about that image or the kissing lessons.

I think my biggest issue is that everything is just sooo sugar sweet, just to much of a young girls teen romance novel with 0 drama or guess i should say 0 action when small dramas happens, so i never get to say what i really want to say to the characters, like being mad at the mother for what she did....

Fortunately, the MC has his own personality and you can take some of his choices, but not change his behavior upside down. The MC is an extremely caring person for his family. He doesn't get mad if he can talk things out. He will get mad when the moment comes and he should defend his family (regardless of paths). He won't ever impose his views (besides the "no other guys" rule, and he regrets it because it's not needed) on women.

You think that's a "wet noodle" (nudle in your words) personality. I think it's a civilized one.

I really hate the kissing everybody thing too. It felt really weird for girls that I had turned down to suddenly be kissing them. I spoke to Trope at the time and he assured me it wouldn't go on for very long.

Yesterday I wrote the scene that ends it all.

I wish i had more free time, because I'd love to help with some of the syntax errors and such. Obviously English isn't your first language but you've done a really great job in trying to localize it. But the way some of the conversations flow and words that are used just isn't correct. Again really well done, just not accurate always.

Also, are you planning on there being like a small time hop to get to the Fall semester or

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I ask because I imagine some things will have settled for the rest of the summer semester after all that's happened up till now. And I can't imagine going through another 30+ days without dev time taking 10 years LOL!

I work with some American proofreaders (sagerock820 being the main one) who are doing an amazing job. He got the game when it already had six chapters, so the proofreading of the first chapters wasn't as good as it should be.

There will be a time skip from August to February (they are still in 2023) before the Autumn semester during the Aruba trip.
It took 2 years and 4 months to write 21 days, so your 10 years comparison wasn't too wrong

I love that you guys KNOW that some of the stuff is a bit Cliche and that you essentially have the characters break the 4th wall and say things are cliche and such. Adds a good bit of humor to the game while at the same time saying "yeah yeah, we know this trope has been done/said" but keeping it your own.

The problem with AVNs is that there are 19,000 (on this site). It's hard to surprise the players in every update. You can do twists, but not base the story on twists, so the clichés should be used. Also, I haven't played 19,000 games (not even 19), so whatever I come up with has a high chance of having been used previously in another game (or a lot of games), becoming cliches without me being aware of it. How they are used, though, is what changes how players see the tropes. For example, the MC didn't catch any of the girls in the shower, but he was caught a lot of times. Doing it once would be cliche. Doing it multiple times becomes a running joke.

The mother scene dosent feel importen to me, maybe at a later time i have no clue since im not there yet and first time playing it, it feels like a pure mother scene that has no place to be there when your not on her route, no one should touch an MCs dick without being on her route and if such thing happens MC should be mad and make damn sure it dosent happen again no matter if the mother gets a little uncomfortable, not saying he should blow up but he should set her stright right away, thats better then it happening again or giving her falsh hope for things that will never happen, now that would be a considerate human being, like MC thinks to himself, hes tierd of never talking about things but even so he still dosent talk or put things right he just says sorry.....not much of a talk.

And to me he does have 0 backbone and feels like a wet nuddle when he cant get mad or even talk seriously about something that he dosent want and when MC instend says sorry? hes even worse then a wet nuddle, you might look at it diffent but thats life we dont all see things the same way.

Also it wasent a subconsciously thing she did, she desided to touch hes dick multiple times after waking up knowing MC wouldent want it since she thinks hes against incest at that time which makes it even more worng for her to do it, so ofcause she should be told so.

Also MC went from being concerned about nudity to being fine with it out of nowhere, he went from putting on hes pants knowing hes mother would walk in to check on him to nude in a hearth beat, which also dident make any kind of sense in my eyes when not on her route.

So yes i hated that part and hate the wet nuddle MC personalty, but i love the choices, some of the other girls and the stories with them and i love incest games just not mother/son, but sister/daughter.

The bold part is what shows a difference between you and the MC. He won't ever make uncomfortable any of his girls (and with "his" I'm talking people he loves, not people he fucks). At the end of that day, without making her uncomfortable, the issue is solved, so his system is better than yours when it comes to peaceful coexistence with the girls he's not in a relationship.

I guess your definition of backbone is to impose your views on women. Mine is to be able to care, defend, and make the girls feel good even if they are rejected. Or, at least, not making them feel bad.

My thoughts from this update

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It will be the last update focused on the DnD game, don't worry. We won't see the characters until the epilogue.

I dont mind spoilers about the mother since i couldent care less about her when it comes to sexual relationships, but i sure hope there wont be more of the mother or Nora in any sexual ways or them playing with hes dick, i turned both down for a reason and thats due to not wanting to have any sexual things with them and i hope thats also why you can turn them down permanently or it wouldent make sense, it would most defently not be something i would expect in the future since game as i see it is not about forced stuff.
On a side note, i dont hate Martha in any way so its not like i mind MC and her having a good mother/son relationship, thats perfectly fine, just not sexual and same goes for Nora for that matter

What Dr. meant about the spoilers isn't just about Martha, but about family dynamics and the MC's opinion about them. Some actions are hard to understand when they happen because the reader doesn't have all the information (on purpose). The family dynamics are still evolving in 0.20 and that scene was in 0.7, so any spoiler should be a long one explaining every step of the evolution.

One thing i hated and i know most proberly dosent, but changing Scarlett into what to me looked like a rich bitch type girl look wise on the date night (and going forward) really put me off since she no longer looked like the girl i loved to see doing the hole first part, with the hair covering a bit of her eyes giving her that shy personalty and look.
i totaly understand its to show her making progress and growing up and all that shit but to me game lost that one shy cute looking girl who was proberly my personal favorit and gained just another run of the mill standard looking short haired girl like so many others, theres just nothing special about her anymore which annoyed me alot, with her new looks i would proberly have turned her down just like i did with Lisa but with Lisa its proberly more about the first impression she left which is to hard to change, just rememeber this is a personal taste thing not ment as a complaint against the game, i just dident like it.
And how i would have loved to tell Scarlett i hated her new look instend of again being overly nice

Scarlett went through 3 hairstyle changes. You hated the last one, other players hated the first one. Not even Iberian Ham can please everyone. If you told her you hated the new hairstyle, that would mean she would return to her old one, and that would mean double-rendering every scene she's on. Who would be doing all those renders? How much would the updates be delayed for it?

You HAVEN'T turned down Lisa. You haven't had the chance to do it yet.

 

[MiltonPowers]

My take on breast size (with approximate examples and discarding the double letters, DD, GG...)
A-wesome although a bit scarce. Debbie.
B-eing this amazing, I have no complaints. Scarlett.
C-an I have a taste? Most of the girls
D-essert. Apply the above sentence. Norah.
E-nticing... but can you stop growing?. I don't know if Saira belongs here or to DD.
G-ood, but stop here, please. Betty.
H-ave you visited your doctor about your back issues? I wouldn't turn you down because of your breast size, I even can act as a hands-bra, but you are beyond my type.

Thanks again for taking the time to communicate and listen to concerns from people (many non-paying). You really are top of the pile for communication and interaction of all Devs. If I wasn't so poor, I'd love to increase your patreon money.

It really is appreciated by myself and many others.

 

[johnpouljones]

Well got to the end of part 1.

Did feel like it got a little better with all the werd kissing that was gong on so that helps a little.

MC still feels like a wet nuddle to me when it comes to the family, but i do understand hes made like that to be overly nice to every family member and never speak hes mind like normal people would, also still not a fan of him going from shy about being nude to an all out exhibitionist showing hes dick like its nothing in just a few days and without player controle, proberly due to me not being into exhibitionist stuff, i would prefere him to talk to people, like the granny issue and not start taking hes clothes off, but alot comes down to personal taste and fetishes.

One thing i hated and i know most proberly dosent, but changing Scarlett into what to me looked like a rich bitch type girl look wise on the date night (and going forward) really put me off since she no longer looked like the girl i loved to see doing the hole first part, with the hair covering a bit of her eyes giving her that shy personalty and look.
i totaly understand its to show her making progress and growing up and all that shit but to me game lost that one shy cute looking girl who was proberly my personal favorit and gained just another run of the mill standard looking short haired girl like so many others, theres just nothing special about her anymore which annoyed me alot, with her new looks i would proberly have turned her down just like i did with Lisa but with Lisa its proberly more about the first impression she left which is to hard to change, just rememeber this is a personal taste thing not ment as a complaint against the game, i just dident like it.
And how i would have loved to tell Scarlett i hated her new look instend of again being overly nice

I did like how Emmas new look turned out and think she looks better, but her looks wasent tied to her personalty like Scarletts so dosent matter as much.

Also wasent a fan of the virgin scenes i saw, i guess i do kinda have a virgin fetish and like to see a realistic scene with blood and everything, so for 2 not having a hymen (which i know is normal but this is still a novel a game, so they just feel like any nomal sex scene without one, just like any other none virgin girl) and 2 that did wth no blood even though it shows a close up with one of them feels worng, so for the hardcore virgin fans they will proberly be a bit disapointed.

Going to play part 2 now see how it goes, not sure what i think about the hole clone thing that part one ended with but lets see once i get cought up wth part 2, i am playing the family version with patch thing not the clone stuff.

Still like alot of things in the game and i think its perfectly normal that you hate some things and love others, the only question is which one theres more off

I don't understand your objections a bit. Kissing is a normal sign of affection in the family. I always kiss my now adult daughter hello. Just like I did when she was still a child.
As for Scarlett, know that she can't look the same all the time. You can go to university in old jeans, but you wear something different to a cool place for a date. Some fancy dress. and, of course, makeup. Then you look different.
She's the girl next door in jeans. In the opera, she is a completely different person. Lady.

 

[MiltonPowers]

I don't understand your objections a bit. Kissing is a normal sign of affection in the family. I always kiss my now adult daughter hello. Just like I did when she was still a child.

It's a cultural thing, some kiss all the family on the lips. Some don't kiss at all.
Personally, I kiss my 3 adult daughters and all female relatives when I greet them, but it's on the cheek, and they kiss my cheek.

 

[MikesDK]

Scarlett's fantasy is to get her perceived MC's fantasies done (being involved in them, obviously). At that moment, the only thing the MC did was not teach them together, and Scarlett thinks that it was because he didn't want to kiss his cousin. If she thought the MC's fantasy had anything to do with a girl and a horse, her fantasy would have involved a horse.

At that moment you still haven't blocked lesbian content, so that image is correct story and playthrough-wise. My mistake was to add that image without knowing the level of lesbian haters in this forum that would see a lesbian relationship in two girls saying "hello" to each other. You can't know how much development time I lost answering questions about that image or the kissing lessons.

Oh i know you have had a shitload of posts about that image, i searched on Scarlett lesbian on f95 and saw all the posts back from 2022 where you also said image would be changed to her not kissng another girl in her fantasy, since if thats part of her fantasy its also about lesbian not just being in a 3-some with MC which can be done without lesbian/bi-sexual stuff.

Fortunately, the MC has his own personality and you can take some of his choices, but not change his behavior upside down. The MC is an extremely caring person for his family. He doesn't get mad if he can talk things out. He will get mad when the moment comes and he should defend his family (regardless of paths). He won't ever impose his views (besides the "no other guys" rule, and he regrets it because it's not needed) on women.

You think that's a "wet noodle" (nudle in your words) personality. I think it's a civilized one.

Like i said in my post i think hes a wet nuddle when it comes to hes family.

You say he wont get mad when talking to hes family and thats totaly fine and not an isssue, my issue is he dosent talk to hes family in so many cases, he keeps it insde himself which is not healthy and wont help anyone not him not hes family.
Like the mother/dick issue, MC should talk to her and say its not ok but hes the one saying sorry for the mothers worng doings and thats not talking thats being a wet nuddle keeping it bottled up inside of him self.

To me the civilized thing to do would be to talk with the family instend of keeping it all inside, same with the granny about the nude issue, he should talk to her again instend of talking off hes clothes its just to weird for me perosnaly, in most familys talking is the most importen thing and i dont see MC doing that, he just tries to make sure everyone is happy constantly so he keeps quiet and never talk about anything serious issues and i just cant see how that can ever be good for anyone.

This is just my views and just puttng them out there, not trying to make it into a huge discusion and it dosent mean game overall is bad or anything either.

The bold part is what shows a difference between you and the MC. He won't ever make uncomfortable any of his girls (and with "his" I'm talking people he loves, not people he fucks). At the end of that day, without making her uncomfortable, the issue is solved, so his system is better than yours when it comes to peaceful coexistence with the girls he's not in a relationship.

I guess your definition of backbone is to impose your views on women. Mine is to be able to care, defend, and make the girls feel good even if they are rejected. Or, at least, not making them feel bad.

I can respect thats your way of seeing it, but i dont share that view.

If MC is so scared of making anyone uncomfortable that he never talks about things, even if its a serious issue that can only hurt him and everyone around him in the long run, its just not healthy not talking about things, i think most people would agree on that and.
It also feels a bit weird that anyone can make MC uncomfortable and thats fine, but the other way around is not allowed, which makes MC feel more like a slave to everyone only there to please them and make them happy without ever thinking about him self, in other words a wet nuddle family wise, just remember this is just how i feel about it and not trying to make it into a big deal, it is what it is and im not trying to change your views and you proberly couldent change mine either

Scarlett went through 3 hairstyle changes. You hated the last one, other players hated the first one. Not even Iberian Ham can please everyone. If you told her you hated the new hairstyle, that would mean she would return to her old one, and that would mean double-rendering every scene she's on. Who would be doing all those renders? How much would the updates be delayed for it?

You HAVEN'T turned down Lisa. You haven't had the chance to do it yet.

Like i said its a personal thing, its just when you fall for a girl with one look then changing her so much that she no longer look like the same girl is really stupid in my eyes, i prefere not to change them at all.
And like i said can see your side where you want to show them making progress in some ways and growning up, but that dosent mean i have to like it and to me having nothing but 50 girls all looking and acting the same is bland, so losing the one shy girl in game hurts.

Well i have in a way turnws Lisa down atleast thats what game told me i was doing when getting minus points with her, it told me that if you dont gain enough + points her route will not be opened, so in that way ive turned her down right from the start.

 

[JeJuice]

It will be the last update focused on the DnD game, don't worry. We won't see the characters until the epilogue.

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[johnpouljones]

Like i said its a personal thing, its just when you fall for a girl with one look then changing her so much that she no longer look like the same girl is really stupid in my eyes, i prefere not to change them at all.

I think your understanding "with one look" means you fall in love with her appearance. Then, of course, you stop her from making any changes. After all, she must always look the same as it did in that first moment. Inside she grows and changes, outside she has no right. Is this a good attitude?

 

[MikesDK]

I don't understand your objections a bit. Kissing is a normal sign of affection in the family. I always kiss my now adult daughter hello. Just like I did when she was still a child.
As for Scarlett, know that she can't look the same all the time. You can go to university in old jeans, but you wear something different to a cool place for a date. Some fancy dress. and, of course, makeup. Then you look different.
She's the girl next door in jeans. In the opera, he is a completely different person. Lady.

Its not just the family its everyone, ex girlfriends, people you turn down and to me and my part of the world its not a normal thing so its just weird to us, its been up multiple times in the past on the forum from alot of people.

Im totaly fine with Scarlett changing clothes and such, but her hair style was a huge part of her personalty of being the shy girl, going from that to rich bitch look i just dident iike, theres plenty of normal girls and Lisa has the rich bitch thing going as well, i like diversity in personalties and looks and Scarlett looks just like any other girl now and her shyness is pretty much removed, so to me it becomes more bland when changing the character so much and making them all to much alike.

Its a personal thing, i would prefere not to change her at all, not her hair, not her shyness, alot of the girls is still the same so changing the one girl who was diffrent from all the others into being the same as everyone is not something i like.

I think your understanding "with one look" means you fall in love with her appearance. Then, of course, you stop her from making any changes. After all, it must always look the same as it did in that first moment. Inside he grows and changes, outside he has no right. Is this a good attitude?

Ofcause i fall in love with her looks but not only that her personalty as well, we have so many girls in this one and only one shy girl with a cute haircut unlike any others, why change that one girl to be like all the others? not just looks but personalty as well.

Dont get me worng i can understand dev wants to show her growing, learning, making progress with her shyness, but dosent mean i have to like it.

 

[Dr. Mick]

My take on breast size (with approximate examples and discarding the double letters, DD, GG...)
A-wesome although a bit scarce. Debbie.
B-eing this amazing, I have no complaints. Scarlett.
C-an I have a taste? Most of the girls
D-essert. Apply the above sentence. Norah.
E-nticing... but can you stop growing?. I don't know if Saira belongs here or to DD.
G-ood, but stop here, please. Betty.
H-ave you visited your doctor about your back issues? I wouldn't turn you down because of your breast size, I even can act as a hands-bra, but you are beyond my type.

Nice.

Yesterday I wrote the scene that ends it all.

I was hoping they would just adopt it as a norm going forward, as it is in some cultures.
Especially since (most of) the relationships are out in the open now. Oh well; to each their own.

In case I haven't said it recently, this is one of my favorite visual novels. Always look forward to seeing what you have coming next.

 

[Trope95]

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Its not just the family its everyone, ex girlfriends, people you turn down and to me and my part of the world its not a normal thing so its just weird to us, its been up multiple times in the past on the forum from alot of people.

Im totaly fine with Scarlett changing clothes and such, but her hair style was a huge part of her personalty of being the shy girl, going from that to rich bitch look i just dident iike, theres plenty of normal girls and Lisa has the rich bitch thing going as well, i like diversity in personalties and looks and Scarlett looks just like any other girl now and her shyness is pretty much removed, so to me it becomes more bland when changing the character so much and making them all to much alike.

Its a personal thing, i would prefere not to change her at all, not her hair, not her shyness, alot of the girls is still the same so changing the one girl who was diffrent from all the others into being the same as everyone is not something i like.


Ofcause i fall in love with her looks but not only that her personalty as well, we have so many girls in this one and only one shy girl with a cute haircut unlike any others, why change that one girl to be like all the others? not just looks but personalty as well.

Dont get me worng i can understand dev wants to show her growing, learning, making progress with her shyness, but dosent mean i have to like it.

Who outside the family has the MC kissed?

You don't have a lot of relationships with real women who don't hide their hair, right? Women change their hairstyles for multiple reasons. One of them is because they get bored of their current one and want to change looks. Another one is because they have a special occasion or someone tells them they would look better with another hairstyle. Or because they evolve. Scarlett fits those four things. She evolved, she got bored of her hairstyle, she went to a party and later had a date, and her boyfriend told her she looked great (not for you, but for the MC). And I won't double-render every scene where she shows up. She has used five hairstyles as of 0.20. Daphne and Emma five, too. Even Debbie, Norah, and Martha have used a couple of them.

You say a lot of girls are still the same (personality-wise) they were when they first showed up? Who?
Daphne? Emma? Martha? Norah? Debbie? Erika? Alexia? Lisa? Kate? Maddie? All of them have changed in some grade.
Daphne was also shy. Debbie is still shy.

Nice.

I was hoping they would just adopt it as a norm going forward, as it is in some cultures.
Especially since (most of) the relationships are out in the open now. Oh well; to each their own.

In case I haven't said it recently, this is one of my favorite visual novels. Always look forward to seeing what you have coming next.

The kissing thing (for rejected girls) will be stopped precisely because every relationship is now in the open. The one who stops it has her reasons to do it. You'll understand it in the third (or second depending on your choices) scene in 0.21.

 

[Dr. Mick]

Its not just the family its everyone, ex girlfriends, people you turn down and to me and my part of the world its not a normal thing so its just weird to us, its been up multiple times in the past on the forum from alot of people.

Im totaly fine with Scarlett changing clothes and such, but her hair style was a huge part of her personalty of being the shy girl, going from that to rich bitch look i just dident iike, theres plenty of normal girls and Lisa has the rich bitch thing going as well, i like diversity in personalties and looks and Scarlett looks just like any other girl now and her shyness is pretty much removed, so to me it becomes more bland when changing the character so much and making them all to much alike.

Its a personal thing, i would prefere not to change her at all, not her hair, not her shyness, alot of the girls is still the same so changing the one girl who was diffrent from all the others into being the same as everyone is not something i like.


Ofcause i fall in love with her looks but not only that her personalty as well, we have so many girls in this one and only one shy girl with a cute haircut unlike any others, why change that one girl to be like all the others? not just looks but personalty as well.

Dont get me worng i can understand dev wants to show her growing, learning, making progress with her shyness, but dosent mean i have to like it.

Okay...
So, between this and previous posts, we've established that:

• You don't like family members showing affection for one another.
• If a woman you liked grows and changes something about themselves, you won't like them anymore.
• You prefer the MC to tell off his family, rather than consider their feelings, if they do something that displeases you.
• Character fantasies have to align with your own, otherwise you want them to change or not be shown.
• You've rejected multiple women already, and would have done so to more if you knew they would change.

With all that I just have two questions:
1) Who are you romancing in this harem novel?
(Besides Scarlett, who you now regret because she's no longer meek and changed her hair.)

2) With all that you seem to dislike about this title, what do you actually like about it?
(Because the only thing you've said you liked so far was in hindsight saying you were annoyed it changed.)

Frankly, from everything you've said, I don't see why you're still reading this novel. You really don't seem to enjoy it.

 

[Dr. Mick]

The kissing thing (for rejected girls) will be stopped precisely because every relationship is now in the open. The one who stops it has her reasons to do it. You'll understand it in the third (or second depending on your choices) scene in 0.21.

Ah, okay. So if I haven't rejected any of the girls then the kissing will continue? Now you have me curious who the one might be that stops.
I don't know why I'm putting this inside a spoiler bracket... my question isn't actually a spoiler; your potential answer might be.

Yeah, time for a refill...

 

[TigerWolfe]

If a woman you liked grows and changes something about themselves, you won't like them anymore.

But if women are real people and not immutable barbie dolls that means they might actually have feelings and thoughts and maybe even... *gasp* opinions!

 

[S1nsational]

Ah, okay. So if I haven't rejected any of the girls then the kissing will continue? Now you have me curious who the one might be that stops.
I don't know why I'm putting this inside a spoiler bracket... my question isn't actually a spoiler; your potential answer might be.

Yeah, time for a refill...

My guess would be Kate, Betty, or Olivia.

Kate because if you're not on her path there's no reason for her to start questioning her sexuality, and so her continuing to kiss MC when she's only attracted to girls wouldn't make a huge amount of sense.

Betty only joined in on the kissing greetings to piss off her sister, Olivia, and to get her to open up to things. That's no longer needed with all the secrets out in the open.

Oliva I can see wanting to stop being involved in the kissing if most of those continuing to do it are dating MC, it changes the context of the greetings which makes sense given how the kissing greetings were pretty simply used to cover up all the romantic kissing going on. No need to hide the lovey dovey kissing any more

 

[snakeplisskin]

Lol thats fair was just curious. I am a big boob lover and everyone opinion on size is different. So i was curious to see where you landed.

Personally i don't consider Saira or Nora to be on the busty side. Sure they are bigger than the rest of the cast but still on the small side.

Responding to this since it got a wow reaction from trope. Here is a girl with massive boobs calling Sydney Sweeney small.

Spoiler: Completely serious

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also can someone do me a faviur and post a topless pic of Nora and Saira . Need to properly compare their bust sizes to pyr my own mind at ease.

 

[blkcrow20]

Norah is D easily and Saira possibly DD.