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I have to say a couple things (sorry, they are stuck in my mind and don't want to let go):

- I'm sorry. I always get a bit too bothered when I see people classifying others by looks. Conversations don't get better or worse if the person you are talking to, is on your preferred attributes list or not. Sex is not better or worse if they are up to your standards or not. Neither here, in this Fantasy land, nor IRL.
- I'm very sorry. I can't hold back what, for me, feels extremely unfair and ultimately pointless. Boobs are great. I am not in the least attracted to males, but I bet that those that are, feel the same way about male boobs. Nipples are a load of fun. ALL of them.

It saddens me that y'all feel comfortable dressing down this or that model that purports to represent a woman, or a man, based on the looks. Yes, I am FULLY aware that this is a VISUAL medium. But, Visual doesn't automatically mean that all of them have to be attractive. In fact, I have dropped many TV-Shows and Movies, solely because the cast was ALL very beautiful people. It feels artificial, it feels surreal, it feels purposefully insulting.

When Trope95, introduced the students, I was over the moon. Here, for the first time in a AVN, someone dared to introduce non-traditional beauty. Kim, dazzled me. Kate, got me on the first joke. Debbie, oh boy... Lisa, with her perfect looks and lousy disposition. I am still in awe. Then Megan. Then Emma with her thicker waist. Betty with unapologetic age and curves. Meemaw with the wrinkles and signs of age.

Is it perfect? No. There's a lot of room to go further down this line. Not in My Dorm, maybe. But this was a good kick in the wasps nest. Trope95, took a lot of grief, because of it. Because he dared to make non-pretty women. Now, we all look at them, they are "Normal" they feel correct. Because they are.

Yet, there's still a sentiment prevailing that there's a "Perfect" shape for women. That there's a "Perfect" boob size. We haven't learned ANYTHING.

I am very sorry. This is indeed one of the most powerful triggers for me.

If you recall, I told a story couple days ago, about a teacher that I met in a nudist beach. I said she was beautiful. She was. Although, she had her left side covered in scars from a boiling water burn when she was a child. She had recovered a lot of movement, but it still affected her. She had lost her left nipple. For the first few days, she kept that side covered. The first time she showed it to me, it was to tell me the story of it. I was perfectly aware that she was scared of my reaction. The fact that we remained friends tells the rest, I think.

I also told you that I had a Maths teacher that had a face that scared everyone. Yes. She was the sole survivor of a car crash that killed her whole family. She had lost an eye, had her face covered in scars, no clue about the rest of her. She walked with a fierceness and determination that EVERYONE stepped away. Yet, she treated her students, with such tenderness and caring as if we were her children. Looks, DON'T MATTER. That teacher wasn't able to make me love Math, but she made me love HER.

Perfection, is a disease. Inflicted upon us for VERY evil purposes. You'd do well to remove it from your lives.

I am sorry if I went too far.

Peace :(
 

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I mean if you want another idea for a future scene, I have an interesting idea if you? ;)
I'm always open to ideas. A lot of minds thinking together or individually can imagine things I can't by myself.
I can't promise any idea proposed will make it into the game (perhaps I have thought of a scene for that same scenario the idea of Player A could be applied, or perhaps Player B proposed a different idea that I consider better than Player A's, or the idea would derail the story, etc.), but I promise to read and think about every idea proposed.

And remember, the average player on F95 has played tenfold the games I've played.
 

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I'm always open to ideas. A lot of minds thinking together or individually can imagine things I can't by myself.
I can't promise any idea proposed will make it into the game (perhaps I have thought of a scene for that same scenario the idea of Player A could be applied, or perhaps Player B proposed a different idea that I consider better than Player A's, or the idea would derail the story, etc.), but I promise to read and think about every idea proposed.

And remember, the average player on F95 has played tenfold the games I've played.
I'll post in spoiler, just so it might not be viewed by too many.
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This is the idea that came to my mind.
 

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I have to say a couple things (sorry, they are stuck in my mind and don't want to let go):

- I'm sorry. I always get a bit too bothered when I see people classifying others by looks. Conversations don't get better or worse if the person you are talking to, is on your preferred attributes list or not. Sex is not better or worse if they are up to your standards or not. Neither here, in this Fantasy land, nor IRL.
- I'm very sorry. I can't hold back what, for me, feels extremely unfair and ultimately pointless. Boobs are great. I am not in the least attracted to males, but I bet that those that are, feel the same way about male boobs. Nipples are a load of fun. ALL of them.

It saddens me that y'all feel comfortable dressing down this or that model that purports to represent a woman, or a man, based on the looks. Yes, I am FULLY aware that this is a VISUAL medium. But, Visual doesn't automatically mean that all of them have to be attractive. In fact, I have dropped many TV-Shows and Movies, solely because the cast was ALL very beautiful people. It feels artificial, it feels surreal, it feels purposefully insulting.

When Trope95, introduced the students, I was over the moon. Here, for the first time in a AVN, someone dared to introduce non-traditional beauty. Kim, dazzled me. Kate, got me on the first joke. Debbie, oh boy... Lisa, with her perfect looks and lousy disposition. I am still in awe. Then Megan. Then Emma with her thicker waist. Betty with unapologetic age and curves. Meemaw with the wrinkles and signs of age.

Is it perfect? No. There's a lot of room to go further down this line. Not in My Dorm, maybe. But this was a good kick in the wasps nest. Trope95, took a lot of grief, because of it. Because he dared to make non-pretty women. Now, we all look at them, they are "Normal" they feel correct. Because they are.

Yet, there's still a sentiment prevailing that there's a "Perfect" shape for women. That there's a "Perfect" boob size. We haven't learned ANYTHING.

I am very sorry. This is indeed one of the most powerful triggers for me.

If you recall, I told a story couple days ago, about a teacher that I met in a nudist beach. I said she was beautiful. She was. Although, she had her left side covered in scars from a boiling water burn when she was a child. She had recovered a lot of movement, but it still affected her. She had lost her left nipple. For the first few days, she kept that side covered. The first time she showed it to me, it was to tell me the story of it. I was perfectly aware that she was scared of my reaction. The fact that we remained friends tells the rest, I think.

I also told you that I had a Maths teacher that had a face that scared everyone. Yes. She was the sole survivor of a car crash that killed her whole family. She had lost an eye, had her face covered in scars, no clue about the rest of her. She walked with a fierceness and determination that EVERYONE stepped away. Yet, she treated her students, with such tenderness and caring as if we were her children. Looks, DON'T MATTER. That teacher wasn't able to make me love Math, but she made me love HER.

Perfection, is a disease. Inflicted upon us for VERY evil purposes. You'd do well to remove it from your lives.

I am sorry if I went too far.

Peace :(
I agree and disagree at the same time.
Perfection exists, but it means different things to everyone. My wife is perfect (except for her taste to choose husbands). But she's perfect to me. Perhaps not perfect for 99.9% of humanity, but she's perfect for the one I care about. Myself. And it doesn't have anything to do with looks.

You know how much I heard/read about Kim, Kate, Debbie, Megan, Meemaw, or Betty.
They aren't perfect in some players' eyes. Those players are right. Because they aren't perfect in THEIR eyes.
They are ugly in some players' opinion. I agree with them. Because it's THEIR opinion.
They (Kim, Kate, and Debbie) are also freaks or ugly in the eyes of the two kids who mess with them the day they arrive. And those kids are telling the truth. THEIR truth.

Are they perfect in my eyes? Absolutely. They are as perfect as Norah or Erika. Because every girl in My Dorm has imperfections (yes, even Martha), and that is what makes them perfect (and believable). Perhaps perfectness is an imperfection in itself.

There are mainstream beauty girls and other women who don't belong to that category but, fortunately, mainstream beauty isn't an absolute truth.
 
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I agree and disagree at the same time.
Perfection exists, but it means different things to everyone. My wife is perfect (except for her taste to choose husbands). But she's perfect to me. Perhaps not perfect for 99.9% of humanity, but she's perfect for the one I care about. Myself. And it doesn't have anything with looks.

You know how much I heard/read about Kim, Kate, Debbie, Megan, Meemaw, or Betty.
They aren't perfect in some players' eyes. Those players are right. Because they aren't perfect in THEIR eyes.
They are ugly in some players' opinion. I agree with them. Because it's THEIR opinion.
They (Kim, Kate, and Debbie) are also freaks or ugly in the eyes of the two kids who mess with them the day they arrive. And those kids are telling the truth. THEIR truth.

Are they perfect in my eyes? Absolutely. They are as perfect as Norah or Erika. Because every girl in My Dorm has imperfections (yes, even Martha), and that is what makes them perfect (and believable). Perhaps perfectness is an imperfection in itself.

There are mainstream beauty girls and other women who don't belong to that category but, fortunately, mainstream beauty isn't an absolute truth.
In all that, what irks me is the use of "Perfection" has a standard.

Maybe you've watched, like I did, Female weightlifting competitions. Are any of them what you would consider "Perfect"? Yet, they are all awesome. The list can go on, with MMA Fighters. With Boxeurs. With Football players. With... I dunno... a very large number of sports and activities... that would make most of the male contingent of this post, to say they are ugly.

And what if they are? What is the problem with that? I AM ugly. The fact that people put so much weight in looking this way or that, to gain approval from people too shallow to go any further than how they look.

It is this shallowness that is the result of the disease called "Perfection". I do recommend that you make a google search for "Disease called Perfection". There's a blog post from several years ago, by a guy called Dan, that explains it much better than I am capable of. I know that he later turned into a book, but I think the original article is still available.

I still recommend that all of you work on removing "Perfection" from your thought process.

Peace :)
 

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In all that, what irks me is the use of "Perfection" has a standard.

Maybe you've watched, like I did, Female weightlifting competitions. Are any of them what you would consider "Perfect"? Yet, they are all awesome. The list can go on, with MMA Fighters. With Boxeurs. With Football players. With... I dunno... a very large number of sports and activities... that would make most of the male contingent of this post, to say they are ugly.

And what if they are? What is the problem with that? I AM ugly. The fact that people put so much weight in looking this way or that, to gain approval from people too shallow to go any further than how they look.

It is this shallowness that is the result of the disease called "Perfection". I do recommend that you make a google search for "Disease called Perfection". There's a blog post from several years ago, by a guy called Dan, that explains it much better than I am capable of. I know that he later turned into a book, but I think the original article is still available.

I still recommend that all of you work on removing "Perfection" from your thought process.

Peace :)
What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
 

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What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
When my mother brought me home from the hospital my oldest sister said, "Oh mama, he's so ugly." But, just look at me now...
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What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
Yep, exactly this. Perfection does exist, but it's different for everyone.
 
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