e6mill
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Kinda need to anyway. Steam wants DRM and GOG wants none.As a developer I already start to scream at the mere idea of having to maintain 2 versions of the same program.
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Sounds like each new platform is increasing workload exponentially, dragging you down into the mud. Where you once had a Patreon (etc) version, now you'll have 3 of them, all different. And that's assuming you don't release any special higher-tier Patreon versions.
If there's a way to have RenPy detect loaded DLL on-the-fly, you might be able to check for Steam/GoG and switch achievement processing/output code without needing separate game versions. That would drop you to just one game version total.
I'm appreciative you've gained the Steam platform, and perhaps GoG soon. But typically having any kind of game on multiple platforms impinges on development time, and it would be a loss and a shame to think you'd have less time to develop as you have in the past, due to administrative red tape.
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That's not entirely true. While Steam does have build-in DRM in the form of it's wrapper, if the developer doesn't integrate it deeply into their game all it does is provide basic protection. Especially older games might be offered on Steam but have absolutely no explicit Steam calls and yet work perfectly fine.
A good way to check if a game relies on Steam DRM is to just start it outside of Steam. If it runs without Steam it means it, at most, has it's own DRM.
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I think the platform can't be detected directly (see below my answer to Jaga).As a developer I already start to scream at the mere idea of having to maintain 2 versions of the same program.
What I would do is see if you can detect if it's the Steam or GoG version. You could just create an achievement function that you call from the rest of your code whose purpose is just to call the proper platform call. That way you won't need to maintain 2 versions. Alternatively you could just set a variable that tells you what platform it is. That would be the only difference between the two.
My idea, since the Steam achievements are set by an independent routine, is that I will only need to change the code in that routine, but I will need to keep both versions separate to avoid issues down the road (like uploading the wrong version to the wrong platform).
DRM isn't mandatory for Steam. Desirable, but not mandatory.
Ren'py can detect files in the folder. I don't know if GoG adds any files there, but Steam does. If both do, it can be something as easy as starting the achievement routine with:
If it has a Steam DLL, set the Steam achievement.
If it has a GoG DLL, set the GoG achievement.
If it has none, ignore the achievements part (useful for Patreon/SS/Free downloads).
The "good" part is that my idea for releasing on platforms is to publish the finished seasons there, so it won't need a lot of maintenance. It's not the same as if I were releasing each update there. That would be a nightmare (and I would need to pass once again through the approval process).
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Those files are added by the platform on install. As a developer you don't deal with those files directly.How is that not 2 different versions?
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And the DRM therefore being trivially easy to circumvent is just not your problem I suppose? Well, I've put my 2¢ in this discussion, time to move on.
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My take away from reading this conversation is this: I find it hilarious that Steam and GoG think anyone gives a flop about their achievement fetish.
e6mill
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People actually do. In much the same way as Pavlov's dogs loved bells I suspect.My take away from reading this conversation is this: I find it hilarious that Steam and GoG think anyone gives a flop about their achievement fetish.
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My take away from reading this conversation is this: I find it hilarious that Steam and GoG think anyone gives a flop about their achievement fetish.
motseer
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Hehe, at least the dogs got tasty treats for pushing the right lever!People actually do. In much the same way as Pavlov's dogs loved bells I suspect.
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did these scenes get mixed up? (number in parentheses makes sense to me)
in game order.....1. (3.)
game order......2. (1.)
game order........3. (2. Norah could be carring the towel under frame)
it made it seam like she took a shower...had more sex with her nephew (didn't make sense cause she wanted to get to yoga after her shower) and left again for 2nd shower in one morning
in game order.....1. (3.)
game order......2. (1.)
game order........3. (2. Norah could be carring the towel under frame)
it made it seam like she took a shower...had more sex with her nephew (didn't make sense cause she wanted to get to yoga after her shower) and left again for 2nd shower in one morning
txe320
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I don't know if it's just me, but I really don't understand what's the problem here?
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1. Was going to take the shower while the MC waited naked at the chair, 2. since someone knocked on the door before leaving, she covered the MC and herself, 3. and she got up, leaving the towel on the MC.
The order is correct.
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Thank you for clarifying what the dev intended......
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Lack of sex.....I don't know if it's just me, but I really don't understand what's the problem here?
HornyyPussy ; happy NCBD ! and watch where you put "cinamon" on !
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Are we doing the "not reading the dialogue but something is wrong" thing again?