Ren'Py My Early Life [Ep.27.02] [CeLaVie Group]

[Rintal]

Dear all
Cheers
Bob

I like your games, but sorry, forums don't work that way. This is not your personal thread, even if you created it. And people are free to say whatever they want. Express thoughts, ideas, feelings. If you don't agree with them, then that's your problem. You can argue with them if you think they are wrong or mistaken, or just pass by. But you definitely cannot tell others what they can do and write.

 

[Deleted member 1130326]

hmm, regardless, you don't have to play it, if it bothers you too much.

thankyou for insightful comment.twat.

 

[BoobiesSugoi]

I like your games, but sorry, forums don't work that way. This is not your personal thread, even if you created it. And people are free to say whatever they want. Express thoughts, ideas, feelings. If you don't agree with them, then that's your problem. You can argue with them if you think they are wrong or mistaken, or just pass by. But you definitely cannot tell others what they can do and write.

In your part of the world you are very privileged to have such rights...

Young people those days, always scream it`s MY RIGHT, without even understanding those rights.

People have this illusion that you can say what ever you want and it goes without consequences, because they feel "mighty & powerful" with their keyboard. You guys are keyboard warriors^^

You know what freedom means?

I tell you: Julian Assange !

I tell you again: Alexej Nawalny !

And now I tell you what most here are: just rude, spoiled brats who never have done anything for the society or even care about society, and their rights - what they do care about are privileges to use them on the internet as a stress relive, because their angry mom told them to clean their room and now they need to went stress and save their fragile little ego^^

 

[adrian012345]

stuck at 22:00 tv please help.
chips bought but lynn just walks away.

 

[adrian012345]

check stats -> events .. what all missing
EDIT: just looked at code and completed it

how do you complete this? 22:00 tv

 

[MRMIdAS2k]

Dear all
*yawn*
Cheers
Bob

Well fuck me for giving you pointers on making a better game that more people would enjoy playing I guess.

Keep putting out your buggy fucking pigwank then, Ignoring advice, and wondering why your downloads and ratings creep lower and lower, I'm sure those things aren't related in any way.

People critique here because they WANT your game to be better, they enjoy what you do so much they take time out from being hunched over a keyboard with tissues in hand to go "Yo, this ain't great, improving it would be good" and in my case, I gave reasons and suggestions.

if you want to sit there and go "WAAAH YOUS PLAYIN IT WRONGZ" 600 times, then be my guest, but if so many people feel that way about your game, it *might* be an idea to take that on board.

Again, the grind is FINE, I don't mind working for my filth, that's cool, however, certain objectives and goals are NOT CLEAR, and even when you're doing them correctly, progress is NOT CLEAR, which should be remedied either with NEW DIALOGUE, or CLEAR PROGRESSION IN THE EVENT VIEWER.

Take my advice or don't, it's up to you, but good devs would, and have, taken critique like this on board for the betterment of their game.

 

[Celaviegroup]

Well fuck me for giving you pointers on making a better game that more people would enjoy playing I guess.

Keep putting out your buggy fucking pigwank then, Ignoring advice, and wondering why your downloads and ratings creep lower and lower, I'm sure those things aren't related in any way.

People critique here because they WANT your game to be better, they enjoy what you do so much they take time out from being hunched over a keyboard with tissues in hand to go "Yo, this ain't great, improving it would be good" and in my case, I gave reasons and suggestions.

if you want to sit there and go "WAAAH YOUS PLAYIN IT WRONGZ" 600 times, then be my guest, but if so many people feel that way about your game, it *might* be an idea to take that on board.

Again, the grind is FINE, I don't mind working for my filth, that's cool, however, certain objectives and goals are NOT CLEAR, and even when you're doing them correctly, progress is NOT CLEAR, which should be remedied either with NEW DIALOGUE, or CLEAR PROGRESSION IN THE EVENT VIEWER.

Take my advice or don't, it's up to you, but good devs would, and have, taken critique like this on board for the betterment of their game.

Hmm I do appriciate critisism - If you have followed the progress in my games you'll know that. What I really hate is the rude way you try to hand over your inputs. Things can be said in many ways - yours are indeed not respectfull and something that any dev's will ignore. I don't think that you ever had made such game - if you had - you'll know how much it require. No one can make a bug free game and especially not at the size and complexity that I have. Honestly you sound like a spoiled children that didn't got your candy last night. I do want to listen to your inputs but with no suggestion and just some rude garbage - I can't use your inputs at all.

Anyhow - have a great day

 

[Rintal]

I tell you again: Alexej Nawalny !

LOL'D!

And now I tell you what most here are: just rude, spoiled brats who never have done anything for the society or even care about society

This may be true, but it still doesn't change what I wrote.

 

[Celaviegroup]

I like your games, but sorry, forums don't work that way. This is not your personal thread, even if you created it. And people are free to say whatever they want. Express thoughts, ideas, feelings. If you don't agree with them, then that's your problem. You can argue with them if you think they are wrong or mistaken, or just pass by. But you definitely cannot tell others what they can do and write.

May I propose to read my inputs again.
First of all I agree that people are free to speak but I just suggest that - before they start to fill the forum with 'bullshit' - they need to think about the game is free for you. If you expect that it is constructive to speak in a very rude way- I can tell you - it has the opposite effect. If you go back in this tread you'll see that I always takes critisim very seriously when it has been delivered in a proper way. If critisism is delivered along with better suggestions it's even better.

 

[gopherino]

What I can see is that size of the game is not similar and some bugs have been introduced. Official public version will be released today. I advise you to play this version from beginning instead.

Why would somebody do that? A leaker who wants to damage a dev's reputation? Is there any other possible explanation for the size difference you detected which would make it more reasonable? Some failed attempt at compression???

 

[mnonyhc]

Celaviegroup
First time playing the game and getting stuck in stuff other people aren't.
Looked into the code and found a bug that was keeping me from doing event 21, one of the times Lynn tells you she wasnt using a bra set the wrong variable, and set "LynnToldBobAboutBra" so it was impossible to fix this through regular play


For people stuck in events 043, 044 or 045, like me.

This is literaly the dumbest... to get all the eve room events you have to watch her sleep 5 times in a row on the same day.
A guy clears the first few, and if they check the guide and it says just the last hours and would never realise.

 

[Rintal]

May I propose to read my inputs again.
First of all I agree that people are free to speak but I just suggest that - before they start to fill the forum with 'bullshit' - they need to think about the game is free for you. If you expect that it is constructive to speak in a very rude way- I can tell you - it has the opposite effect. If you go back in this tread you'll see that I always takes critisim very seriously when it has been delivered in a proper way. If critisism is delivered along with better suggestions it's even better.

You didn't understand me. I'm not advocating rudeness. I'm saying there's nothing you can do about it. There is no point in writing “you are playing for free,” “if you don’t like it, move on,” etc. By doing so, you will only cause even more negativity. So be chill about that. People simply express their emotions. The best way they can.

 

[Celaviegroup]

Celaviegroup
First time playing the game and getting stuck in stuff other people aren't.
Looked into the code and found a bug that was keeping me from doing event 21, one of the times Lynn tells you she wasnt using a bra set the wrong variable, and set "LynnToldBobAboutBra" so it was impossible to fix this through regular play
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For people stuck in events 043, 044 or 045, like me.

This is literaly the dumbest... to get all the eve room events you have to watch her sleep 5 times in a row on the same day.
A guy clears the first few, and if they check the guide and it says just the last hours and would never realise.

Hmm sounds weird - need to look into this. Anyhow, thanks

 

[Celaviegroup]

Why would somebody do that? A leaker who wants to damage a dev's reputation? Is there any other possible explanation for the size difference you detected which would make it more reasonable? Some failed attempt at compression???

No idea - however I have seen that before. I remember that one leaker years ago changed a lot of parameters. I have no idea why! I always say that you need to be careful when you download an unofficial release.

 

[BoobiesSugoi]

LOL'D!

This may be true, but it still doesn't change what I wrote.

It`s not my intention to change your words.

My intention is to question those words!

Your words simply made me cringe so hard that I felt the need to say something about it like a itch to scratch^^

I don`t actually expect you to understand my p-o-v.
But maybe if one in one hundred give it a try - it was not all a waste of time.

Anyways, you do you - it`s a free Pirate Ship after all.

But don`t get mad when I blow up your tasteless Grog^^

Some here live in the real world.

 

[MRMIdAS2k]

I don't think that you ever had made such game - if you had - you'll know how much it require. No one can make a bug free game and especially not at the size and complexity that I have.

I don't need to build a house to know that if the toilet floods when you turn the shower on, something is wrong.

I'm not expecting a bug free game, I'm expecting someone who can admit fault and go "ok, that part needs work, isn't clear, poorly worded" whatever it might be, and go "Right, people have said this is bad, how do I fix it" as opposed to your current attitude which seems to be "you've never made a game and weren't super highly mega polite to me, so I'm gonna keep my game as clunky and obscure as possible just to spite you"

Take the citicism or don't, I don't care, it's not my game, however, don't be surprised when month after month people come to your thread, critcising the same points over and over, that you ignored because the bad man was mean to you on the internet.

 

[Celaviegroup]

I don't need to build a house to know that if the toilet floods when you turn the shower on, something is wrong.

I'm not expecting a bug free game, I'm expecting someone who can admit fault and go "ok, that part needs work, isn't clear, poorly worded" whatever it might be, and go "Right, people have said this is bad, how do I fix it" as opposed to your current attitude which seems to be "you've never made a game and weren't super highly mega polite to me, so I'm gonna keep my game as clunky and obscure as possible just to spite you"

Take the citicism or don't, I don't care, it's not my game, however, don't be surprised when month after month people come to your thread, critcising the same points over and over, that you ignored because the bad man was mean to you on the internet.

Sorry this conversation will never lead to anything useful. Have a great day anyhow. Still wonder why you're here if you really think my game is garbage.

 

[Rintal]

My intention is to question those words!

Well, in that case, you should talk about my words, and not indulge in lengthy discussions about rights, privileges, society and other philosophical concepts.
My words are very simple: this is a forum where people express their thoughts about games. And there is not the slightest sense in requiring them to express only certain thoughts or not to express them at all. Especially if you are not a moderator of this forum.
I can't imagine which of these obvious facts could make you cringe hard.

 

[BiggusDikkus]

Dear CLV,
I like your games well enough that I play them. Sure the grind can become tedious sometimes, but it's so in real life also. The bugs are a part of any on-going program, look at Windows, it's been buggy since '94 +/- and people still pay for that (Linux rules, and I occasionally need to use it to correct problems in MS because MS's tools are sometimes inadequate) ...and Microshaft is as responsive as a zombie. At least you interact with the rabble and try to correct what you can. Ignore the rest. Remember the parable of the Lion and the Ass.
There is something I would like you [folks] to work on. It is not a showstopper nor that important, but it is noticeable to folks like me. It's the hands. They don't always look like they are actually holding ...I mean groping... the girls' curves. I am an amateur-ish photographer who prefers film, so I notice silly little details in the graphics, and a professional gadgeteer whose code was so bad my boss took that part away from me and wrote it himself. If I was better at writing code my life would probably be more organized. Alas!
Anyway, the point is, don't argue with the rabble -they do it on every thread- just listen to those who have a legitimate problem with the game and fix that and listen to those who have good ideas for they could help you solve an issue you may not know you had. Your style is your style.

 

[mnonyhc]

Celaviegroup

Chapter 3
Was looking up event 50, seems its dependent on event[36].progress but its impossible to progress looking at this code...



event[36].progress=14 will enter the " if EVENTS[36].Progress >= 13:" condition first then exit, thus all the code below is unreachable.
Going back, the babydoll and progress get set to 13 together so its impossible to reach the code to get event 50 done.

Simplest correction I can think it it should have been
EVENTS[36].Progress == 13:
EVENTS[36].Progress == 14:
else
$ EVENTS[50].SetDone() since we can raise progress to 15