Ren'Py My Futa Family [v0.11] [DuckWorm]

[geddout]

For me, I didn't like how the bigger sister seemed reserved and bashful like when she was freaking out over her butt being exposed in the library and then bam turns out she's been fucking her little sister for years. It didn't feel earned from the perspective of the VN. It's not an implausible scenario in the context of the world within the game but, the readers have been with these characters for all of five minutes and there's been character development in only certain directions (no hints to the contrary either) then we get a 180.
Yes, this seems like an obvious outcome to experienced gooners. Just look at the MC. This is yet another case of a dev not being specific enough about what kind of story he planned to tell. Or maybe he was and I just forgot over these months.

 

[Johan_0000]

honestly main reason why I would never support this devs as things stand, luckily I decided to wait a bit to make sure and I was right, according to what people are saying here, he did pull a rug and pull and is going full NTR on us. Miss me with that shit, don't want within even a lightyear of me. If only devs were more transparents, they say something is avoidable, they boom unavoidable. And for the record, if you have to option to not see it but it still canonically happens, then it's unavoidable

Naaah ain't no way man!! are you sure it's not just bc he could only progress one path during this update? Maybe if you choose another personality to lvl up we can avoid that.
But wait wdym by NTR bc smt ppl go this NTR blabla and in the end bro you didn't even get in a relationship with the girl. However honestly I kinda expected smt similar to happen in the family bc well it was hinted that they were freaky lol.Technically aren't we the one doing the NTR in this case since we came after?
Wouldn't it fall more under sharing than NTR since they are basically part of your "harem" or you are part of theirs if you go down a sub path. I still think we should be offered the choices like some games do
Honestly, I didn't play for 2 or 3 updates so I don't rly know what it's all abt.

Specially considering that Riko is not even much of a self-insert protagonist (can't rename him, not an "anon face" silhouette, pretty much no choices to customize his characterization at the start), I think that's a complete overreaction, similar to someone watching straight porn and then getting offended and complaining that it should be tagged as bisexual porn because in one shot a man's ass was visible while he was fucking a girl.

At 1st I agreed with that and was going to delete the game but the whole personality system changed things and gave the player a lot more freedom to immerse himself in the story. And Ik that's prbbly why you said at the start. I just wanted to point it out.
I think most will agree when I say that one of the biggest reasons ppl enjoy a good prologue that introduces your character well is bc it lets you immerse yourslef in that character. "You're ... , an orphan who's been bullied his entire life. It's the main reason as to why you've always like being alone more. However, you always dreamed to achieve greatnes, to show those who mocked you that you can prove them wrong blabla". Just from this I can kinda assume that I shouldn't expect to see MC being a chad from the start. I can also assume that maybe we'll have choices that could include moral/success choices. I shouldn't expect MC to be extrovert, outgoing and having some games with the girls. We'll most prbbly see him grow as the plot advances.
I, myself don't necessarily immerse 100 of me in a character I play but I always even if a little bit. I mean that's kinda why a lot of people don't play this game or another. It's bc they don't see or fantasize abt themself doing it this or that way.
Now don't get me wrong, there is the fap material category where you basically have beautiful art/renders, but rather boring plot/gameplay/choices. In this one most of the time ppl don't care who the MC is and just immerse themself in whatever character fit their psyche the most. That's even true in good plot games, that's why smt ppl have secondary paths where some kinks of theirs are fufilled but unfortunately it's not the MC doing the kink but rather he is on the receiving end.
I mean it's a pretty complex concept but I hope I was atleast a bit understandable. I don't rly know how to put word into wit myself lol

So yeah, even though sure we couldn't customize MC's name. We can still immerse in his character by knowing abt his origins how he acts, his habits... Plus you've to account for that this isn't a show, a book or whatever. It's a renpy choice based game. Last time I checked, this doesn't have the kinetic tag.
Plus it's the start of a story which will involve a lot of character development wether for MC himself or for those around him as the story evolves.
WE choose the days he goes to shcool, WE choose when to advance certain events, WE choose other things lol.

Also, it wouldn't make sense for him to have an anon face or invisible body lol. The fact that he is a femboy is obviously there to attract certain types of players. Also, since he doesn't look super manly (body hairs, manly face...) makes it a lot easier for those who wants to see him get screwed up to enjoy it. Yk like the guys who enjoy female protag games with corruption where she ends up as a cumsl$t lol. I doubt all of them immerse themselves as the protagonist in most of these cases. It's their kink seeing smn they manipulated into getting "corrupted".
Oh and b4 smn get offended for no reason, I have nothin against such players, I'm just using them as an exemple lol.

Onori x Yui delivers on the futa incest anyone would be expecting from this game's premise and introduction (ffs the very prologue of the game had Onori playfully smacking Yui's ass), sorry if it made you feel cucked or whatever but I think it is really silly to blame the dev on this one. This is the wrong place to be looking for total vanilla romance with completely "normal" relationships.

Mmmm, I completely agree with the fact that if MC isn't in a relationship with any of them it'd be weird for them to commit to him. However (generally) if smt is clearly growing between him and an LI and she still went and did smt with other ppl. Then maybe it's part of the plot and is required to move on with their relationship with MC discovering and having the option to
1- end whatever was blooming between them
2- He wants her to stop seeing other if he's not participating in the fun
3- doesn't care as long as it's a girl, sterile futa (that girl part has nothing objective though lol).
It's not rly NTR if they are just seggsbuddies.

Abt that spank Onori gave Yui. Honestly, it doesn't hint much, sure you could think, oh kinky. But a lot of games have such scenes and nothing is going on between the best firends/sisters/... Until MC often comes in and interferes in their relationship often leading to a choice similar to the one I presented above. If this was going on from even b4 MC settled in the house it'd have been better to show or even just hint at it sooner. SO that the Players would feel more as the NeToRi guy rather than the NeToraRe guy.
Apart from that Idk what ppl expected, it's obvious MC isn't the dominant type. Atleast when he's intorduced. It's heavily hinted just from his behavior that he'll be a sub and this often involves NTR. I myself was going to drop the game when I saw the personality system which gave me hope to see other paths. However, even I know that MC can't turn from a shy, bullied MC to a confident, dominant chad overnight lol. This is actually more entertaining since we'll get to see how ppl will change their behavior around him as he grows into the version we want him to be.
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I also like this guy's point so I'll include it in my reasoning :

For me, I didn't like how the bigger sister seemed reserved and bashful like when she was freaking out over her butt being exposed in the library and then bam turns out she's been fucking her little sister for years. It didn't feel earned from the perspective of the VN. It's not an implausible scenario in the context of the world within the game but, the readers have been with these characters for all of five minutes and there's been character development in only certain directions (no hints to the contrary either) then we get a 180.

Well, yk what they say be aware of the quiet ones they're often the freakiest lol. It's a trop though, having a character being comfortable doing the craziest sh1t as long it's not known lol or with a specific person
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One last thing, is we ALL KNOW HOW PPL GET WHEN IT COMES TO NTR or anything related to it. Idk if dev/s didn't play AVNs b4 but if he did I think it's a rookie mistake not to prepare the field for what's to come.


Hey man, no hate I still think you made some serious points which I agree with. I just wanted to give my opinion on some of them. Also take into account that I didn't playe the latest (2-3) updates (bc I'm kinda affraid that dev/s go only sub paths, so I'm putting the game onhold until maybe dev make an announcement or clearly sattate that there will be more than a sub path).



(feel free to correct or point out anything I said my keyboard is buggy so smt I miss letter or words. I'm also too lazy to review if anything I wrote made sense or organize it so it does lol. Sry if it ends up being non understandable lol)



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[Isometrical]

save file anyone?

 

[manscout]

For me, I didn't like how the bigger sister seemed reserved and bashful like when she was freaking out over her butt being exposed in the library and then bam turns out she's been fucking her little sister for years. It didn't feel earned from the perspective of the VN. It's not an implausible scenario in the context of the world within the game but, the readers have been with these characters for all of five minutes and there's been character development in only certain directions (no hints to the contrary either) then we get a 180.
Yes, this seems like an obvious outcome to experienced gooners. Just look at the MC. This is yet another case of a dev not being specific enough about what kind of story he planned to tell. Or maybe he was and I just forgot over these months.

The dialogue in the Onori x Yui scene states they haven't been fucking in a long while now, Onori is a horndog but Yui had been trying to change her ways into being more chaste. Presumably Yui had been successfully shutting Onori down, but the built up arousal from the embarassing scenarios that happened in the story events with the MC made her crack and let Onori push her way into them having sex again.

Idk if the dev will make it a "futa libido" thing or if Yui herself is just a bit of a "secret nympho". In either case, this scene happened in the first update that was focused on Yui, it is not like the dev went through a year's worth of updates leading on the player into thinking Yui was a pure maiden only to then change course and make her a a naughty girl. If people can't wait until a character's first update to figure out what their story will be about, then I don't know how a dev can be more "specific" about the story they want to tell without just spoiling everything.

WE choose the days he goes to shcool, WE choose when to advance certain events, WE choose other things lol.

You are actually forced to go to school every weekday.

You choose when the events advance but there is no difference if you do it earlier or later (so the argument here would be the same as saying every game is not kinetic because you always have the choice to just stop playing).

The only other choices so far were uhhhh, fluff dialogue in the prologue with aunt Suzuki, the choice to prevent the PE gym from perving on Yui (which is where the dev is planning to put the actual optional NTR stuff), and the choice of the order in which you wipe Eri down during her event (which doesn't change the final result in the slightest). Even the choice of which girl to pursue is not a free one, for instance, progressing Yui's route to get the Onori x Yui scene requires that you have already seen all the current Onori relationship scenes, presumably to avoid continuity errors such as Riko's reaction not changing regardless of when he first saw that Onori has a dick.

I'm sure the dev will eventually add at least a few actual branching choices, but so far I'm not expecting this game to be a very complex one with many meaningful choices (which is fine, I don't mind more linear games if the story is still fun, I just think some people are setting themselves up for disappointment with some pretty unfounded expectations).

As for the rest, generally I will just say that you can immerse yourself into a character, just don't blame the dev when you self-insert some expectations that go directly against what's established by the story setting and by the characters' own words.

I don't get why people are expecting a commited exclusive romantic harem dynamic around the femboi protag in the futa incest videogame to the point that they are crying NTR about the fact 2 futa sisters are fucking each other, yet here we are.

Personally when I saw a game called "my futa family" with a femboi protagonist I only really expected 2 things, futa incest and the MC will take some futa dick. Anything else is extra, so I'd reconsider complaints that effectively oppose more futa incest (complaining about the futa family having more incestual relationships) or the MC taking futa dick (I actually think there will be some scenes where the MC gets to top, I just think it is unavoidable that the MC will be bottoming for most of it and it would be a mistake to expect otherwise).

 

[Johan_0000]

Personally when I saw a game called "my futa family" with a femboi protagonist I only really expected 2 things, futa incest and the MC will take some futa dick. Anything else is extra, so I'd reconsider complaints that effectively oppose more futa incest (complaining about the futa family having more incestual relationships) or the MC taking futa dick (I actually think there will be some scenes where the MC gets to top, I just think it is unavoidable that the MC will be bottoming for most of it and it would be a mistake to expect otherwise).

I cempletely agree with you on ppl having wrong expectations. Just like you said I had 0 expectations for this game too and was ready to drop it (I always try games in case the tags or summary miss important details to me especially on such an early phase of the game).
However I'd argue that the personality system does open the way for expectations to come in. I mean you can litteraly choose what personality traits you want to lvl up... It's still early so I think options are pretty limited for now, but in the future who knows right? Plus the fact that MC can actually train and get better. In most of these type of games Mc often gets some sort of weird training routine that's only made for him to have a big butt lol. In this one it honestly seemed a lot better and actually seemed like it'd strengthen him. At some point depending on what we choose to prioritize we might even have a different sprite for MC a more buff one. EVen though I won't lie I'd prefer him to keep the shota build. There's smt hot abt such a little thing dominating lol
You can't tell me I'm wrong for having expectations when the game litteraly brings up a system where you can choose what trait you want to lvl up lol.
As for that NTR thing, I don't rly mind it. TO be honest I kinda expected it too. Plus like I alrdy said if we follow their logic since we came after they started doing this, we're technically the one doing the NTR not the other way around lol

Still, I appreciate you summarizing the whole thing for me mate






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[QuestionTime]

BSS is more-or-less "protag has a one-sided crush on a girl but never got in a relationship with her and then she dated someone else and now the protag feels cucked by it". Weird name for a niche scenario that people at some point probably ranted and argued about if it was "technically" NTR or not.

I don't think it applies to this game's story because so far Riko is too much of a pussyboi to even consider if he has romantic feelings for any of the girls he just met, for now its just a series of comedy sexual hijinks that make Riko feel embarassed.

QuestionTime thinks it counts as "player BSS" for some people because even if the protagonist of the story doesn't care, "what if the player himself developed a crush on a character that was introduced and then later discovered that character was already in a relationship with a different character?"

Specially considering that Riko is not even much of a self-insert protagonist (can't rename him, not an "anon face" silhouette, pretty much no choices to customize his characterization at the start), I think that's a complete overreaction, similar to someone watching straight porn and then getting offended and complaining that it should be tagged as bisexual porn because in one shot a man's ass was visible while he was fucking a girl.

Dude, like you said yourself earlier, this is a futa family incest with a femboi protag porn game, what the fuck are you even talking about "average joes" and what they don't like?

At some point it needs to be understood that kinkier porn scenarios and plots tacitly require more leniency from the audience, by its very essence and central fetishes this game is already a few miles past "average joe" expectations.

Onori x Yui delivers on the futa incest anyone would be expecting from this game's premise and introduction (ffs the very prologue of the game had Onori playfully smacking Yui's ass), sorry if it made anyone feel cucked or whatever but I think it is really silly to blame the dev on this one. This is the wrong place to be looking for total vanilla romance with completely "normal" and exclusive relationships (or at the very least the incest stuff should take precedence).

Well just because someone is kinky it doesn't mean they'd be into everything. Plenty of hardcore femdom games make scat, farts, piss and ntr/sharing optional because a lot of people aren't into it. But yeah this was sort of expected considering the list of planned tags. If you were looking for a traditional harem experience rather than an orgy like some people are in the thread then I think it's kinda clear they shouldn't have gotten their hopes up. Especially if you consider the planned "avoidable" ntr.

 

[QuestionTime]

Ayooo duuude, 1st thank you for making me discover the game twisted world. Like I created a whole thread just to find similar games lol Idk how I missed it.
So yeah, thank you but from what I read in the summary (correct me if I'm wrong) futas aren't the main focus in that game. SO yeah nothing surprising. I'm searching for one where they are the main focus and the only one the I know of which offer such options (dom/sub) at the present time is Final spell.


Anyway, personally I don't rly care what rendering style is used. Wether it be Daz, koikatsu and so on. As long as it's renpy and if I stretch it, a rpgm game.
And I can tell you for sure that there ARE MUCH MORE games where femboys built character take it than the othe other way around (well this one rly is strong on that shota vibe but Ig the koikatsu style complements it well). here are some : star periphery, futaisekai, small coffee, becoming a femboy and... Oh and a game just got out where it seems to be the same "degenerate university" (I may be wrong though didn't play it). SO yeah bro I tried all of them in hope of finding one where the would have an MCdom path bc smt tags don't say everything abt a game. I won't even mention how some of them are missing tags... but none of them had it (atleast when I tried them). And that man, was only the list of games where futas are the main focus. There are a lot more out there where you can play femboy built like character being mainly abt femdom and most often including some futas in them.
Like dude it's alrdy super hard finding games with femdom as the initial settings where we can make MC slowly take over. I can only count 3/4, I like to call them role reversal or domination reversal games : Estate dominate (abandoned), Karlsson's gambit, Blossom of pleasure, and maybe Twisted world from what I understood in its overview.
Now when you notice that, it's not surprising that when even the protagonist doesn't look the part (look like smn who'll dom "stereotype") it's even rarer.

So yeah I think you're wrong if you meant that in a general way. However, if you meant it only for koikatsu games then maybe you're right. Honestly I don't play remember playing many of them. But honestly I doubt it, you litteraly said : "Twisted world has a femboy protagonist that doms futas. It's rarer for it to be the opposite as far as I know especially within Koikatsu based games."

And I'm not complaining, I mean it's normal they were originally imagined with this in mind. The name is self-explanatory (femboy) lol . I just like it when dev/s offer multiple options and offer paths that contradict each other.



I understand where you're coming from but don't necessarily agree. A lot of masterpieces came to life bc the original direction changed. We wouldn't have Drangon Ball Z (which is a classic of the shonen genre who set the bar for other, arguably the best shonen or most influencial if you prefer) if not for the editor telling Toriyama that he needs to step up his game from the adventure trope OG Dragon Ball had.
Apart from that, what mainly attracted me to renpy AVN is the possibility to choose to go down a path you like. I mean that's awesome! You don't have these options when you watch a show, read a novel (some do nowadays though), manga or whatever. It's always jus you following the protagonist's journey even when you don't necessarily agree with choices he makes.
I'd say having the option to choose is arguably the best feature of such games.

Look, I'm not saying he should go all in 50/50 right from the start if he didn't plan such a path. However, he could go 85/15 at 1st and as he gets more attuned to that rythm increase the ratio step by step. The most important thing is communication and a clear respected schedule. Devlogs help a lot with that.
A lot of devs grow with their work or during their carrer in general. I don't think they should hinder their growth bc of fear. They alrdy took a big step by releasing their games. The key is to keep balance and stay organized.
The potential of this game's real and without the personality system I would've alrdy dropped (as it'd be clear it'd just be another futa on male game). I just found it so interesting and it opened so many possibilities that it hyped me.
Like, let's be honest, doing a whole set of personality stats, sets... only to keep MC a sub would be disappointing when you compare it to the potential that system has. And man, just in case I have nothing against sub players I just like it when everyone get to enjoy what they enjoy and renpy games offer this possibility.




Didn't know itch followed the same rules as patreon, I saw some ppl mentionning incest... So the only one not giving a damn is subscribestar? Also didn't play the 2 latest updates but why're ppl talking abt non avoidable NTR?






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The NTR is moreso BSS because your love interest sisters fuck without your input and given that the dev only listed "avoidable ntr" and "nts" as planned tagged people thought such content would be completely optional with the default route being more like a harem.

As for the futa on male thing I don't really consider daz games because I was moreso referring to high quality games and I don't really count them because they're uncanny. You might be right in it being mainly just true in Koikatsu although I'd say the real most common pairing is futa x woman because whenever I see the futa tag in a koikatsu vn or vns in general I think that's the most common thing with it being a side fetish and not main to the actual game. Also if the number of games required to tilt the majority seems to be single digits then I'd say both of really niche fetishes with the less common one being more so.

I was mostly thinking of two games being "fantasy opposite" and "twisted world" in this sort of subgenre where the protagonist is a femboy type character and yet the game is focused on them taking more dominant roles although fantasy opposite does have futa on male it's optional and I believe you're able to do male on futa on those optional scenes usually. For Japanese Vns I noticed there's an entire subgenre of crossdressing male goes to an all girls school but he almost always takes the dominant position which I always thought was odd because you'd assume it would be the opposite.

 

[QuestionTime]

I only really expected 2 things, futa incest...

It's funny because the dev seemingly (temporarily) removed one of the main fetishes for the game because of patreon rules and subscribestar activating his account. I wonder if he'll go back and change stuff for the subscribestar version if that gets approved.

 

[Johan_0000]

For Japanese Vns I noticed there's an entire subgenre of crossdressing male goes to an all girls school but he almost always takes the dominant position which I always thought was odd because you'd assume it would be the opposite.

Oh I see what you meant now, Oooo ok, yeah that's right there is a whole subgenre like that in japanese VNs. I think it may have originated from the fact that in eastern asian culture (to be more precise, korea, japan, china) having "feminine features" for a man is a sign of beauty and is actually quite valued. Don't ask me how they took that to a whole other lvl lol to end up with a femboy f1ck them all trope lol.
Ok hear me out, hear me out, I have a theory lol. When you play "straight AVN" or watch "straight p0rn" or whatever and you see a muscled man and his hairy ass looking at you dead in the eyes lol, you're telling me you don't get that uggh feeling lol. I mean some don't and it's totally ok, to each their own Ig.
Personally I get turned off by that, that's kinda why my favorite genre ever is Futa-on-female. Now if you have the same thing happening but with the man being a lot more "girly" it's a lot more watchable to me as I don't get that ick reflex I usually get lol.
In japan all girl schools are a lot more common than in the west. So authors prbbly thought it's a nice niche for a kink. Combine that with the fact that androgynous feature are a common beauty standard there satisfying both the male and female audiences.
But honestly no, I wouldn't expect the opposite, I mean it's basically a young horny boy going to an all girl school where there youg horny girls too. Now if maybe he wasn't lucky and encoutered a dominant girl right from the start who would use his inexperience and lack of confidence to dom him, that would be possible. The thing is, in most cases they are both inexperienced and are both discovering things together plus yk how exagerated everything is in japanese's p0rn industry lol.
Ofc he'd get to dom with maybe with 1-2 characters trying to blackmail him b4 they end up being f1cked silly and changing their mind.
Don't get me wring though it does happen too.
However, if it was a young boy going to an all futa school and he ends up domming there. Now THAT, would be a surprise

Unfortunately, most of them aren't in renpy so I don't bother playing them (without mentionning those who don't have a translation). That trope does exist but honestly most of the time when the game has futa as the main kink, or alteast with them taking as much space as girls. The dev almost always make them top without it being a choice.
Most of those follow this logic "if you are bigger, you're more dominant" lol. While I prefer the psychological side of things where the player would play on the fact that she's bigger to dominate her...
I mean it is to be expected but I love it when devs do the unexpected. I think this may be bc I like role reversal. And what's hotter than dominating a futa's whose penis is 3x your size lol.


Also duude wth is up with the size of his thing in fantasy opposite lol. How does his heart even pump enough blood for him to survive while he's hard lol


I don't think it rly counts as a femboy built MC but try Your place if you didn't alrdy, the plot's rly interesting and the potential is there. This what I mean by games with futa as a main kink or atleast them taking as much space as girls. This game perfectly portrays that.






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[Movikx]

story looking great, keep going without rushing H scenes, nice teasing and im sure this will be a great game

 

[QuestionTime]

Oh I see what you meant now, Oooo ok, yeah that's right there is a whole subgenre like that in japanese VNs. I think it may have originated from the fact that in eastern asian culture (to be more precise, korea, japan, china) having "feminine features" for a man is a sign of beauty and is actually quite valued. Don't ask me how they took that to a whole other lvl lol to end up with a femboy f1ck them all trope lol.
Ok hear me out, hear me out, I have a theory lol. When you play "straight AVN" or watch "straight p0rn" or whatever and you see a muscled man and his hairy ass looking at you dead in the eyes lol, you're telling me you don't get that uggh feeling lol. I mean some don't and it's totally ok, to each their own Ig.
Personally I get turned off by that, that's kinda why my favorite genre ever is Futa-on-female. Now if you have the same thing happening but with the man being a lot more "girly" it's a lot more watchable to me as I don't get that ick reflex I usually get lol.
In japan all girl schools are a lot more common than in the west. So authors prbbly thought it's a nice niche for a kink. Combine that with the fact that androgynous feature are a common beauty standard there satisfying both the male and female audiences.
But honestly no, I wouldn't expect the opposite, I mean it's basically a young horny boy going to an all girl school where there youg horny girls too. Now if maybe he wasn't lucky and encoutered a dominant girl right from the start who would use his inexperience and lack of confidence to dom him, that would be possible. The thing is, in most cases they are both inexperienced and are both discovering things together plus yk how exagerated everything is in japanese's p0rn industry lol.
Ofc he'd get to dom with maybe with 1-2 characters trying to blackmail him b4 they end up being f1cked silly and changing their mind.
Don't get me wring though it does happen too.
However, if it was a young boy going to an all futa school and he ends up domming there. Now THAT, would be a surprise

Unfortunately, most of them aren't in renpy so I don't bother playing them (without mentionning those who don't have a translation). That trope does exist but honestly most of the time when the game has futa as the main kink, or alteast with them taking as much space as girls. The dev almost always make them top without it being a choice.
Most of those follow this logic "if you are bigger, you're more dominant" lol. While I prefer the psychological side of things where the player would play on the fact that she's bigger to dominate her...
I mean it is to be expected but I love it when devs do the unexpected. I think this may be bc I like role reversal. And what's hotter than dominating a futa's whose penis is 3x your size lol.


Also duude wth is up with the size of his thing in fantasy opposite lol. How does his heart even pump enough blood for him to survive while he's hard lol


I don't think it rly counts as a femboy built MC but try Your place if you didn't alrdy, the plot's rly interesting and the potential is there. This what I mean by games with futa as a main kink or atleast them taking as much space as girls. This game perfectly portrays that.






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Fantasy opposite dick size

Yeah it's definitely a fetish lmao. I remember playing this regular straight harem angel VN but in the first sex scene the protagonist had a dick that looked to be like 15 inches and I just laughed out loud and couldn't take it seriously.

Straight VN

If you're playing a straight VNs you're self inserting as the dude and completely ignoring him in sex scenes or just envisioning it as your body. I don't really think your explanation makes much sense because straight dudes aren't focusing on the manas an individual in those scenes at all and focusing on the dude pushes it towards bisexuality which you'd think would make it really niche and not a seemingly popular subgenre. As for "young horny boy goes to all girl school" you can easily write that without crossdressing and I'm pretty sure there's a quite a few of those VNs.

Anyways we're probably veering too far off topic.

 

[asosr]

good game potential to be goated

 

[Johan_0000]

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[HighFrutoseCornSoup]

For me, I didn't like how the bigger sister seemed reserved and bashful like when she was freaking out over her butt being exposed in the library and then bam turns out she's been fucking her little sister for years. It didn't feel earned from the perspective of the VN. It's not an implausible scenario in the context of the world within the game but, the readers have been with these characters for all of five minutes and there's been character development in only certain directions (no hints to the contrary either) then we get a 180.
Yes, this seems like an obvious outcome to experienced gooners. Just look at the MC. This is yet another case of a dev not being specific enough about what kind of story he planned to tell. Or maybe he was and I just forgot over these months.

pretty much my reaction, don't really mind if the girls hook up with each other but going from onori and MC playing in the river or eri playing video games naked to Yui straight up doing the deed with her little sister in the middle of the night is some massive whiplash

 

[SoleProprieter]

Damn, I really liked the way the story is going so far. I hope the dev doesn't completely rewrite Yui's stuff because some players took an obvious futa incest orgy game as a wholesome romance vn.

 

[Icy Frost]

Damn, I really liked the way the story is going so far. I hope the dev doesn't completely rewrite Yui's stuff because some players took an obvious futa incest orgy game as a wholesome romance vn.

I Hope/would appreciate the rewrite since he did say stuff was going to be optional

 

[Majordeathwish]

I Hope/would appreciate the rewrite since he did say stuff was going to be optional

Yeah it's bs that it's not optional. You spend all this time learning about the characters and becoming attached to them then boom turns out they were all fucking the whole time and they are all masters at keeping the secret until they inexplicably fuck up and the mc finds out. Not only should it be optional, in the context of the story it makes no sense.

 

[SoleProprieter]

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Except why would it be optional, it's an action completely out of the player characters control. It's an interaction between two other characters without your input, both of whom you have basically just met. Taking this scene as ntr is just weird, you still barely know them. Those two have had years to develop their relationship. You have barely known them a month. It is also obvious that they had stopped having sex for a while, as the older sister was trying to better herself. However, her constant sexual gaffs with Riko caused her to get pent up, and Yui exploited that, knowing her sisters weaknesses. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention to the way the characters interact, so much so that I was expecting some kind of sexual interaction between the two.

If people's problem is just tags, fine, add NTR, BSS, Sharing, whatever. Just don't rewrite the story because some people can't handle a girl they aren't even involved with romantically having a prior relationship.

 

[Majordeathwish]

Except why would it be optional, it's an action completely out of the player characters control. It's an interaction between two other characters without your input, both of whom you have basically just met. Taking this scene as ntr is just weird, you still barely know them. Those two have had years to develop their relationship. You have barely known them a month. It is also obvious that they had stopped having sex for a while, as the older sister was trying to better herself. However, her constant sexual gaffs with Riko caused her to get pent up, and Yui exploited that, knowing her sisters weaknesses. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention to the way the characters interact, so much so that I was expecting some kind of sexual interaction between the two.

If people's problem is just tags, fine, add NTR, BSS, Sharing, whatever. Just don't rewrite the story because some people can't handle a girl they aren't even involved with romantically having a prior relationship.

It's not the tags it's the content of the story. The inclusion of the personality mechanics imply that there will be different routes where events can go down differently, which makes this event make no sense so early in the story as it should be an event down a submissive or voyeur route. I have no problem with the event if it was in it's own route which seems to be the way is going to go, but having it this soon in the story feels like a massive blunder on the devs part. It could totally be reworked into the beginning of a submissive route but you would have to make a dominant route as well. Having the first sex scene in the game not include the main character is a huge smoke signal that the game will continue to trend down this path, which is fine, just don't have the personality system allude to having a completely different set of events that change based on what you spec into.

 

[SoleProprieter]

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I actually agree with you there. I'm kind of hoping there are few routes, because in my experience every time an indie dev attempts a story with multiple highly different routes, they end up abandoning the project (Especially if it's their first major project). My hope was that the personality page thing was mostly a riff on videogame stuff, and that there wouldn't really end up being actual routes, just one main story line with choosable love interests that is otherwise mostly fixed. 8 fully fleshed out love interests with multiple routes based on theme as well feels like a hell of a lot to do for a first attempt.

I agree though, if he does end up pushing for the multiple route angle, that interaction should take place down one of them, not in the prologue.