Lex Thorson

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Thank you for sharing. I stepped away from this game feeling a similar way and wanted to know more about its development along with the press surrounding its release. I read the article you referenced and agree with the quote. I was challenged to investigate my own emotions and feelings dredged up by the subject matter within the game. Aside for pure and impure, I believe ego and ownership are themes overlooked or not discussed enough about NTR/S games. Within romantic relationships, marriage or otherwise, there is an underline belief of ownership and exclusivity of the partners. We are all people with agency. Thoughts, fears, hopes, and dreams that exist despite the type of relationship we are in. You never really possess anyone, nor should you. Hopefully they care for, and like you enough to DECIDE to stay with you. Law of marriage doesn't change this fact, in my opinion. I fight with the subject matter because I self-insert as the male protagonist and think, "How could she do this to me?" Naturally (for me). But why? Ego and ownership... These are two sides of the same coin in my opinion. Something we can not do away with. Something that isn't uniquely masculine. I don't want to delve deeper (or dig a deeper hole) than I already have but I believe NTR/S tugs at the ego and owner within males, both stoking it and bruising it simultaneously. Our egos must accept that the only things we own are our emotions and decisions.

Within relationships, trust through communication and honesty helps to prevent short falls often portrayed in these games. If culture at large says-without literally saying so but through action or inaction-that we don't discuss our desires, or misgivings, or boundaries; then we leave ourselves open to be exploited by others who my tap into what we won't discuss with the one we love.

Excuse the nonsensical rambling. I this is cool discussion to have. Thanks again for sharing. Take care.
You raise excellent points with all of your previous messages. Openness, communication, and honesty is very important in a relationship and can help prevent tragic situations. It isn't necessarily the couples fault so much as society's that they were too shy, reluctant, and afraid to confide with each other about their desires, needs, and so on, as well as some of the difficulties and pressures they face. And yes, despite the terrible things that had to occur, the couples love for each other aren't any inferior to the way they were in the beginning of the story. You could argue that now their relationship is stronger in ways and better prepared to handle situations like these in the future instead of being as innocent, shy, ignorant, naive, etc.
 

Noodle2502

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You raise excellent points with all of your previous messages. Openness, communication, and honesty is very important in a relationship and can help prevent tragic situations. It isn't necessarily the couples fault so much as society's that they were too shy, reluctant, and afraid to confide with each other about their desires, needs, and so on, as well as some of the difficulties and pressures they face. And yes, despite the terrible things that had to occur, the couples love for each other aren't any inferior to the way they were in the beginning of the story. You could argue that now their relationship is stronger in ways and better prepared to handle situations like these in the future instead of being as innocent, shy, ignorant, naive, etc.
I agree. They are stronger because of it, though "IT" really did a number on them. It's crazy to see what it takes for couples to knock the walls down and let each other in (not that the situation within the game is the ONLY way, or the RIGHT way by that matter). We carry baggage (good, bad, or indifferent) due to both nature and nurture. Nature gives us the ego, nurture informs us on how we ought to us it. And while we can't toss the proverbial "baby out with the bathwater", when considering what we've learned from those who came before us; we also can't take those teachings as universal gospel. Sometimes we have to chart our own course. Take some risk and see what happens. Ultimately, we need to discover what right, happiness, and/ or peace looks like for us, individually. This game had (more so HAS) me deeply considering who I am in relation to my romantic relationship(s). The subject matter has always been in the back of my mind, right alongside deep disgust and pleasure. I still wonder why... Thanks for the reply and discussion.

Question?

Assume you have played your share of NTR/S games, are there any you could recommend that are as thematically deep and has great character development, art, writing, etc.? I feel like I am asking if you know of the game we currently discussing, but this game and conversation makes me want hunt for more experiences. Let's calling it hunting for the NTR/S unicorn, Again.

Thanks in advance if you can think of anything. Have a great evening and Holidays. Peace!
 
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Noodle2502

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Wait , i just read this game review on VNDB , so i wanna ask about this detail:

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I can't recall if this was an element within the game but is not outside of the norm for Japanese couples to sleep in separate beds or even separate rooms. I am not all-knowing when it comes to costumes and tradition, I just looked it up. Though, I wouldn't put it past Aida to recommend that. Dude was freak'n petty (to put it lightly).
 
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