packard1928

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Here is one to lust over... She is Topless for some reason.... then we see her bending over for a possible standing fuck....or HER first anal drilling... by Christian look at her face !! She is expecting something
 

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I think they went to scope out the restaurant first ... then came back... changed for the party. I think the pic where She walks by Hutch is when they come back from the restaurant and go into the Bedroom to change... but have sex while doing it. Now how does some old guy fit into it ??? Not sure.
No I don't think so. She went with Hutch into the backyard completely dressed and styled. Why would someone dress herself up with hair and make up just to dress different with different hair style and make up the same day on a evening and move to another location. Makes absolut no sense. These are different events on different days!
 
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In my opinion, you can see that in the purple scene, she is not happy with the situation she found herself in.

day :Garden party has four photos,

another day : purpledress , 6 photos

another day: rastaurant date 4 photos
 
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No I don't think so. She went with Hutch into the backyard completely dressed and styled. Why would someone dress herself up with hair and make up just to dress different with different hair style and make up the same day on a evening and move to another location. Makes absolut no sense. These are different events on different days!
Could be ....THey did not talk about them on the same day.... The key is that walk by pic. is that to the car or from the car... THen there is the overnight bag in the Bedroom.....could she have redone her makup.
 

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auto shop guy is the basketball kids father
Oh yeah, that would be an interesting connection. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Then we get both father/son threesome scene with Vivian :KEK: :LUL:
 
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Could be ....THey did not talk about them on the same day.... The key is that walk by pic. is that to the car or from the car... THen there is the overnight bag in the Bedroom.....could she have redone her makup.
don't focus on the bag... focus on vivian ... that render has her wearing stocking which is only in the backyard party renders ....and the dress on the chair looks similar.... thats y i called the backyard party as the last event of the next update but that can open to scrutiny. 1 question y are people so fixated on the bag... did the dev say something about it.
 

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don't focus on the bag... focus on vivian ... that render has her wearing stocking which is only in the backyard party renders ....and the dress on the chair looks similar.... thats y i called the backyard party as the last event of the next update but that can open to scrutiny. 1 question y are people so fixated on the bag... did the dev say something about it.
no... but you have to wonder why it is there ? I am just guessing she had a change of clothes.... maybe restaurant to party clothes... it is all a guess.
 

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1 question y are people so fixated on the bag
no... but you have to wonder why it is there ? I am just guessing she had a change of clothes.... maybe restaurant to party clothes... it is all a guess.
I assume the bag held the party clothes, she came separately from Hutch or Christian, maybe from a work meeting or car trouble, so she had no time to get ready and just tossed the clothes in her bag to dress at the party..... just a thought
 
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It's not about on which release they will be shown. It's about two events which of them a few believe to take place on the same evening just because of a bag and despite the fact that three characters wear different clothes on each of those 2 events.
Never said i was talkin to u. it's related tp several pots i've seen on last pages.
 

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What it really gets me angry is that even in the end Hutch clearly says "Do it..Dont do it..its up to you.."

So even there Hutch gives her a chance to pick him over Christian and do the right thing about their marriage.And she literally from that she gets this.."Does Christian know my husband better than me..Is all men like this?Is that how he knows?"And she rants up some bullshit that they eventually this will blow up and they can work to get back to where they were..

I mean bitch please really?From what your husband is saying thats what you actually thought?She doesnt even get that this is his way to give her another chance to actually work their marriage.She is pretty delusional from the day 1.
 

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I really don't get the point of the discussion about what Vivian will do. Personally, it's all obvious to me - she'll fuck everyone we've been introduced to. That's evidenced by her actions, not her words. All of her actions have led to this. Yes and I think that for the author the main character is Vivian - and therefore many sex scenes will happen to her without any consequences. Because it's her actions that make her act like Christian is her husband, not Hutch. You can write it off as them being partners in crime, but Vivian acts like that with Christian even before the first sex.
I want to be wrong, but I think all the characters we've been introduced to will fuck Vivian (except Hutch, of course).
 

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I really don't get the point of the discussion about what Vivian will do. Personally, it's all obvious to me - she'll fuck everyone we've been introduced to. That's evidenced by her actions, not her words. All of her actions have led to this. Yes and I think that for the author the main character is Vivian - and therefore many sex scenes will happen to her without any consequences. Because it's her actions that make her act like Christian is her husband, not Hutch. You can write it off as them being partners in crime, but Vivian acts like that with Christian even before the first sex.
I want to be wrong, but I think all the characters we've been introduced to will fuck Vivian (except Hutch, of course).
I actually agree with you, considering the different male characters we've been introduced to all expressed a sexual interest in Vivian. It may be the author playing with us, but i think he showed us these characters for a reason : they'll have a role to play in this story and this being a porn game, a sexual one. The interesting thing being for us if it will (or not) unfold in a congruent way with this introduction we saw. For my part, it would be very disappointing if the only explication would be that she's a whore. It's important to maintain a dilemma for Vivian.
 
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Wow, I go to bed and wake up to 4 new pages of comments... Good job peeps!

Well she said to Christian she will not sleeping with him again at the end of the bathroom scene and then after Hutch sets the marriage to open, I just wonder how insistent she will be and how Christian would react. While she tells Christian during their scop out mission that Hutch allowed her to get what she wants, Christian could tease her during their take out and say to her that she should show him how much she needs it. This gives Christian far greater scope to corrupt her.
We all know that she will be sleeping with Christian again, regardless of what she has said i.e. first he promise in the bathroom, and secondly her comment to Hutch that she does not want anything to do with that man.
The question we have is how her next time would be achieved. I think this is another mystery to add to my list.

The Mysteries

9. Mystery 9: How will Vivian end up being fucked by Christian
a) Christian will go all Borg on her: Resistance is Futile!
b) Vivian will willingly spread her legs, after all it's an open relationship
c) She will capitulate faster than France in WW2
d) After enough pressure and threats she, reluctantly agrees
e) Dev's surprise


With "just go wild" the story would just end being dull and boring. We witnessed manipulation and corruption in the first release and then someone mentions (Vivian) she won't do it with the certain person (Christian) anymore and the certain person somehow accepts it
This is also my opinion. The wilder she gets without restriction or remorse, the more boring the story will get.
Minimizing the number of partners has has, will be more beneficial to the story. I hope she does not end up with any of the current side characters, they just are not appealing, even the prospective BBC (over done billions of times).
What sets this game apart is the dynamic between Vivian's decisions and Hutch's reactions: The dilemma of how far is too far and where to draw the line that should not be crossed. All other characters, including Christian, are only assets to assist in this battle.
 

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9. Mystery 9: How will Vivian end up being fucked by Christian
a) Christian will go all Borg on her: Resistance is Futile!
b) Vivian will willingly spread her legs, after all it's an open relationship
c) She will capitulate faster than France in WW2
d) After enough pressure and threats she, reluctantly agrees
e) Dev's surprise
think b and c are the obvious choices... even though i don't want it to happen to vivian.... but being a vn with a predetermined path and choice taken away from the reader.... the first time vivian is introduced to the readers she is so perceptive of hutches reactions and feeling (this viewpoint for me is very close to home) and even after hutch tells her what might happen if she meets his coworkers she goes behind his back and meets the boss...what happened to the woman who was so intune with her husband.... this really triggers some personal feeling. and the consequent series of bad choices cements her as a character with many flaws. in view of this my bets are on b and c. as she is happy in what she is going to do and happy that hutch is allowing it and not even remembering that just also said don't do it and told her it's her choice... that's my view from the way she reacts at the end of the update.
What sets this game apart is the dynamic between Vivian's decisions and Hutch's reactions: The dilemma of how far is too far and where to draw the line that should not be crossed.
exactly....they seem so close to real life and yet too far to believe at times... it also creates a conflict in the reader even if there are no choice. i asked the dev a week before if this is a story he wrote or contracted it... and there was no reply.... so if anyone has come across such a story .... info about it would be appreciated..would put a lot of theories to rest.
she is slowing developing feelings for Christian, even knowing what kind of asshole he is, plus the sex is great.
from the few interactions and the way the dev implements the scene... this is the most likely possibility and christian being the narcissist that he is makes it so. which "MAY" give vivian a wake up call and some sort of dilema in the open relationship in the future update...
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the above pic raises a lot of possible questions that you have pointed out in your mysteries...this is the 2nd most important preview the first being the cigarette man pic...for me as it eliminates other posibile theories. the way the dev will explain these pics will change the game for me.
 
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What it really gets me angry is that even in the end Hutch clearly says "Do it..Dont do it..its up to you.."

So even there Hutch gives her a chance to pick him over Christian and do the right thing about their marriage.And she literally from that she gets this.."Does Christian know my husband better than me..Is all men like this?Is that how he knows?"And she rants up some bullshit that they eventually this will blow up and they can work to get back to where they were..

I mean bitch please really?From what your husband is saying thats what you actually thought?She doesnt even get that this is his way to give her another chance to actually work their marriage.She is pretty delusional from the day 1.
I read that line from Hutch as nothing more than him giving up. He's not actually giving her the choice to do the right thing, per se, he's just realising that he has no power in the decision, and/or he is so apathetic already that he doesn't care anymore. He's already broken, as was shown a few times before this came up, what's the point in him trying anymore?
 
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I read that line from Hutch as nothing more than him giving up. He's not actually giving her the choice to do the right thing, per se, he's just realising that he has no power in the decision, and/or he is so apathetic already that he doesn't care anymore. He's already broken, as was shown a few times before this came up, what's the point in him trying anymore?
i dont have the experience of being in such a long relationship.the dynamics of it.... my views agree with ponos. thats hutch's last final futile attempt to get him loving wife back... people raise their voice to get the upper hand in argument and there are exceptions to this rule... we see that in christian. hutch raises his voice and say that dialogue.... cos he is showing that he is upset after all the code talk... the take away for vivian from all that is she thinks christian knows hutch better than her.vivian at the start did know hutch better and still made the choice of fucking the boss in the backyard this is depicted with her crying about it even before it happens as she has come to terms with what must be done. hutch was broken from what he saw cos he though he knew his wife better than that .... and she has been lying about it since then and not telling him the truth... in that situation any husband however loving and kind will break(break being the wrong word here maybe loss of affection). the point of him trying is that he might know what will be the end result. the end result being what happened in the past of vivian and hutch ... the explanation for the tatoos... and y she is a substitute teacher when she comes across as a smart intelligent independent woman. i'm not saying anyone is wrong .... just pointing out the possibilities.
 

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i dont have the experience of being in such a long relationship.the dynamics of it.... my views agree with ponos. thats hutch's last final futile attempt to get him loving wife back... people raise their voice to get the upper hand in argument and there are exceptions to this rule... we see that in christian. hutch raises his voice and say that dialogue.... cos he is showing that he is upset after all the code talk... the take away for vivian from all that is she thinks christian knows hutch better than her.vivian at the start did know hutch better and still made the choice of fucking the boss in the backyard this is depicted with her crying about it even before it happens as she has come to terms with what must be done. hutch was broken from what he saw cos he though he knew his wife better than that .... and she has been lying about it since then and not telling him the truth... in that situation any husband however loving and kind will break(break being the wrong word here maybe loss of affection). the point of him trying is that he might know what will be the end result. the end result being what happened in the past of vivian and hutch ... the explanation for the tatoos... and y she is a substitute teacher when she comes across as a smart intelligent independent woman. i'm not saying anyone is wrong .... just pointing out the possibilities.
Honestly idk why so many people qualify Vivian with the terms, strong, intelligent, while most her actions are a display of self-overestimation, and let's say it, sometimes plain stupidity :

- She thinks she can in 5 minutes advise her husband on a field she knows nothing about.

- Goes behind her husband's back thinking she could manipulate her husband's boss, all that to return home the tail between her legs

- I won't delve in the events at at Christian's home, bc it will take another page

- Her husband is asking questions so precise that it indicates he knows, he's clearly totally wtihdrawn from her, and yet she still doesn't get it.

- She promises herself no more shenanigans with Christian and yet goes to talk in a bathroom with him, knowing the guy has no shame. Btw, this woman only cheats on her husband when she's likely to get caught, that's a disease.

I know the dev is obliged to take some "arrangements" with the logic to tell the story he wants to tell, but don't say Vivian is smart, please. Nor that she's strong, all we have seen indicates the opposite.

For Hutch, i think (it's an opinion which is worth another) he fools himself into thinking it's something they can get over as a couple. I think he really loves his wife and even what he had seen or heard has not been enough for him to fall out of love for her. I think he's very dependent on her. That's why Chrstian stroke the right nerve by saying : "Ask yourself... in what scenario would she be better off without you... would you be better off without her?". But everyone has his limits and her affair(s) will put them to test.
 
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