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humiliation is only present if you want to humiliate someone. intentionally. you can also humiliate someone without even meaning to. That's what I'd like from Vivian and from this story. Have you read what I wrote? Do you think I post it in all the threads?
Just as a reference here - there was a discussion pro and con about exactly this point in this thread a few weeks ago...
 
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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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She senses that bad times are coming and subconsciously expresses it.
Haven't you read the script?
 

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Vivian was thinking in mid-plow
Vivian was too preoccupied with getting stuffed like a turkey with all of Christian's manhood, while Hutch was despairing in the corner :HideThePain:
Too much action going on for her to realize where her surroundings were :KEK:
 
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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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Faack YESSS!!!
That's what I meant from the very beggining!
 
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what don't you understand?

There is a watch on the book, most likely Hutch is at home.
There is a good chance that she is talking to Chris.
I ment the book... But I still don't think it would be Christian. She does not smile or laugh with him. Sometime I do see Hutch without a watch... maybe it is just the render... But I do not think it is Chris. Could be wrong... probably am LOL
 

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bedside table on Hutch side, in many scenes
since the bedside topic has been brought up... vivian is on the right side of the bed which is odd for me... any thoughts.
On the first night he forced her to have sex and she submitted to it, in the toilet he convinces her by force, but later she completely gives in to his influence "last dance".
think you should rephrase that luc... since forced >> rape and there is no rape tag. in the scenes before the backyard vivian is ready to bend over(do whatever it takes or sacrifice herself which is a recurring theme) as it's shown by how she cries before going out. christian gave her an option when he invites vivian to the bed and she just accepts the offer and rejects hutch's protest. even in the toilet she was coerced at the start but a happy parter in the end. since the "marathon" at christian's house vivian was more susceptible to christians moves as seen from their interactions.
what do you imagine were vivians inner thoughts when she was in the bedroom all night with the boss and hutchy was on the couch? what were her inner thoughts in your opinion?
i would say none, vacant space up top.... since the start her actions just said no brain ;). if we had to nitpick yes some may seem logical or sensible but going to the boss behind the husband back and not telling him. or lying about the sexy dress she got from the boss knowing full well what hutch was afraid the boss will do to her (my wording is vague as hutch feared christian get what he wants indicating hutch knows about christians wine and dine meetings).
 
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I dont seem to be able to play all the way through to the end without fapping... Damn!! :devilish: :devilish:

This game ticks all my fetish boxes & Vivian is so damned HOT!!!!!!!
 
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think you should rephrase that luc... since forced >> rape and there is no rape tag. in the scenes before the backyard vivian is ready to bend over(do whatever it takes or sacrifice herself which is a recurring theme) as it's shown by how she cries before going out. christian gave her an option when he invites vivian to the bed and she just accepts the offer and rejects hutch's protest. even in the toilet she was coerced at the start but a happy parter in the end. since the "marathon" at christian's house vivian was more susceptible to christians moves as seen from their interactions.
yes, of course you are right
although we have here a situation where no means yes, of course there is no physical violence here, not even psychological violence, advantage of influence, material position and not without significance - personal charm "bad boy". I works.

A business transaction takes place at Chris's house, she really doesn't want to do it, but she knows she has to in order to maintain her family's financial peace. I guess she thought she was going to be a ONS.
Physically pleasant, morally weak, but in a year she won't remember it. She is doing it for her son first and foremost, not for her&Hutch.

The second time, in the toilet - she also says that it's the last time - only that she is getting more and more

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the second time I play for the scenario, I dig into the content, behaviors, reactions, background, details. My approach to the story doesn't change, but after all these conversations here, I see situations more clearly
 
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the second time I play for the scenario, I dig into the content, behaviors, reactions, background, details. My approach to the story doesn't change, but after all these conversations here, I see situations more clearly
played this kn a few times at first it was so i could capture the reactions and screenshots to make my thoughts .... and as i did that i trying to understand the possible branches for this kn's flow and the various details the dev sprinkles into his work. if you had read my first post and my recent posts it's like a 180 in my views. different people take different ways to understand stuff thats y the auto forward function which makes you skip the details plays into the devs favor. the first few times i read the kn many(or just me) readers missed those clues for possible future events or drama between hutch and vivian and who is sacrificing for their marriage/family and many more instance like these.
 

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played this kn a few times at first it was so i could capture the reactions and screenshots to make my thoughts .... and as i did that i trying to understand the possible branches for this kn's flow and the various details the dev sprinkles into his work. if you had read my first post and my recent posts it's like a 180 in my views. different people take different ways to understand stuff thats y the auto forward function which makes you skip the details plays into the devs favor. the first few times i read the kn many(or just me) readers missed those clues for possible future events or drama between hutch and vivian and who is sacrificing for their marriage/family and many more instance like these.
I can't wait for the phone call scene when she is confessing her love for hutchy McCucky and getting plowed at the same time by the boss lol then by the end of phone she is screaming how much more she love the boss then hangs up as they laugh together and bust lol .. that would be hot lol
 
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