Dealbreaker

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Me, I'm counting on the dev to maintain the level of the story - because that's what attracted the large audience here, not just the fancy graphics.
Note that with such a high level of 5* reviews very few people from them, participate in the conversation.
I don't know if we ever really got to the bottom of why so many people like the game esp in comparison to others or to "the rest" (this is often stressed). In my opinion its absolutely not the sex scenes or the graphics or not even the characters (dev himself says they are not likeable). I think it's the brutal realism (earlier we mentioned the shock value), more precise: the honesty. Realism not meaning plausibility of events here but confrontation with the facts. The cheating here is NOT fetishized and it is not sugarcoated and it is (upt to now) not ideologized (e.g.: happy couple wanted to try something new they needed it and poly is the future of sex and everybody is satisfied and she gains freedom and self confidence etc.). But it is left standing raw as a factum brutum - with all possible consequences on the table and not immediately sorted out by ready-made narratives. I think this documentative factual quality is kind of the unique selling point here.
 
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I don't know if we ever really got to the bottom of why so many people like the game esp in comparison to others or to "the rest" (this is often stressed). In my opinion its absolutely not the sex scenes or the graphics or not even the characters (dev himself says they are not likeable). I think it's the brutal realism (earlier we mentioned the shock value), more precise: the honesty. Realism not meaning plausibility of events here but confrontation with the facts. The cheating here is NOT fetishized and it is not sugarcoated and it is (upt to now) not ideologized (e.g.: happy couple wanted to try something new they needed it and poly is the future of sex and everybody is satisfied and she gains freedom and self confidence etc.). But it is left standing raw as a factum brutum - with all possible consequences on the table and not immediately sorted out by ready-made narratives. I think this documentative factual quality is kind of the unique selling point here.
It's about the authenticity factor, the adult dialogues and, as some women wrote here, a certain degree of realism.
 

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I don't know if we ever really got to the bottom of why so many people like the game esp in comparison to others or to "the rest" (this is often stressed). In my opinion its absolutely not the sex scenes or the graphics or not even the characters (dev himself says they are not likeable). I think it's the brutal realism (earlier we mentioned the shock value), more precise: the honesty. Realism not meaning plausibility of events here but confrontation with the facts. The cheating here is NOT fetishized and it is not sugarcoated and it is (upt to now) not ideologized (e.g.: happy couple wanted to try something new they needed it and poly is the future of sex and everybody is satisfied and she gains freedom and self confidence etc.). But it is left standing raw as a factum brutum - with all possible consequences on the table and not immediately sorted out by ready-made narratives. I think this documentative factual quality is kind of the unique selling point here.
It's the storytelling for me, which is largely encompassed in your post.
 

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What I found appealing, which I stated in one of the first game reviews, is how the husband/wife relationship was established. For pure Netorare, whereby the husband does not get gratification from watching his wife get plowed, there needs to be love and connection with husband and wife. The Dev did a good job establishing their bond. Which makes the events that much more horrifying from the Husband’s perspective. That and the Dev’s clever use of facial expressions and what you do not see. Frankly, Vivian isn’t my cup of tea in terms of attractiveness. Yet, she was made more appealing as the story went on…probably because the Dev made me give a damn. People analyze this story because it is full of nuance and unknowns. It is a disservice to simply refer to Vivian as a whore and the husband a simp or whatever. While taken to near extremes, this couple is struggling with issues that actually crop up in marriages after the seven to ten year mark. Perhaps, that is why it resonates with so many.
 

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Here irs the thing. As I see it . Vivian has done everything for the husband. ( All be it misguided ) She loves her Husband that much to rick things so He will not fail. Along the way she likes the sex... but is still very much in love with her husband. This next release will tell us more about that.. The Hutch release will tell us if Hutch is deserving of that risk. We will see if he comes to the rescue and takes down the bad guy..
 
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Here irs the thing. As I see it . Vivian has done everything for the husband. ( All be it misguided ) She loves her Husband that much to rick things so He will not fail. Along the way she likes the sex... but is still very much in love with her husband. This next release will tell us more about that.. The Hutch release will tell us if Hutch is deserving of that risk. We will see if he comes to the rescue and takes down the bad guy..
Good point but we expect more darker, so i think we will not see vivian happy but not sad too. She might consider her own position and wanna keep going with that. in second hand we sure hutch will suffer more and more.
 

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In the game script file there are planned tags and potential titles of the upcoming updates.
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Planned tags are telling me that Vivian will either film porn/be forced into prostitution... I think the dev will offer something new that's not seen already in porn games and not what's already done to death.
 

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Planned tags are telling me that Vivian will either film porn/be forced into prostitution... I think the dev will offer something new that's not seen already in porn games and not what's already done to death.
I honestly don't think we're going to see anything we've never seen before. What I do think is that it's going to be better told than many times before. In fact, that's what's happening with this first episode. It doesn't have anything new, but it's much better told than it has been before.
 

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She's not risking anything for Hutch, she's in this for herself. She has become used to a certain lifestyle and social Statues that hutches job provides and shell be f&#ked ( literally) if she's going to let go of that.

The "poor wee me, I'm risking it all for you babe" is just the excuse that women like Vivian uses to trick themselves into believing, that her selfish actions are for the greater good and that she's not a self serving slut of which she is.

Remember lads, when a woman, any women cheats ( its because they are bored and need to feel alive) they will burn their entire life's to the ground, just to feel good for a short time, and they Will always find a way to blame you and play the victim. Cheating is a choice, its a "yes" or "no" scenario, and Vivian choose yes.

Hutch is a weak man, who is a afraid to stand his ground against Christian, so when Christian made his move on Vivian, ( if Vivian really did love her husband as much as she claims) she should have taken the initiative and told Christian to fuck off and left with her husband, but no, her panties dropped quicker that a nuclear bomb for Christians dominant alpha male energy had her pussy cooking like a microwave and she wanted served.
I here you... but in the game she said ...They could leave everything and start over in a new city... Just as long as they are together. That is not the acts of a selfish woman.. She has problems yes.. but she is not selfish.
 

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Planned tags are telling me that Vivian will either film porn/be forced into prostitution... I think the dev will offer something new that's not seen already in porn games and not what's already done to death.
Not sure why they're telling you that, but I suppose pretty much anything is possible here at the moment, since we're early enough...
 

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Project Update

A few more weeks. Probably first half of June. What I have left to do is very tedious stuff and not particularly fun so I'm a bit slow at it.

I've been keeping my distance from the forum lately and will continue to do so for now, but the well wishes are appreciated. Bare with me a little longer. I'm confident you'll enjoy the update when released.

Thanks.
thank you
 
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Planned tags are telling me that Vivian will either film porn/be forced into prostitution... I think the dev will offer something new that's not seen already in porn games and not what's already done to death.
I would not mind her becoming a professional whore/porn protagonist. If she just levels up to Christian's level being his trophy business "partner", it would be too simple.
 

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This was a huge surprise!!!
By preview pics and first release i almost skip it.
Only downloaded because the topic can be fun. I mean, just a funny game... The usual in this kind of topic. In worst case been a first release only I only should be wasting ten minutes.

How far from reality.

Great work


A shame the wife is not a lil more cute because while the story keeps you immerse a hotter sex scene should impact pretty hard.
I can see the line followed make appropriated exactly this kind of wife but only her face, some lifting and collagen in lips, here and there... It could be such a fap...
 
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So the opposite of a big bang, he gets kind of frozen out, she holds him in as a "friend" without benefits with pity and and a protective attitude (he can keep his job, she can guarantee that)? And he is in a permanent emotional stupor, the rest of his life is monk mode?
Or is this a sort of deal - he is allowed to still "love" her and she gets an emotional support system? Not sure - because I don't know if she can stand this: knowing and hearing that he still loves her, and that he will wait etc. while she is deep into her second life already.
I think both of these could fit. The former is closer to what I had i mind, but the latter works too. As far as Vivian's willingness to go along with knowing and hearing that Hutch still loves her and is willing to wait for her, I think she is selfish enough to eventually go along with that while deep in her second life. I think she could eventually rationalize her behavior to the point where it no longer bothers her conscience. In Hutch and Vivian's case I could see Vivian having some fondness for Hutch, in an almost maternal sense, while completely dismissing him as a husband or even a man. At the same time I could see Hutch perpetually and pathetically carrying a torch for Vivian, or living in quiet despair constantly mourning the death of their marriage while being tormented daily by her presence.
 

packard1928

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This was a huge surprise!!!
By preview pics and first release i almost skip it.
Only downloaded because the topic can be fun. I mean, just a funny game... The usual in this kind of topic. In worst case been a first release only I only should be wasting ten minutes.

How far from reality.

Great work


A shame the wife is not a lil more cute because while the story keeps you immerse a hotter sex scene should impact pretty hard.
I can see the line followed make appropriated exactly this kind of wife but only her face, some lifting and collagen in lips, here and there... It could be such a fap...
Great to have you aboard !
 

TonyMurray

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A shame the wife is not a lil more cute because while the story keeps you immerse a hotter sex scene should impact pretty hard.
I can see the line followed make appropriated exactly this kind of wife but only her face, some lifting and collagen in lips, here and there... It could be such a fap...
I don't think I've actually said anything really about Vivian's looks before, but this has prompted me to.

Vivian isn't my usual style for an LI. I think she's pretty, but not even close to stunning, and I'm not a fan of short hair on women as a rule (it's not a turn off, I just much prefer long hair). She's the sort of woman who I would appreciate seeing in passing, but would forget soon after. And I think that's the point. In my opinion, which could obviously be miles off base, Vivian is pretty perfectly and deliberately crafted to fit the role - she's a housewife (not the literal stay-at-home definition) and a teacher.

She has a couple of students crushing on her because she's pretty, but it's not every male student, because she doesn't look like a pornstar or model and/or dress all seductive, etc. The same with her son's friends - they're probably crushing on her a bit more because they have the proximity factor too, they can see her outside of a professional setting, and can even hug her and maybe push the boundaries a little by getting a bit "accidentally" handsy while they do it. And who hasn't heard of teens/young adults crushing on their friend's mom or dad? It's actually quite a natural and common thing.

But then you put Vivian in a certain situation, and she is undeniably sexy. The combination of that change from loving wife and teacher to basically a sex symbol, and the corruption and (initial) hiding of what's happening, just makes the situation and the character so many levels hotter than she has any right to be. I think she's perfect for the role she's "playing", and the role is perfect for her. It's not even that she's stunningly beautiful but hiding it under frumpy clothes, no make-up, and a bad hairstyle, like they always do in the movies then give her a glow-up to show that she can be the belle of the ball - her additional sexiness comes from her persona and the situation, and then once you see it, it's always going to be there.

A lot of that is down to the way the scenes are done as well though, as putting the same model and situation in many other games just wouldn't work as the sex scenes aren't given nearly as much care and focus - it's an extreme example, but one game I play would have the scenes go from a quick build up to a quick animation of them fucking in just one position, and then they're finished and moving on with the next bit of dialogue.

I just think we have the perfect combination of story and model here - I'm deliberately trying to imagine how it would be if instead of Vivian we had someone like Anna from A Perfect Marriage. Obviously it's difficult, but I just don't think it would work half as well. The scenes would be hot because they're hot regardless of what the model looks like, but Anna just wouldn't have that same sort of situational sexiness for me, and it would be obious from the start that everyone is going to be making eyes (and moves) at her.

So yeah, I'm never going to rate Vivian as one of my top LIs in terms of looks, but in terms of sexiness, she's a hell of a lot higher up, and would fare better than a good bunch of the "most attractive" LIs in the games I've played. IMO, the dev understands what makes a woman sexy, and I'm glad he didn't make Vivian the conventional stunner that most devs would, by default, make their leading lady.
 
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