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Saerwen

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What's with this whole feminist clap-trap "without any label's"? So young single women ( from your perspective) shouldn't be held accountable for anything they do? Young single women shouldn't have any standards or morals to live up to when it comes to their private sex lives?

What if you were dating a woman you really liked, the relationship gets serious, you think that she's the one. On a night, out with the lads one of you're close friend's decided to level with you about Becky ( you're girlfriend).

You discover that Becky, the apple of your eye, the supposed love of you're life, this perfect woman is actually a 304, she's been ran through more times that the euro tunnel. she has had her back blowout by all you buddies, a few lads you work with and the entire local football team.

are you telling me that you'd be of the opinion "don't judge or label her" LMAO.

You'd continue to date Becky, and everytime you out at the local bar, you know every man there has been between her legs and filled her up. You're talked about and laughed at behind you're back as you are labeled the local super simp of the town. Unfortunately lad, every action has consequences and while men and women are free to do as they will, if you burn your reputation to the ground it's gone. Women love studs, the bad boy, the unpredictable loose cannon, while men want to marry ladies
Single women and single men can do whatever they want when they aren't in a relationship nor married. Do I really need to explain how bachelor/ette lifestyle works?
 

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I would be surprised if Hutch stays with Vivian. From the moment she got fucked by Christian she became tainted goods. Want the son to walk into a situation and see his mom doing something with someone. He tells his dad and Hutch tells him everything Hutch just gives up and leaves. Vivian comes home to find her son sitting there and he tells her what he saw and what his dad said. Tells her she will never see him or dad again. Just leaves as well. You see Hutch driving and he looks over and you see Addison. Christian is arrested for federal embezzlement crimes. Vivian is fired for inappropriate behavior and violating the moral clause in her contract. Turns out one of her parents took pics of her on one of her outings. Sent to the school board.
 

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What's with this whole feminist clap-trap "without any label's"? So young single women ( from your perspective) shouldn't be held accountable for anything they do? Young single women shouldn't have any standards or morals to live up to when it comes to their private sex lives?
You are certainly a long way from setting such a compass of moral conduct.

Everyone suffers the consequences of their actions - however, female sexual promiscuity is extremely stigmatized by a group of young men (called incels) while being praised when the same practice is done by a guy (alpha).

getting closer and closer to the second part and you can see that some people are already blowing fuses


What do you even have with these children - you are 15 years old and the only woman you can dream about is your own mother ?
I'm open to any concept of Vivian's development (I'm also taking the options of twins) - but the only role I can see for the son is to blame the mother for breaking up the marriage/family (without going into details)
 
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What is something that would kinda "ruin" this game for you? Something you really hope won't happen. Can be a minor thing like visual changes, can be a major thing like something happening that you can't reverse.

For me some things I hope don't happen:
- divorce
- blackmail
- Husband kiss/have sex with someone other than wife (without choice)
- Wife admits to sleeping around (no matter how obvious I want them to keep "tiptoeing around" the subject)
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however, female sexual promiscuity is extremely stigmatized by a group of young men (called incels) while being praised when the same practice is done by a guy (alpha).
"Incels" (whatever they are, I wouldn't use the term at all - as I wouldn't use femcels either) don't dominate the public disourse in any way. The public disourse in the West celebrates female promiscuity in literature, advertising, movies, pop culture, music. What Geigi here said is just a reflection of that opinion which you can find everywhere. It's the mainstream opinion now. Not saying this is good or bad, just stating facts.
 
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"Incels" (whatever they are, I wouldn't use the term at all - as I wouldn't use femcels either) don't dominate the public disourse in any way. The public disourse in the West celebrates female promiscuity in literature, advertising, movies, pop culture, music. What Geigi here said is just a reflection of that opinion which you can find everywhere. It's the mainstream opinion now. Not saying this is good or bad, just stating facts.

I would say that a balance is coming. First of all, men are the authors of the sexualizing image of women in pop culture.

This is a fact
 

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First of all, men are the authors of the sexualizing image of women in pop culture.
Well, we shouldn't go off topic here, but I would say, that the more power women have in pop culture (and they already have a lot), the more they sexualize men. And this is normal, from both sides.
 

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- divorce
- Vivian starts fucking everyone
- Hutch Voluntarily becomes a cuck
- Incest, atleast if vivian goes for her son
- if we dont see footage of the camera`s from Chris house

I think the most important point is that Vivian doesn't become a complete whore.
I'll follow the story to the end, no matter what, but the above points would still be a shame.

I agree. I don't want her to just start banging any and everyone. I think it would detract from the overall story. However I think I can see a bit of "Giving Vivian a taste of even more forbidden fruit" and have her end up blowing a few guys but then she threatens to cut any and all ties with him regardless of the consequences and he backs down and doesn't have her go all out on other people and merely parades her around to others. At least until she ends up hearing that she is just the "Next One In Line" when it comes to Christian and she wanted to feel special and now she's just seen as another conquest and he will soon get bored with her and toss her aside...which causes her to regret everything she has done up to that point and grovels to Hutch in order to try and get back what they had before she started all of this mess. But Hutch doesn't relent and ends up just ignoring her because Christian has been sending him information on what they're doing and eventually just sends a package of pictures and videos of the things they've done and he just ends up walking away from everything when it comes to Vivian.

I know that goes against your first point, but if she goes and starts anything with anyone else then divorce MUST be an option for Hutch as he would only ever remember those photos, the videos, and the time he was in the stall begging him to fuck her "one last time" and then had him continue even when he was "balls deep inside her as she professed her love for her husband" and made the comment of "wouldn't be the first time this has happened". I think that stall scene was much more profound than we realize and it's going to be a key factor down the line.

I agree though that I'm here to see what happens, but I would be disappointed if it's just another mess of "look who I turned into a free use whore!" story like so many other NTRs become.
 

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I agree. I don't want her to just start banging any and everyone. I think it would detract from the overall story. However I think I can see a bit of "Giving Vivian a taste of even more forbidden fruit" and have her end up blowing a few guys but then she threatens to cut any and all ties with him regardless of the consequences and he backs down and doesn't have her go all out on other people and merely parades her around to others. At least until she ends up hearing that she is just the "Next One In Line" when it comes to Christian and she wanted to feel special and now she's just seen as another conquest and he will soon get bored with her and toss her aside...which causes her to regret everything she has done up to that point and grovels to Hutch in order to try and get back what they had before she started all of this mess. But Hutch doesn't relent and ends up just ignoring her because Christian has been sending him information on what they're doing and eventually just sends a package of pictures and videos of the things they've done and he just ends up walking away from everything when it comes to Vivian.

I know that goes against your first point, but if she goes and starts anything with anyone else then divorce MUST be an option for Hutch as he would only ever remember those photos, the videos, and the time he was in the stall begging him to fuck her "one last time" and then had him continue even when he was "balls deep inside her as she professed her love for her husband" and made the comment of "wouldn't be the first time this has happened". I think that stall scene was much more profound than we realize and it's going to be a key factor down the line.

I agree though that I'm here to see what happens, but I would be disappointed if it's just another mess of "look who I turned into a free use whore!" story like so many other NTRs become.
Interesting points

But as I was reading over this a theory popped into my head :ROFLMAO:

I don't think Vivian will sleep with anyone else of her own choosing or free will .... After all the game is called my husbands boss so that would suggest to me that it will solely only be Christian or if she does have encounters with others it will be Christians doing
 
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I agree. I don't want her to just start banging any and everyone. I think it would detract from the overall story. However I think I can see a bit of "Giving Vivian a taste of even more forbidden fruit" and have her end up blowing a few guys but then she threatens to cut any and all ties with him regardless of the consequences and he backs down and doesn't have her go all out on other people and merely parades her around to others. At least until she ends up hearing that she is just the "Next One In Line" when it comes to Christian and she wanted to feel special and now she's just seen as another conquest and he will soon get bored with her and toss her aside...which causes her to regret everything she has done up to that point and grovels to Hutch in order to try and get back what they had before she started all of this mess. But Hutch doesn't relent and ends up just ignoring her because Christian has been sending him information on what they're doing and eventually just sends a package of pictures and videos of the things they've done and he just ends up walking away from everything when it comes to Vivian.

I know that goes against your first point, but if she goes and starts anything with anyone else then divorce MUST be an option for Hutch as he would only ever remember those photos, the videos, and the time he was in the stall begging him to fuck her "one last time" and then had him continue even when he was "balls deep inside her as she professed her love for her husband" and made the comment of "wouldn't be the first time this has happened". I think that stall scene was much more profound than we realize and it's going to be a key factor down the line.

I agree though that I'm here to see what happens, but I would be disappointed if it's just another mess of "look who I turned into a free use whore!" story like so many other NTRs become.
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I don't think there will be any incest... just maybe her son's roommates and maybe as a one-off scene.

But everything points that the number of lovers will be low in numbers and the story and plot will be what the developer hits harder on. In the closing scenes when Vivian and Hutch are having "code speech" about her getting a kitchen pass to play with Christian, the developer went way out of his way to detail the situation and change in their relationship. Now again, Hutch didn't give her a pass on every male, just one, Christian, and it is that I think will be the main plot to corruption.
 

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I don't think there will be any incest... just maybe her son's roommates and maybe as a one-off scene.

But everything points that the number of lovers will be low in numbers and the story and plot will be what the developer hits harder on. In the closing scenes when Vivian and Hutch are having "code speech" about her getting a kitchen pass to play with Christian, the developer went way out of his way to detail the situation and change in their relationship. Now again, Hutch didn't give her a pass on every male, just one, Christian, and it is that I think will be the main plot to corruption.
I completely agree with you up to the last sentence. It was never specified that the "pass" was just for Christian. Personally, I believe that Hutch intends it just for Christian and their "work" together, but it can absolutely be taken to mean "free pass" – Vivian asks herself "Did he just open our marriage?" It's absolutely implied that both of them are only talking in terms of Christian, but it's also absolutely open to interpretation in the way it is worded.

Is that an oversight? Is that just me being too analytical? Or is it clever wording by the dev to give Vivian the fallback she needs in the instance of further partners in the game?

Again, until something throws it out, I am of the opinion that Christian will be the only one Vivian sleeps with (I'm erring on the side of no sex with Hutch either), however I also believe that the wording here gives the dev license should it turn out that Vivian does end up having sex with the mechanic/Rupert/Marcel/the twins/anyone we've not yet met... Under the umbrella of miscommunication during that "talking code" conversation, if she needed to, Vivian could easily argue that Hutch opened their marriage wide, meaning anyone, as opposed to narrow, meaning just Christian.
 

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This release 2nd is to be mostly about Vivian. The next one is about Hutch 3rd. That is when Hutch will bed Addison based on what Vivian is doing in her release.
 

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This release 2nd is to be mostly about Vivian. The next one is about Hutch 3rd. That is when Hutch will bed Addison based on what Vivian is doing in her release.
No...I don't think he will. He loves Vivian too much to end up going to be with anyone else. However I think he will take comfort and solace in her arms and the "mothering" (can't think of how I really want to word that, but that comes the closest to 'comfort' in my head right now) that she will offer and help soothe him through the entire process. I was one that was on team "Bang someone else, Hutch!" but I don't think he will. I think that would honestly ruin him as a character given how he didn't just instantly charge into the backyard that night at dinner and just confront her then and there. He gave no indication that he would end up being unfaithful as everything in him is trying to make a life for him to feel worthy of Vivian...so I seriously doubt he goes and beds anyone else.
 

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Interesting points

But as I was reading over this a theory popped into my head :ROFLMAO:

I don't think Vivian will sleep with anyone else of her own choosing or free will .... After all the game is called my husbands boss so that would suggest to me that it will solely only be Christian or if she does have encounters with others it will be Christians doing

I would like to think that if there were ever a time that he wanted to "use her as a plaything/puppet" that would be the beginning of the end of them "working together". After all, the implication was to "work" from Hutch's eyes and "work" meant "bang me like a drum" from Vivian's eyes.

There are plenty of games out there where there was a wife that was seduced from her husband and just turned into the local doorknob where anyone and everyone can have a turn and the Dev already stated that he wanted this to be more like a movie with very explicit sex scenes. So I imagine he defiles her in many ways and makes it harder and harder for her to hold onto her promise of "always come home to you" and she'll spend days or even weeks away from him and that will culminate in something awful for both of them.

It's a rough place to be whenever you know your husband saw you fuck his boss and willingly at that. Plus all the dialogue exchange they had throughout that time in the bathroom and how both of them manipulated her into not feeling guilty any more but to be okay with what happened. I think she's going to fall down a fairly large cliff of depravity but she will hit rock bottom before she ultimately realizes that she can never go back and just doesn't go home to him, or he's no longer there to collect her and ship her out for other people's pleasure any longer.

It's the only way I can really see this playing out in the same context of "a movie withe explicit sex scenes" in it.

Dunno...I'm weird like that I guess. lol
 

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I would like to think that if there were ever a time that he wanted to "use her as a plaything/puppet" that would be the beginning of the end of them "working together". After all, the implication was to "work" from Hutch's eyes and "work" meant "bang me like a drum" from Vivian's eyes.

There are plenty of games out there where there was a wife that was seduced from her husband and just turned into the local doorknob where anyone and everyone can have a turn and the Dev already stated that he wanted this to be more like a movie with very explicit sex scenes. So I imagine he defiles her in many ways and makes it harder and harder for her to hold onto her promise of "always come home to you" and she'll spend days or even weeks away from him and that will culminate in something awful for both of them.

It's a rough place to be whenever you know your husband saw you fuck his boss and willingly at that. Plus all the dialogue exchange they had throughout that time in the bathroom and how both of them manipulated her into not feeling guilty any more but to be okay with what happened. I think she's going to fall down a fairly large cliff of depravity but she will hit rock bottom before she ultimately realizes that she can never go back and just doesn't go home to him, or he's no longer there to collect her and ship her out for other people's pleasure any longer.

It's the only way I can really see this playing out in the same context of "a movie withe explicit sex scenes" in it.

Dunno...I'm weird like that I guess. lol
I don't know about weeks away at a time that feels like a big stretch , I would say a weekend at most of continuous time away
 
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