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Chaoticjustice

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I don't see many good endings at this moment, maybe:
1. Chris at some point truly fell in love with her, some turn of events or simple change of heart/some life-changing moment.
2. Hutch/Chris/Vivian ends in poly relationship
3. They somehow survive all this drama, still together, but never the same again - it will leave scar in them/their mental health

and something bad:

1. She become Chris slave + brainwashed completely
2. Happy Hutch with x girl. Where Vivian ends in mental institution. Her current condition is even worse than before, and story will go only darker
3. on the street, cheap slut selling herself for a few bucks :cool: Happy Hutch at some point meet her with his new gf and throw her few bucks, out of pity :ROFLMAO:
4. Vivian suicide, or Hutch has enough and kill her/ or both
5. Hutch "The Last Resort" killing Chris and free her from him
I think if there is going to be a death or something from of serious body damage done I think it will be Vivian but I think it will be through a sex act gone wrong/too far
 

Saerwen

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Although I must say, Christian's choice of fine vintaged wine is quite nice :sneaky:

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Being in the corporate field myself, I've been through a lot of these wining and dining events with clients/executives, so him being a person in exec sales, he possessed that charisma and manipulative mindset to get under Viv's skin :devilish: and make her doubt herself even more without him even trying to or create the impression that he wants to :sneaky:

Guess you could say, as part and parcel of his day-to-day job, he knows how to twist the knife to get people to come to him eventually.

Textbook manipulator/puppeteer.
I didn't know this. So rich people know all about wine, interesting. To me a wine is wine and I feel like there's no difference in taste, just in price but meh, nothing can beat a beer. I guess you learn something new everyday.
Yeah, to an extent, that makes sense. But I have seen a lot of people in my line of work who have both money and looks, but can't hold down a conversation to save their lives.

So, while the things Christian does may seem normal to others in terms of outward appearances alone, that's just the way he wants people to think of him.

As unassuming and reserved as possible, until the situation calls for it :devilish: A wolf in sheep's clothing, so to speak.
It's true, just because someone is rich and good looking it doesn't mean that they are cultured. A good conversation usually starts with reading because by reading you are expanding your vocabulary. Also, you can be bored to death if you have nothing interesting to talk about. A good conversation is a key to be interested in a person and being interesting.
 
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For me more than anything, Chapter 2 was about showing all of the ways in which Vivian has failed her husband and continues to fail her husband, which includes over the years when she refused to engage in sexual exploration with him and even now when she admittedly would deny him having similar experiences with others.

And then after limiting her sexual experience with her husband and directly contributing to them having a less interesting sex life, she has this intense craving/desire for greater sexual novelty and to share the very experiences with others that she denied him?

Bitch, you're crazy. You helped create this! Cases in point below.

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Thus, I'm not among the individuals who are shocked or surprised to see how stupid and distasteful Vivian's decisions and behaviors were in Chapter 2. She showed enough of this kind of decision making in Chapter 1 to where Chapter 2 was set up for this to happen. However, that doesn't mean I don't think she's any less pathological and pathetic in relation to the lies she tells others and herself, her "reasoning" and attempted rationalizations, and her cavalier behaviors as a wife, mother, teacher, and neighborhood occupant.

I'm hoping that this story eventually will become more satisfying in regard to Hutch and would love to see Christian get what he deserves (as well as see Vivian receive a bitch slap from reality at some point), but we will have to see where things go. With the next update expected months from now though, I'm going to dedicate to not thinking or talking much about it.
 
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Saerwen

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For me more than anything, Chapter 2 was about showing all of the ways in which Vivian has failed her husband and continues to fail her husband, which includes over the years when she refused to engage in sexual exploration with him and even now when she admittedly would deny him having similar experiences with others.

And then after limiting her sexual experience with her husband and directly contributing to them having a less interesting sex life, she has this intense craving/desire for greater sexual novelty and to share the very experiences with others that she denied him?

Bitch, you're crazy. You helped create this! Cases in point below.

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Thus, I'm not among the individuals who are shocked or surprised to see how stupid and distasteful Vivian's decisions and behaviors were in Chapter 2. She showed enough of this kind of decision making in Chapter 1 to where Chapter 2 was set up for this to happen. However, that doesn't mean I don't think she's any less pathological and pathetic in relation to the lies she tells others and herself, her "reasoning" and attempted rationalizations, and her cavalier behaviors as a wife, mother, teacher, and neighborhood occupant.

I'm hoping that this story eventually will become more satisfying in regard to Hutch and would love to see Christian get what he deserves (as well as see Vivian receive a bitch slap from reality at some point), but we will have to see where things go. With the next update expected months from now though, I'm going to dedicate to not thinking or talking much about it.
Hate sex is the best with the type of men like Christian. You hate him but don't hate sex with him which is perfect for that type of power dynamics and sexual dom/sub roleplay. Unfortunately, you play with fire and get burden because manipulative people are the worse and they slowly but surely can destroy people's lives. Who are the master manipulators? Politicians.
 
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Hate sex is the best with the type of men like Christian. You hate him but don't hate sex with him which is perfect for that type of power dynamics and sexual dom/sub roleplay. Unfortunately, you play with fire and get burden because manipulative people are the worse and they slowly but surely can destroy people's lives. Who are the master manipulators? Politicians.
Thats all well and good but she specifically asked Christian to have loving sex with her at the end and not hate sex.
 

Saerwen

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Thats all well and good but she specifically asked Christian to have loving sex with her at the end and not hate sex.
Yes, I know but I was referring to what's the best. Sadly for Vivian it's not gonna happen because you can't force people to love.
 
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So that's what dev meant when he said it "will make half of you happy, will make half of you pissed off" :ROFLMAO: (he was talking about the ending, but nvm).
At this point... I think the ending will be based on Vivian... To make half of us happy, something happens to keep Hutch and vivian together. . The flip to that coin is something happens to Vivian. The n the other half will will be screaming foy Joy ! LOL
 

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o found a truly depressing ending - she kills Chris, but Hutch takes it upon himself to go to jail.
I will also say that after the second installment it's hard to even think about a positive ending to the story. Someone has to take the punishment for this and that punishment will take a hard toll on all the characters in this novel.
ohhhh I like this ! THis could be possible !!!
 

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The 180 of Christian and Vivian was wild but, you know what 5 chapters it had to happen this way. Thought about it 3 chapters left. 3rd chapter primary Hutch which means 2 left. Last one is going to be a form of consequences. which means chapter 4 is probably going to be an all-out fuck fest. Now after thinking about it this will be interesting.
 

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The 180 of Christian and Vivian was wild but, you know what 5 chapters it had to happen this way. Thought about it 3 chapters left. 3rd chapter primary Hutch which means 2 left. Last one is going to be a form of consequences. which means chapter 4 is probably going to be an all-out fuck fest. Now after thinking about it this will be interesting.
Well said this seems like the logical set up for the final 3 chapters! Don't know how I'm going to last waiting 4-5 months for Chapter 3 though!
 
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plain an simple at the end when she yells at hutch that is vivian accepting her situation but also mad at hutch for putting her in the situation that ultimately is destroying there marriage and well most likely going to end the marriage in some way shape or form at some point.
 

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In the end I think Christian has to die or be sent to prison. Here is why. Christian is "crazy" about Vivian. Has been sence the beginning. Told Hutch outright that he was going to steal his wife. He says to Vivian ...she is his property... that he owns her. In my opinion.. He will NOT let her go back to hutch now. Not in the normal sense of husband and wife. That would be a blow to his crazy ego. If it does somehow... Hutch will be forced to act, because if he doesn't ... Christian will destroy him. Maybe Vivian to. My opinion is when it comes to Vivian , Christian is unstable.
 

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After thinking for 2 days, ı had conclusion. Christian is not the bad guy and he never be one. It may be ethically wrong to be attractive and dominant and seduce a married woman, but at the end of the day, everyone ends up where they want to be.
+Be attractive and dominant is a normal human behavior.
 
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In the end I think Christian has to die or be sent to prison. Here is why. Christian is "crazy" about Vivian. Has been sence the beginning. Told Hutch outright that he was going to steal his wife. He says to Vivian ...she is his property... that he owns her. In my opinion.. He will NOT let her go back to hutch now. Not in the normal sense of husband and wife. That would be a blow to his crazy ego. If it does somehow... Hutch will be forced to act, because if he doesn't ... Christian will destroy him. Maybe Vivian to. My opinion is when it comes to Vivian , Christian is unstable.
at the end of the day christian is only using hutchy's job as blackmail.. hutch and vivian are grown adult's and no one is forcing them to go over christians house and get plowed.. they can easily just say no.. move and find a different way.. thats what people that love each other do.. christian exposed the crack in the marriage and he will rip it wide open .. and vivian an hutchy have only themselves to blame for all of it
 
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