TonyMurray

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As with most of this game, there is so much that is open to interpretation, and that's one of the fascinating things about it. Two different people can (and repeatedly do) read things in two different ways. It's not because one is right and one is wrong, in many cases it's just that they see something the other doesn't, or they simply interpret something in a different way.

I guess you are not privy to her feelings. I say she shows in the way she repeatedly tries to come to terms with husband that she wants to love and be loved. Same thing in her happiness with boss after the sex scene at the end of part 2. She feels loved because he was gentle and loving with her as she asked. No amount of power he might have would compensate her if he had not done that.

But, I don't expect you to change your opinions. It would be good if you could acknowledge them as such as I do mine, especially allowing for 5 more chapters to come. Our conclusions are all very premature.
Unless things have changed, it's five chapters total, so three more to come.
 

Kenzy01

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You mean that after 22 years marriages are immune to one partner feeling dissatisfied and seeking something better? The psychological principle that has been mischaracterized here a few time is that

A woman is willing to risk the relationship for the sake of her happiness
A man will be less likely to take that chance.

The key words are "risk the relationship", rather than one party being more selfish.

Generally, much of the time, if you must have a generality.
You just say that. ''Risk'' Are we making an investment here to take a risk? This is marriage and you need to talk about everything with your partner. No matter what. After that, you decide together how to give direction to the relationship or add excitement. We are talking about 22 years here. If you cannot overcome such problems, it means that the bond between you is not strong enough to progress the marriage. There is no TRUST.
 
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I disagree based on my personal feelings and definitions, but completely understand why you (and indeed why many) would say so. It's just a case of different viewpoints there. They had sex, she received a payment, but she didn't receive the payment specifically for the sex. You can absolutely argue that the sex was exactly what the payment was for, but you could equally argue that it wasn't, and that's where the opinions come in.

The lies part... no argument, that's where much of the fault comes from.
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Saerwen

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This thread is going completely to shit.
Between the full story in pictures and the Chat GPT summaries ...
pffffff

Sc Stories can take 1 or 2 weeks off. Hoping this thread will be more respectful and constructive
Agreed. It's impossible to have a normal discussion of the game over some dudes copy paste same posts over and over again. It's a porn game and yet dudes projecting their lives on a game that's made for pure enjoyment, their obsession with a female character who isn't real is not healthy.
 

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You just say that. ''Risk'' Are we making an investment here to take a risk? This is marriage and you need to talk about everything with your partner. No matter what. After that, you decide together how to give direction to the relationship or add excitement. We are talking about 22 years here. If you cannot overcome such problems, it means that the bond between you is not strong enough to progress the marriage. There is no TRUST.
Risks do not always have to do with investments. They often have to do with risking the possibility of failure, appearing foolish, or perhaps damaging a relationship beyond repair.

You can be sure that during those 22 years the unsatisfied party has tried repeatedly to make things better. But if to no avail that person would be justified in taking a risk.
 

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A lot of you would be surprised by how women in general would treat a woman like Vivian. She would be despised as the lowest of the lowest. And i'm far from being an incel. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve to be treated as a human being but don't kid youselves : she would never be taken seriously by most of the men, as i said her relations with women would be catastrophic and even her parents (if still alive) would turn their back on her. It isn't a simple cheating story here.
 

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WTF is going on in here...:oops:

I didn't look for one day, and now people are being called Incels :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

This has escalated rather a lot from where we were when I left.
 
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Luc77

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Let's talk about the game — about the story, about possible directions for development — and not constantly about the fact that Vi is... and why that is. That mostly says something about you.



Sequence of events led to the situation she found herself in. She reacted as expected (because that's how she was directed, that's how it was orchestrated) and to achieve her goal she used the simplest means at her disposal. Perhaps if there had been time to think she would have done things differently. Later she discovers that these simple means-sex-gives her power-or at least a sense of power over men. A contract for I bet millions of dollars depends on her spreading her legs in front of one of the contractors. Hutch claims they couldn't convince him, Chris “sells her out” because that's the only way he sees to resolve the situation. This may give her the impression of power - whether this is true, well... she eventually learns that they are telling her what she wants to hear.
 
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Let's talk about the game — about the story, about possible directions for development — and not constantly about the fact that Vi is... and why that is. That mostly says something about you.



Sequence of events led to the situation she found herself in. She reacted as expected (because that's how she was directed, that's how it was orchestrated) and to achieve her goal she used the simplest means at her disposal. Perhaps if there had been time to think she would have done things differently. Later she discovers that these simple means-sex-gives her power-or at least a sense of power over men. A contract for I bet millions of dollars depends on her spreading her legs in front of one of the contractors. Hutch claims they couldn't convince him, Chris “sells her out” because that's the only way he sees to resolve the situation. This may give her the impression of power - whether this is true, well... she eventually learns that they are telling her what she wants to hear.
Or Chris convinces Hutch to sell her out but I agree on what you are saying.
 
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Let's talk about the game — about the story, about possible directions for development — and not constantly about the fact that Vi is... and why that is. That mostly says something about you.



Sequence of events led to the situation she found herself in. She reacted as expected (because that's how she was directed, that's how it was orchestrated) and to achieve her goal she used the simplest means at her disposal. Perhaps if there had been time to think she would have done things differently. Later she discovers that these simple means-sex-gives her power-or at least a sense of power over men. A contract for I bet millions of dollars depends on her spreading her legs in front of one of the contractors. Hutch claims they couldn't convince him, Chris “sells her out” because that's the only way he sees to resolve the situation. This may give her the impression of power - whether this is true, well... she eventually learns that they are telling her what she wants to hear.
I think a lot of guys here are jealous of Vivian. I mean it's easy to be a woman because you just need to "spread legs". Who are kidding? A lot of those shitting on Vivian would easily sell their assholes for millions of dollars.
 

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I think a lot of guys here are jealous of Vivian. I mean it's easy to be a woman because you just need to "spread legs". Who are kidding? A lot of those shitting on Vivian would easily sell their assholes for millions of dollars.
Can't argue with that :ROFLMAO: not about the jealous part.
 
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Luc77

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Or Chris convinces Hutch to sell her out but I agree on what you are saying.
This cannot be completely ruled out, but from Hutch's reaction it appears that this was not discussed. Let's stick to what is for sure and look for intrepretation to that - not the other way around.
It was CHris who single-handedly made the decision to sell Vi. Again giving her some semblance of her own decision. Of course, if Vi had a firm moral spine, forged in the fires of religion, she wouldn't have done it. Then there would be no story either.
 

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This cannot be completely ruled out, but from Hutch's reaction it appears that this was not discussed. Let's stick to what is for sure and look for intrepretation to that - not the other way around.
It was CHris who single-handedly made the decision to sell Vi. Again giving her some semblance of her own decision. Of course, if Vi had a firm moral spine, forged in the fires of religion, she wouldn't have done it. Then there would be no story either.
true but Hutch his reaction in the car and getting a lot of money makes it possible and like Geigi said.
A lot of those shitting on Vivian would easily sell their assholes for millions of dollars.
 
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Interesting aspects for the future - will the Sunshine&Rain line and Chris' line be separate threads, or do they know each other in a small city after all ? Perhaps it's all one big game - hence the scrolling background characters. Maybe from the beginning the Group Holding Power - in this character Chris, decided to play “god” - or even better , “bet” . "See how I deprave a solid family. Within a month I'll turn a faithful wife into the first whore in town, and her husband will drive her to clients and clean her holes" * . THAT would explain some, however, strange “background” events (repeated observers, cars). This is one of the concepts that (similar) even I think someone threw in at the very beginning of the forum discussions. At this point Sunshine would be the second player. Which would, in turn, explain the somewhat background character of Rain, who looks more like a bull rather than Rebecca's partner (first impression)

*like a movie Game (Fincher)
 

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Interesting aspects for the future - will the Sunshine&Rain line and Chris' line be separate threads, or do they know each other in a small city after all ? Perhaps it's all one big game - hence the scrolling background characters. Maybe from the beginning the Group Holding Power - in this character Chris, decided to play “god” - or even better , “bet” . "See how I deprave a solid family. Within a month I'll turn a faithful wife into the first whore in town, and her husband will drive her to clients and clean her holes" * . THAT would explain some, however, strange “background” events (repeated observers, cars). This is one of the concepts that (similar) even I think someone threw in at the very beginning of the forum discussions. At this point Sunshine would be the second player. Which would, in turn, explain the somewhat background character of Rain, who looks more like a bull rather than Rebecca's partner (first impression)

*like a movie Game (Fincher)
seems far fetched to me but he lost. The husband didn't clean her holes...
 

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I'm not a fan of such a scenario either - but it can't be ruled out.

It doesn't clear yet. Month. ;)
And just like in The Game, a well-crafted scenario would sprinkle when players started playing out of the box. Here I am already running well beyond “we know what is”. - but in that case Marcel could be the person who reveals to Vi that in fact everything is gameplay (Cigarette SMoking Boy).
 
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