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if we use the funeral motif - which, however, as the deva action indicates, is strongly legitimate, then we are dealing with Vi's funeral.
Do you mean this render someone found in archive in chap1 ? Didn't dev say it was an old render of a previous work, and it was not part of this story ? Or I am mistaken ? :unsure:
 
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Do you mean this render someone found in archive in chap1 ? Didn't dev say it was an old render of a previous work, and it was not part of this story ? Or I am mistaken ? :unsure:
The render you refer to was nothing to do with this game, you are correct. It was a leftover from a different game and the dev just copied over folders instead of starting everything fresh.
 
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Dude, she lies all the time especially to her husband, I don’t believe anything she says
She's lied to Hutch - well, mostly she's omitted the truth (lie by omission), but there have been some definite lies as well
Lie by omission, yeah I get that but it still is a lie and the VN shows she is doing this in simple questions to him also;
simple lie -2.jpg simple lie -3.jpg

Another thing is some people think when she says "It's been 2 days I miss him already" meant she talking about Hutch but it's really Christian she misses she misses Christian.jpg

And also when she was trying to fix things with Hutch she actually hoped Christian would be more upset about her breaking up with him or tried to take her back she wants him to care.jpg and she took out this frustration on Hutch even-before-1.jpg even-before-2.jpg and how come Hutch would believe she loves him if her attitude is dismissive (she dismissed him when he tried to change dress) and rude like this.
The one time she actually was little bit honest (not fully) not fully honest.jpg he let her hold his hand and believed her (shook head about starting new) he believed her-1.jpg

But then again she treat him like shit rough-1.jpg and leaves him without explaining which was supposed to be their date which she suggested first place rough-2.jpg so yeah Vivian may think she loves him but her actions doesn't seem loving to Hutch in any sense. Also I think Christian told Hutch that she would prioritize his command over him or the date would be a bust he had a bet or other thing-1.jpg or maybe he thought at that moment "finally she is coming into her senses" (poor Hutch)

Also I think throughout the ch2 one thing is established pretty much which is her words toward Hutch is just words, there is no depth or feeling behind it
action suggest otherwise about missing hubby.jpg yeah I believe you Vivian, after wearing his t-shirt for whole day she misses Christian.jpg went to club to confirm your feelings for Christian, told a complete stranger that you miss him and prepared anal for him by giving it to a complete stranger which your husband was asking for 22 years and when you thought that you're done with Christian didn't think about giving it to Hutch.

Also I think why people talk less about Christian is there is nothing much to talk about. He is the established villain, a truly evil person worst scumbag on the earth. If it was ever hinted that he was doing this to the couple other than getting off humiliating the couple then maybe there could a discussion. Otherwise he is the typical boring villain we all agree with.
 

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Lie by omission, yeah I get that but it still is a lie and the VN shows she is doing this in simple questions to him also;
View attachment 4955477 View attachment 4955480

Another thing is some people think when she says "It's been 2 days I miss him already" meant she talking about Hutch but it's really Christian she misses View attachment 4955486

And also when she was trying to fix things with Hutch she actually hoped Christian would be more upset about her breaking up with him or tried to take her back View attachment 4955494 and she took out this frustration on Hutch View attachment 4955496 View attachment 4955495 and how come Hutch would believe she loves him if her attitude is dismissive (she dismissed him when he tried to change dress) and rude like this.
The one time she actually was little bit honest (not fully) View attachment 4955507 he let her hold his hand and believed her (shook head about starting new) View attachment 4955515

But then again she treat him like shit View attachment 4955516 and leaves him without explaining which was supposed to be their date which she suggested first place View attachment 4955521 so yeah Vivian may think she loves him but her actions doesn't seem loving to Hutch in any sense. Also I think Christian told Hutch that she would prioritize his command over him or the date would be a bust View attachment 4955533 or maybe he thought at that moment "finally she is coming into her senses" (poor Hutch)

Also I think throughout the ch2 one thing is established pretty much which is her words toward Hutch is just words, there is no depth or feeling behind it
View attachment 4955536 yeah I believe you Vivian, after wearing his t-shirt for whole day View attachment 4955486 went to club to confirm your feelings for Christian, told a complete stranger that you miss him and prepared anal for him by giving it to a complete stranger which your husband was asking for 22 years and when you thought that you're done with Christian didn't think about giving it to Hutch.
Yeah, it's pretty simple in my eyes. The hoe is solely, in love with Christian. It's so obvious honestly, she doesn't give a fuck about Hutch anymore...:cautious: She's just pretending to, so she doesn't feel like such a cheating bitch...which she is...:ROFLMAO:

Also I think why people talk less about Christian is there is nothing much to talk about. He is the established villain, a truly evil person worst scumbag on the earth. If it was ever hinted that he was doing this to the couple other than getting off humiliating the couple then maybe there could a discussion. Otherwise he is the typical boring villain we all agree with.
Spot on honestly, nothing much to say about him. He's a fucking sadistic prick, and overall, awful Cunt of a human being... And Vivian is falling for it. Which is rather annoying to see, but I guess I gave her too much credit. Nothing else to really say about him :ROFLMAO:
 

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maybe yes, maybe no...
About that cemetery picture one of you found: No, it is not part of this story, sorry. I was part of a long ago project that never went anyway. I just recycled the game folder because of some mods already built into the code and just never deleted those pictures.
(Quote above edited just to take it out of the spoiler, since it's no longer necessary, and makes it less obvious what I'm pointing out.
 

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She's just pretending to, so she doesn't feel like such a cheating bitch
Yeah totally agree. I mean as reader/viewer it's interesting to see her struggle but to say name calling her means people are mistreating her cause nobody is understanding her feelings!! I mean if a serial killer says he was feeling guilty after each time he killed someone he should be pardoned right? And as a simple person, I call someone a Thief when I see him stealing something. So yeah she is a cheater and slut and now at-least an escort.
 
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Lie by omission, yeah I get that but it still is a lie and the VN shows she is doing this in simple questions to him also;
View attachment 4955477 View attachment 4955480

Another thing is some people think when she says "It's been 2 days I miss him already" meant she talking about Hutch but it's really Christian she misses View attachment 4955486

And also when she was trying to fix things with Hutch she actually hoped Christian would be more upset about her breaking up with him or tried to take her back View attachment 4955494 and she took out this frustration on Hutch View attachment 4955496 View attachment 4955495 and how come Hutch would believe she loves him if her attitude is dismissive (she dismissed him when he tried to change dress) and rude like this.
The one time she actually was little bit honest (not fully) View attachment 4955507 he let her hold his hand and believed her (shook head about starting new) View attachment 4955515

But then again she treat him like shit View attachment 4955516 and leaves him without explaining which was supposed to be their date which she suggested first place View attachment 4955521 so yeah Vivian may think she loves him but her actions doesn't seem loving to Hutch in any sense. Also I think Christian told Hutch that she would prioritize his command over him or the date would be a bust View attachment 4955533 or maybe he thought at that moment "finally she is coming into her senses" (poor Hutch)

Also I think throughout the ch2 one thing is established pretty much which is her words toward Hutch is just words, there is no depth or feeling behind it
View attachment 4955536 yeah I believe you Vivian, after wearing his t-shirt for whole day View attachment 4955486 went to club to confirm your feelings for Christian, told a complete stranger that you miss him and prepared anal for him by giving it to a complete stranger which your husband was asking for 22 years and when you thought that you're done with Christian didn't think about giving it to Hutch.

Also I think why people talk less about Christian is there is nothing much to talk about. He is the established villain, a truly evil person worst scumbag on the earth. If it was ever hinted that he was doing this to the couple other than getting off humiliating the couple then maybe there could a discussion. Otherwise he is the typical boring villain we all agree with.
I don't agree on the evil part. He is just using the assets he has at his disposal to earn money and have a little fun too. She thinks she loves him. He will dump her when he has no need for her anymore.
 

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I don't agree on the evil part. He is just using the assets he has at his disposal to earn money and have a little fun too. She thinks she loves him. He will dump her when he has no need for her anymore.
Well I will disagree. I like Christian as antagonist, but he is undoubtly evil. He wants to humiliate Vivian, to break her completely, to whore her out, to send her being raped. And why ? Because he loves it. Pretty evil to me. He is a true villain, not nuanced at all.
 

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Yeah totally agree. I mean as reader/viewer it's interesting to see her struggle but to say name calling her means people are mistreating her cause nobody is understanding her feelings!! I mean if a serial killer says he was feeling guilty after each time he killed someone he should be pardoned right? And as a simple person, I call someone a Thief when I see him stealing something. So yeah she is a cheater and slut and now at-least an escort.
I think that the people here, that get upset when you call her a hoe/slut/whore/whatever and just wanna call you an "incel" for stating it. Are just missing the point. She's M A R R I E D. She's not some single free woman living it up. SHE'S MARRIED...

Believe it or not, but when you're married, generally speaking here. I'm pretty sure it is considered "whorelike!" behaviour if you then just start going around cheating on your partner, because you had a "sexual awakening" Now if she was single and was doing all this. I think most people wouldn't give a fuck, sure some would still call her promiscuous or whatever. But I wouldn't be one of em. She's single, go and do what you want lady!

But again, married. So she's a cheating whore...It's simple, well to me at least. :ROFLMAO:

I don't agree on the evil part. He is just using the assets he has at his disposal to earn money and have a little fun too. She thinks she loves him. He will dump her when he has no need for her anymore.
Idk bro...But I think if your idea of "having a little fun" is to break marriages apart, by seducing wives, and then getting them to fall in love with you, before dropping them when it's all done. You're quite a sadistic, evil piece of shit...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Well I will disagree. I like Christian as antagonist, but he is undoubtly evil. He wants to humiliate Vivian, to break her completely, to whore her out, to send her being raped. And why ? Because he loves it. Pretty evil to me. He is a true villain, not nuanced at all.
Because he can. Because she lets him. She's an enabler, whether she knows it or not, so it becomes kind of a vicious circle between the two of them.
 

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Idk bro...But I think if your idea of "having a little fun" is to break marriages apart, by seducing wives, and then getting them to fall in love with you, before dropping them when it's all done. You're quite a sadistic, evil piece of shit...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
lol. I was just thinking about him sleeping with a beautiful woman when she throws herself at him. Like the girl in his bed when he is texting Viv and Viv herself too of course. He knows what to say and do so that she does everything she needs him to do. If it wouldn't have been him she would have done it sooner or later with somebody else. The one destroying the marriage is Vivian.
 

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Because he can. Because she lets him. She's an enabler, whether she knows it or not, so it becomes kind of a vicious circle between the two of them.
Yes I am totally on board with that. Vivian was clearly an easy prey. He messed up with her mind in no time, and she let him do it. But he is an evil manipulator, an abuser. I repeat I like him as antagonist, but he is villain because he can be. No other reason.
 

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Well I will disagree. I like Christian as antagonist, but he is undoubtly evil. He wants to humiliate Vivian, to break her completely, to whore her out, to send her being raped. And why ? Because he loves it. Pretty evil to me. He is a true villain, not nuanced at all.
well it is evil but the reason isn't that he loves it. He just wants to earn money.
 

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well it is evil but the reason isn't that he loves it. He just wants to earn money.
To be honest, I don't think money has anything to do with his decision, it's just an easy tool to make it happen. He wants Vivian, he says he owns her, and others can do whatever they want to her if he gives them his permission to do so because she is his property.
 

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will have to replay CH1 then
Maybe not his favourite game, but he said to Vivian in the kitchen that he did it several times in the past.

Edit : I must add that we have no proof of that, just that he said it to Vivian. Is it the truth, or just a way to shock her, to arouse her maybe... to mess with her mind ?
 
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He knows what to say and do so that she does everything she needs him to do.
Yes, that is called being a manipulator...AKA being an evil cunt...:ROFLMAO:

If it wouldn't have been him she would have done it sooner or later with somebody else. The one destroying the marriage is Vivian.
She's definitely the main reason the marriage is failing for sure at this point, But he was the driving force and the instigator FOR SURE. She's just a dumb hoe who was mentally weak, and Christian is good at manipulating married women. So that's how it started, His Bullshit. If he just acted like a normal human being, and didn't pull his janky ass shit, nothing would have happened and Vivian wouldn't have cheated.

He's an evil POS shit dude... :LOL: IDK why you wanna believe he's not, so much. :ROFLMAO:
 
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