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But after all, SC said that at one point he started changing the script to better fit expectations - but (from what I understand) he came to his senses and is writing the kind of story he intended from the beginning. Of course that in some minor issues he can make a bow to the audience (such as nails :) ) .
He didn't say he started changing the script to better fit expectations, just that he "nearly altered the course of the story" as below (I'll include the full quoted post as newer players may not have seen this and it touches on a couple of other things, including that no, the full original backyard scene won't be seen):
Early on after the release of MHB, I fell into the trap of wanting to appease everyone. I made some posts, engaged in some ways I shouldn't have, and nearly altered the course of the story (such as adding/removing scenes, or creating a new ending). Some of my words my have been misleading, confusing, or outright false. I've regained my senses, reminded myself this is for myself first, and you guys are invited spectators that are free to jump off the train if it's not going where you want to go.

Is there a main character and who is it? Vivian the center of the story for sure. Everything essentially revolves around her and creates the scenarios the others respond to. But I don't thinks she's really all that interesting, to be honest. Her motivates, while leading to sexy adventures, are not that complicated. To say that Hutch is more interesting (but maybe not the main character), might be a better way to describe him. Vivian gets her inner monologue as a short cut. Some things are to complicated to express in still renders or would require more extensive blocks of dialogue that would turn off the viewer. While I don't 'identify myself as the main male protagonist' in these games, as a guy I still empathize with them. I guess my goal is to have the viewer (nearly all men) to have some connection to him. I don't want to give him an inner monologue because I hope that the reader will do that for themselves. To deduce his mindset from his actions/reactions. Or to just let it be a mystery. I'm not educated in story telling. Maybe this is a flawed idea.


I think the reader can ask that for themselves as well. Ultimately this story becomes yours when you watch it. You decide who the story is about. Some may empathize with Hutch. Some just want Vivian to be the town bicycle.

Yes, I think some people will jump off the train as the story progresses and the character arcs become set. I wish I could release v0.4 and v0.6 together as I think they balance each other out (vivian vs. hutch). But I won't do that to you guys. I will warn the newer participants here that v0.4 is focused on Vivian and v0.6 is focused on Hutch. Wasn't planned that way, just is.

Yes, I think the ending will divide the remaining viewers. But I hope with each scene, from simple text exchange to raunchy sex, the viewer understands why it is happening based on the character's personality. A one paragraph discription of MHB might make someone beleive it's just another cookie cutter NTR story, but I believe with each release you will say to yourself "Damn! I didn't see that coming" but also see that it fits the story. And that includes the ending.

Yes, the last teaser is from v0.4.

No, the original backyard/bedroom scene will not be extensively shown. Again, early on I was trying to appease people but showing it was not part of the original plan. It is addressed in a couple way in the next two releases but it won't be a fully rendered, retelling from Vivian's or Chris' POV. It needed to happen to establish the rest of the story. It happened quickly in order to get to the rest of the story.

I'll do a progress update at the first of the month. Thanks.
It should also be noted, again for the benefit of those newer to the thread, that back when the first release came out (I think it was about a week later), the dev confirmed:
"The entire story is plotted out, including the ending, it's just a matter of rendering it out."
And another, related quote:
"While the script is written, mostly, I do make changes here and there. And a subtle change now can have a bigger impact down the line requiring bigger rewrites."
I will leave it without public comment
In other words, there is no reason and you're just stirring, for some reason.
 

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I think he is too good at it for it to be his first time. It is clear he has had some practice. Dirtbags like him usually have a track record. The dinner he had with both Hutch and Vivian was a test. He was making sure his instincts about them were correct.
Totally agree. I'm certain that he has already made it in the past, maybe even worse... He seems to be too talented and too experienced in these kind of things. I just wanted to point that there are some statements in the story that we don't have any proof of, just what the characters say. And some of them (Vi and Christian) and not very faithful to the truth :LOL:.
About the first dinner, yes of course it's a double test. For Vivian to see if she will dare to come. For Hutch to see if he has any kind of "control" over his wife. And for Christian it was "bingo !".
 
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He didn't say he started changing the script to better fit expectations, just that he "nearly altered the course of the story" as below (I'll include the full quoted post as newer players may not have seen this and it touches on a couple of other things, including that no, the full original backyard scene won't be seen):


It should also be noted, again for the benefit of those newer to the thread, that back when the first release came out (I think it was about a week later), the dev confirmed: And another, related quote:


In other words, there is no reason and you're just stirring, for some reason.
A lot of Devs fall into a trap to appease everyone. Some succeed, some fail either due to pressure of releasing updates fast, include 1000 different scenarios/kinks or getting negative comments. It's unfortunate how many people don't care when a dev wants to tell a story, they just want porn.
 

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In other words, there is no reason and you're just stirring, for some reason.
after all, this picture is the answer - whose legs are in the picture Funeral, by the way, this one is also called Funeral. In February-March, we pondered this problem

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Here we have the answer - confirmed Hutch but the other legs rather belong to Sunshine in ver 1.0 - in the 2nd part of MHB appeared to us Sunshine ver 2.0.

What can be said, you can accept this explanation or not.

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We are left to enjoy the graphics


Whether this is related to MHB or to the second game - we will leave to judge.... having regard to the words of SCS that MHB had a contrived beginning and end, and in the game you mention he says (unreleased - a few screenshots from it showed) that he has no complete idea of the end of the story. I would say that “Funeral” are the closing scenes of a project.... Puzzling is your approach to this issue - again, you know something more ?:)
 
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Pretty sure in Vivian's mind he will become less of a man in the next chapters cause in Ch1 we see that she don't hear his reasons and accept his opinion in any regard, the persons (Christian, Sunshine, Resse) she hears from all say he is a cuck or beta. She also says he clearly needed to do something about the situation (clear indication of Christian's manipulation) and tried to put the blame on him cause she was ready to quit (I don't think so) and grovel at his feet but it was HIM who opened up the relationship is now the cause she had to come to bar :rolleyes:
Still no shortage of people who love to hate wife. Sure, they admit, boss is putrid, but there is no fun in posting pages of his nastiness.
 

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Still no shortage of people who love to hate wife. Sure, they admit, boss is putrid, but there is no fun in posting pages of his nastiness.
Well that's because Vivian is an MC, whom we're spending a lot of time with, looking through her eyes, reading her thoughts, seeing her interactions etc etc. while Christian is nothing really. He's just a generic villain we see sometimes. Not really suprising that the person we're spending most of the time with, is the one getting more criticism/hate as we have a lot more stuff of hers to go from.

Idk why this is so hard for some people to understand. In any form of media, Movies/Books/TV Shows. It's much easier to notice when the MC is a POS, and so therefore, people are gonna talk about it more. Rather than when the Villain is, because that's just expected and whatever.
 

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I'm a little lost here... You are able to confirm it's Hutch on the 2 pictures you posted ?:unsure:
All I can see is men's trousers, and a bit of hair...

Well, there is no certainty, but it fits, hair, posture, even height (Rebbeca is a little lower than Vi), and shoes ;). A few months ago, we wondered if a woman's legs were Addison's legs or not. Either way - it's certainly more interesting than debating whether Vi is a slut, whether she was a slut, whether she's going to be a slut, and whether it's in her genes or in her head, whether she provoked it or just reacted, and on and on - and rearranging the subject for the hundredth time....


Of course, it could also be that this is a screen shot from the first (unreleased) when SCS - but at this point the explanation falls - that he had no idea of the end. Rather, it fits the words about MHB - that he had a “ready idea” for the ending and beginning. All under the judgment of the audience.


there are a few more background threads that seem to have some relevance - and this has not been addressed. E.g. the letters - I have no idea if they have any relevance to the plot, but it's interesting. Unopened, airborne, have heavily scribbled envelopes (addressee not found ? ) - just such a curiosity, perhaps completely without future.... Or an actual mystery.
 
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Well, there is no certainty, but it fits, hair, posture, even height (Rebbeca is a little lower than Vi), and shoes ;). A few months ago, we wondered if a woman's legs were Addison's legs or not. Either way - it's certainly more interesting than debating whether Vi is a slut, whether she was a slut, whether she's going to be a slut, and whether it's in her genes or in her head, whether she provoked it or just reacted, and on and on - and rearranging the subject for the hundredth time....
Rationality. Thanks so much.

there are a few more background threads that seem to have some relevance - and this has not been addressed. E.g. the letters - I have no idea if they have any relevance to the plot, but it's interesting. Unopened, airborne, have heavily scribbled envelopes (addressee not found ? ) - just such a curiosity, perhaps completely without future.... Or an actual mystery.
That's interesting.
 

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after all, this picture is the answer - whose legs are in the picture Funeral, by the way, this one is also called Funeral. In February-March, we pondered this problem

View attachment 4958048

Here we have the answer - confirmed Hutch but the other legs rather belong to Sunshine in ver 1.0 - in the 2nd part of MHB appeared to us Sunshine ver 2.0.





Whether this is related to MHB or to the second game - we will leave to judge.... having regard to the words of SCS that MHB had a contrived beginning and end, and in the game you mention he says (unreleased - a few screenshots from it showed) that he has no complete idea of the end of the story. I would say that “Funeral” are the closing scenes of a project.... Puzzling is your approach to this issue - again, you know something more ?:)
If that is Sunshine and Hutch in the picture, that makes for a lot of interesting theories. I think I like that ending though; at least what I think it would mean.
 

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If that is Sunshine and Hutch in the picture, that makes for a lot of interesting theories. I think I like that ending though; at least what I think it would mean.
According to what the dev said, I'd rather think that he recycles the model of his non published story to create Sunshine's character. Seems more plausible to me.
I don't think this picture belongs to this story.
 
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in life in marriage i believe its all about free will. you do what the heart tells you to do. when hutch asked "oh your still going to that ... meeting" he was hoping she would make the choice to stay home with him.. hutch is giving vivian all the rope she wants to hang herself. through the whole VN vivian constantly tries to justify what she does as it is hutch wanting her to do it.. she is manipulating herself into believing hutch wants this.. when the realization that hutch wanted none of this i can see vivian possibly committing suicide for the guilt she feels.. vivian is in the beginning of a spiral. when the realization of what she has become hits her it will be devasting to her and she wont recover..
 
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Still no shortage of people who love to hate wife. Sure, they admit, boss is putrid, but there is no fun in posting pages of his nastiness.
Ok lets talk about Christian. He is secretly gay and had a crush on Hutch for a long time. He is actually a loving cute romantic guy but doing evil shit cause he wanted to show Hutch how much of a slut Vivian is so he would change side and acknowledge his love and they can run away in sunset. .... Damn even that scenario still made Vivian a slut, oops.
 

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in life in marriage i believe its all about free will. you do what the heart tells you to do. when hutch asked "oh your still going to that ... meeting" he was hoping she would make the choice to stay home with him.. hutch is giving vivian all the rope she wants to hang herself. through the whole VN vivian constantly tries to justify what she does as it is hutch wanting her to do it.. she is manipulating herself into believing hutch wants this.. when the realization that hutch wanted none of this i can see vivian possibly committing suicide for the guilt she feels.. vivian is in the beginning of a spiral. when the realization of what she has become hits her it will be devasting to her and she wont recover..
He clearly didn't expect her to say yes
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after all, this picture is the answer - whose legs are in the picture Funeral, by the way, this one is also called Funeral. In February-March, we pondered this problem

Here we have the answer - confirmed Hutch but the other legs rather belong to Sunshine in ver 1.0 - in the 2nd part of MHB appeared to us Sunshine ver 2.0.

Whether this is related to MHB or to the second game - we will leave to judge.... having regard to the words of SCS that MHB had a contrived beginning and end, and in the game you mention he says (unreleased - a few screenshots from it showed) that he has no complete idea of the end of the story. I would say that “Funeral” are the closing scenes of a project.... Puzzling is your approach to this issue - again, you know something more ?:)
Well, there is no certainty, but it fits, hair, posture, even height (Rebbeca is a little lower than Vi), and shoes ;). A few months ago, we wondered if a woman's legs were Addison's legs or not. Either way - it's certainly more interesting than debating whether Vi is a slut, whether she was a slut, whether she's going to be a slut, and whether it's in her genes or in her head, whether she provoked it or just reacted, and on and on - and rearranging the subject for the hundredth time....

Of course, it could also be that this is a screen shot from the first (unreleased) when SCS - but at this point the explanation falls - that he had no idea of the end. Rather, it fits the words about MHB - that he had a “ready idea” for the ending and beginning. All under the judgment of the audience.

there are a few more background threads that seem to have some relevance - and this has not been addressed. E.g. the letters - I have no idea if they have any relevance to the plot, but it's interesting. Unopened, airborne, have heavily scribbled envelopes (addressee not found ? ) - just such a curiosity, perhaps completely without future.... Or an actual mystery.
So we're back to making some assumptions, then claiming those assumptions as confirmed fact despite nothing to support that. And to top it off, we're now going beyond that by wrapping that all up together and giving it more weight than the explicit words of the dev when he said the "Funeral" title picture was left over from another game when he copied the game folders across rather than creating them from scratch...
(And I'll note that in the first of your posts you go with "confirmed" and then when questioned on it, it's "well, there's no certainty"...)

And by these mysterious letters floating about, do you mean these?
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If so, the simplest answer is that they are existing Daz assets, no mystery behind them.

I'm not sure what you mean by "no idea of the end" or "ready idea of the end and beginning" if you're trying to equate that to MHB. Again, in the dev's own words:
"The entire story is plotted out, including the ending, it's just a matter of rendering it out."
and
"While the script is written, mostly, I do make changes here and there. And a subtle change now can have a bigger impact down the line requiring bigger rewrites."
 
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